How many Turbo 4 Cobras with an Automatic were built in 1980?
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How many Turbo 4 Cobras with an Automatic were built in 1980?
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Last edited by xctasy; 06-19-2017 at 09:21 PM.
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Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
Mick will chime in, he's done a huge amount of recoding 5 speed transmission and C3 auto transmission and engine options.
There was a non T5 5speed transmission option from 1980 to 1983 for the 2.3 and 2.3 T, the Tremec T140.
Canadian cars were Cobra Turbo's with carbs for the years (81, 82, 83) after the US option was withdrawn in the 1981 model year US cars
Even the lame 3.3 was a Cobra option....19.5 second quarter mile car that wouldn't even do 95 mph.
A 132 hp turbo 2.3 Auto would have run away and hid from that killer 85 hp Cobra beast....
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X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
Good info,it's good to still learn a thing or two.
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84Gt (9W) T-top 347EFI
http://www.foureyedpride.com/content...984-Mustang-GT
84Gt(1E)Hardtop Turbo
http://www.foureyedpride.com/content...e-of-the-Month
I have five so far in the database and registry. Don't know total made.
Turbo/auto was available in 1980 only.
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I found one. Will post pics.
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No telling what that really is without the door and buck tags. There are so many things "wrong" with it if it's an actual 1980 Cobra.
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Interesting....looking forward to some more information on this one.
88 Turbo Coupe auto
88 Turbo Coupe 5spd
79 Fairmont Futura 4.6
79 Capri RS - 2.3/5spd restomod
80 Capri 5.0/5spd project
79 Zephyr Z7 factory 5.0 sunroof
79 Pace Car 5.0/5spd project
85 LTD LX factory 5spd?(not documented)
86 GT conv 5.0/5spd
79 Pace Car 2.3/4spd - needs new home
Heres door tag. Some one please decode if possible.
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88 Turbo Coupe auto
88 Turbo Coupe 5spd
79 Fairmont Futura 4.6
79 Capri RS - 2.3/5spd restomod
80 Capri 5.0/5spd project
79 Zephyr Z7 factory 5.0 sunroof
79 Pace Car 5.0/5spd project
85 LTD LX factory 5spd?(not documented)
86 GT conv 5.0/5spd
79 Pace Car 2.3/4spd - needs new home
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VIN
0 = 1980 model year
F = Dearborn Assembly
03 = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
D = 4.2L V8 engine
129873 = 29,873rd 1980 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly
Door Tag
Date - 09/79 = September 1979 scheduled build
GVWR - 3943 lb/1788 kg = gross vehicle weight rating
Front GAWR - 2128 lb/965 kg = front gross axle weight rating
Rear GAWR - 1835 lb/832 kg = rear gross axle weight rating
F0113 = 113 lbs front accessory reserve load
R0068 = 68 lbs rear accessory reserve load
Exterior Paint Colors - 1C 1C = tu-tone paint: Black upper (enamel) and Black lower (flat)
DSO - 21 = Atlanta district sales office
Body - 61R = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
Int Trim - CA = vinyl seating, low-back front buckets (C), Black interior trim color (A)
A/C - A = manual air conditioner
R - [blank] = no radio?
S - 0 = no sunroof
Ax - G = 2.26:1 axle ratio, non-locking differential
Tr - W = C4 automatic transmission
55 = front springs
LL = rear springs
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here it is guys. Wiuldnt load last night.
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You new ride prospect is esentially as basic "standard" V8 Cobra enchilada, with D code engine, G code 2.26 axle and W code trans....C4
All Cobra Turbo 2.3's are A code, T option engines, with F code 3.45 axle and V code trans...C3.
They have to have a T option on the buck code. The turbo and non turbo 2.3's are always A code for 1980, the kicker is the buck code "T" option.
and this
The carb turbo auto was also a Fairmont and Zephyr option for 1980, but unless the car is
A code engine,
T option buck code,
with F code 3.45 axle and V code trans...C3.
Then its not an auto turbo carb 1980.
Last edited by xctasy; 06-22-2017 at 05:22 PM.
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ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
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Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
confirmed 1979-81 Cobra engine/trans combos...
1979
F/5 (5.0L/Tremec SROD 4-sp manual overdrive)
F/W (5.0L/Ford C4 automatic)
W/6 (2.3T/Borg Warner SR-4 4-sp manual)
1980
A¹/6 (2.3T/Borg Warner SR-4 4-sp manual)
A¹/V (2.3T/Ford C3 automatic)
D/W (4.2L/Ford C4 automatic)
1981
A/5 (2.3L/Tremec 140VS 5-sp manual overdrive)
B/4 (3.3L/Tremec SROD 4-sp manual overdrive)
B/6 (3.3L/Borg Warner SR-4 4-sp manual)
B/W (3.3L/Ford C4 automatic)
D/W (4.2L/Ford C4 automatic)
T/5 (2.3T/Tremec 140VS 5-sp manual overdrive)
other possible but unconfirmed combos...
1979: W/5 (2.3T/Tremec SROD 4-sp manual overdrive)
1980: A¹/5 (2.3T/Tremec 140VS 5-sp manual overdrive) (late model year availability)
1981: A/6 (2.3L/Borg Warner SR-4 4-sp manual)
1981: T/6 (2.3T/Borg Warner SR-4 4-sp manual)
¹ A in VIN, T on buck tag
Last edited by FoxChassis; 06-23-2017 at 01:20 PM.
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Hello, I'm a new member here. My farther worked at Ford and got company cars. We ordered a 1980 black cobra V4 turbo mustang with green stripes and a automatic transmission. Usually we would get a new car in December, but we did not get this car until spring. My farther sad that he thought that Ford had a hard time passing emissions with this car. We also ordered a 1981 Capri black magic T-Top car.
The issue wasn't compliance, it was most likely warranty price tradeoff that Ford decided to control by supply.
Deciding how to meet USA state and market needs, that was what Ford always did best. The 1980 to 1981 era had the awful CAFE corporate average MPG downgrade on 4.2 engines (1.5 MPG better at 55 mph).
The discussion on 1980 emissions compliance I've heard from two other sources here.
Based on what I've read, Ford had warranty issues, and just adding a primary light off catalyst to 1980 Turbos and the V code C3 automatic option would have conclusively answered the emissions problems, but Ford were more worried about warranty costs.
Consumer Guide listed all the persistant warranty issues existed with the 1979 Vin A & Buck T engine option...
Even though the car had strong forged conrods, the turbo ones broke,
Even though the car had strong forged pistons that carried high compression when pump gas was penut oil 87 octane, it still made it detonation prone when hot under boost.
Exhaust manifolds that cracked on all 2.3's became a real problem with the 2.3,
Then the turbo housings that forced the alloy intake manifolds to crack under clocking loads, that was expensive.
and all of them consumed a lot of dealer time which was always claimed back to Ford.
Emissions wise, Ford was already under the microscope from the EPA over the engine options to meet each states varrying emissions laws, it was looking like Stick Change manual gearbox options were going to be difficult for California and Hi Altitude areas, but for Ford, there were other issues.
Due compliants, the EPA was forcing Ford to shut down San Jose plant, and doing the same to Carter ACF.
Ford never underenginered the 2.3 Turbo, any car that cruised at 55 mph needing 2700 rpm was a strained, cold blooded engine that needed to be driven with conviction to get the most out of it. 85 mph, 4100 rpm.
Those axle ratios of 3.45 and a nasty wide ratio gearbox never made it as easy to drive as an SROD 5.0.
See this on gearing and think about how it might have influenced waranty claims
Last edited by xctasy; 01-22-2018 at 07:29 PM.
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4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
I have a 2.3T Cobra with a T3 auto, Still dont know how rare this is or its market value as the Foxes have no impacked down under.
I have only seen one 80 Cobra with an automatic. About seven years ago in the Scranton PA area. Was Blue on Blue. Thought it was cool. I think there pretty rare.
I have six known 2.3T/auto 1980 Cobras in the database and registry.
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As below, of the six Mic has documented, it lookes like TuxStang's Test DSO 89 1980 Cobra Mustang automatic has
an inertia cut out,
under passenger seat electric fuel pump wiring
internal tank fuel pump (like the Panther& Fox CFi EECIII 5.0 and Panther & Fox CFi and early HO EECIV 5.0 and the earlier 1983 model year on wards 2.3 EFi Turbo).
gr79 noted that its most likely scavange pumped
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4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
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