new used notch

KANARMAN · 03-28-2009, 08:23 PM

Ok I just bought my first notch. woo hoo
it is a 1985 roller black paint I was told it was a original T5 V8 car and would like to find out if that is correct.I also want to know if it was a squad only because it came with a few black rims and there are a few misc wires under hood and some taped onto rear lighting and there is no hitch on the car?
Any help is appreciated
thanks Don

wsharp227 · 03-28-2009, 08:58 PM

Hit me up on IM. I can help with your questions.

KANARMAN · 03-28-2009, 09:12 PM

I pmd you thanks

FoxChassis · 03-28-2009, 11:28 PM

Um....this message forum is here so questions and and answers and information can be posted in public. Doesn't do anybody else any good if questions and answers are done in private messages. Please try to use the forums for this stuff. Thanks.

The VIN will tell you the original engine.

The Body/Buck Tag (metal plate attached to radiator core support, behind driver-side headlamps) will tell you the engine and transmission. There should be an additional tag if the car is an SSP.

The Vehicle Certification Label ("door sticker/tag") will tell you the engine, transmission, and possibly if the car is an SSP.

KANARMAN · 03-29-2009, 01:01 PM

thanks FoxChassis we or should I say WSharp227 found that it is a 5.0 5 speed so far.
WSharp227 has been a great help.
The vin is 1FABP26M2FF124437 Iwont be able to get more info until friday or so I think the guy painted the dash and armrest gray but the door panels are gray also but not painted it has a 140 speedo? and the only seats I have are two blue that are in the car
and a pair of gray I wil try to get picts and keep the site posted with mods ect..
thanks..

FoxChassis · 03-29-2009, 01:48 PM

What info do you hve besides the VIN? The VIN does not indicate transmission type.

KANARMAN · 03-31-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis

What info do you hve besides the VIN? The VIN does not indicate transmission type.

Okhere we go
build date 11 84
gwvr4100lbs
front 1000
rear881kg
F0105
R0129
BODY 66B
INT FBA
AGQ
R-6
AX-M
TR 2BBA1A ?

That was the drivers door sticker?

FoxChassis · 03-31-2009, 05:29 PM

What about the codes for EXTERIOR COLORS and DSO?

DATE - 11/84 = November 1984 scheduled build date
EXTERIOR COLORS = ?
DSO = ?
BODY - 66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan
INT. TRIM - FBA = low-back cloth and vinyl bucket seats (F), Regatta Blue interior (BA)
A - GQ = unknown
R - 6 = AM/FM Electronic Search stereo radio with cassette
AX - M = 2.73:1 rear gearset with Traction-Lok differential
TR - 2 = T5 transmission
BB = E5SZ-5310-T front coil springs
AA = E5SZ-5560-A rear coil springs

KANARMAN · 03-31-2009, 09:10 PM

the paint is black it looks factory engine bay,trunk ,jambs ect are black.I was in a hurry-LAZY to remove tha fender wells.

KANARMAN · 03-31-2009, 09:25 PM

here it is

wsharp227 · 03-31-2009, 09:26 PM

Cool Car....

KANARMAN · 03-31-2009, 09:33 PM

thanks I am ganna ditch the starsky paint and go all black with the gt front clip and cowl hood from the hatch car and maybe some custom accents.

FoxChassis · 03-31-2009, 09:55 PM

The DSO looks like 41 but the EXTERIOR COLORS code is too hard too read from that pic.

The AC code also look like one letter(Q?), not two like you posted (GQ).

saleenjunky · 03-31-2009, 11:10 PM

I would recomend leaving the exterior as is and concentrate on getting it running.Once you get it running then save up and do the exterior.That way if for some reason you have to sell or if life gets in the way you didn't make a piece of crap or project out of the car like alot of people do.In my opinion the car is too nice to butcher up but its your car and my opinion means nothing.

KANARMAN · 04-01-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saleenjunky

I would recomend leaving the exterior as is and concentrate on getting it running.Once you get it running then save up and do the exterior.That way if for some reason you have to sell or if life gets in the way you didn't make a piece of crap or project out of the car like alot of people do.In my opinion the car is too nice to butcher up but its your car and my opinion means nothing.

I was planing on put all that I can from my 85 t top motor trans dash seats I have new carpet in my basment.The coupe/notch has a 8.8 with lower control arms and some new springs and shocks.The only reason Ihave to do this IS because I spun the car on the way home from work one day and ate the dividing wall with the pass side Quarter I have the complete rear half of a 1992 gt for that fix but that project might be to hard to tackle for me?The car has kenny brown T subframe connectors it apears the pass side hatch aera is pushed in 1/4 inch so im not sure? I love the t-top I have had it for atleast 10 years but I dont think the wife would like me to have two stangs a 2006 250 4door a focus and a buddies stang hanging around the house?
Now today a guy who is a big time ford man and big horsepower guy had his son who needs a chassy said he heard it was for sale and I almost puked.I am ganna try to figure out the best route to take?

KANARMAN · 06-13-2009, 04:46 PM

can you decode

mustang
124437 66B M 000
1CC DF ST
PS AC 02 HB S
WD MBW 01
EL-B 02 1 X 2

THERS IS A NUMBER 2 IMPRESSION BELOW PS
AND A IS ALSO A PUNCHED NUMBER 2 AFTER THE THIRD LINE READING

PS AC AC 02 (2) HB?

FoxChassis · 06-13-2009, 06:35 PM

What model year is this?

KANARMAN · 06-13-2009, 11:00 PM

sorry its the 1985 mustang coupe/notchback
5.0 5 speed I belive you ran the vin in a older post of mine.I will copy and paste it here.

KANARMAN · 06-13-2009, 11:04 PM

The vin is 1FABP26M2FF124437
DATE - 11/84 = November 1984 scheduled build date
EXTERIOR COLORS = ?
DSO = ?
BODY - 66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan
INT. TRIM - FBA = low-back cloth and vinyl bucket seats (F), Regatta Blue interior (BA)
A - GQ = unknown
R - 6 = AM/FM Electronic Search stereo radio with cassette
AX - M = 2.73:1 rear gearset with Traction-Lok differential
TR - 2 = T5 transmission
BB = E5SZ-5310-T front coil springs
AA = E5SZ-5560-A rear coil springs

FoxChassis · 06-13-2009, 11:36 PM

VIN
1FA = Ford, USA
B = manual seatbelts, no airbags
P = passenger car
26 = Mustang LX two-door sedan
M = 5.0L V-8 engine
2 = VIN check digit
F = 1985 model year
F = Dearborn Assembly
124437 = 24,437th 1985 Mustang asigned a VIN at Dearborn Assembly

Body/Buck Tag
MUSTANG = model line
124437 = 24,437th 1985 Mustang asigned a VIN at Dearborn Assembly
66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan
M = 5.0L V-8 engine
000_
1CC = Black exterior paint color
DF
ST
PS
AC = air conditioning
02
HB = rear defrost
S = cruise control
WD = power windows and locks
MBW = T5 transmission
01 = no hood scoop
EL
-B = Regatta Blue interior trim color
02
1
X
2

KANARMAN · 06-14-2009, 10:25 AM

thank you I had hoped it was a old squad or cruiser of some sort.
mainly because of the trunk wires and the hack aftermarket lights mounted to the front bumper. I will try to get a picture of those two points of the car. Thanks again for your research.

86 50CPRI · 06-14-2009, 11:31 AM

You mentioned it had a 140 speedo? Look for the word 'certified' on the face of the speedo
I take it there was no second buck tag-SSP cars had another one.

flyintiger · 06-14-2009, 01:35 PM

You likely will not find a second bug tag, as the DSO is 41, not 41-xxxx. SSP's will have more than 2 digits in the DSO.

KANARMAN · 06-14-2009, 06:03 PM

I only saw one buck tag that was fastened weth a self drilling minni screw
I havent looked at the speedo that close when I got it everything is gutted out.
It only had the dash and door panels and front seat belts and the car has been repainted with paint on the crome trim from being poorly masked. I was thinking about carfax to see who the original owner was ect there is a sticker on the windshield that says department of defence? But it looks to be replaced ill get a picture of that also

thanks for all the responses and info guys..

lone5oh · 06-18-2009, 08:26 PM

where can i look up this info, somethings are hard to see and read on my car. sorry to highjack. just trying to learn

03-28-2009, 08:23 PM	#1
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	new used notch Ok I just bought my first notch. woo hoo it is a 1985 roller black paint I was told it was a original T5 V8 car and would like to find out if that is correct.I also want to know if it was a squad only because it came with a few black rims and there are a few misc wires under hood and some taped onto rear lighting and there is no hitch on the car? Any help is appreciated thanks Don __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-28-2009, 08:58 PM	#2
wsharp227 New User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 49	Hit me up on IM. I can help with your questions. __________________ Wynne 85 CHP (118,000k) 85 5spd 5.0 Coupe (10,259k)

03-28-2009, 09:12 PM	#3
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	I pmd you thanks __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-28-2009, 11:28 PM	#4
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	Um....this message forum is here so questions and and answers and information can be posted in public. Doesn't do anybody else any good if questions and answers are done in private messages. Please try to use the forums for this stuff. Thanks. The VIN will tell you the original engine. The Body/Buck Tag (metal plate attached to radiator core support, behind driver-side headlamps) will tell you the engine and transmission. There should be an additional tag if the car is an SSP. The Vehicle Certification Label ("door sticker/tag") will tell you the engine, transmission, and possibly if the car is an SSP. __________________ '83 GT, '84 LTD LX, '85 LTD LX (parts car), '96 B2300 SE, '99 CVPI Wanted: VINs, Vehicle Certification Labels, Buck Tags, Build Sheets, Invoices, Window Stickers, Axle Tags

03-29-2009, 01:01 PM	#5
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	thanks FoxChassis we or should I say WSharp227 found that it is a 5.0 5 speed so far. WSharp227 has been a great help. The vin is 1FABP26M2FF124437 Iwont be able to get more info until friday or so I think the guy painted the dash and armrest gray but the door panels are gray also but not painted it has a 140 speedo? and the only seats I have are two blue that are in the car and a pair of gray I wil try to get picts and keep the site posted with mods ect.. thanks.. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-29-2009, 01:48 PM	#6
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	What info do you hve besides the VIN? The VIN does not indicate transmission type.

03-31-2009, 05:29 PM	#8
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	What about the codes for EXTERIOR COLORS and DSO? DATE - 11/84 = November 1984 scheduled build date EXTERIOR COLORS = ? DSO = ? BODY - 66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan INT. TRIM - FBA = low-back cloth and vinyl bucket seats (F), Regatta Blue interior (BA) A - GQ = unknown R - 6 = AM/FM Electronic Search stereo radio with cassette AX - M = 2.73:1 rear gearset with Traction-Lok differential TR - 2 = T5 transmission BB = E5SZ-5310-T front coil springs AA = E5SZ-5560-A rear coil springs

03-31-2009, 09:10 PM	#9
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	the paint is black it looks factory engine bay,trunk ,jambs ect are black.I was in a hurry-LAZY to remove tha fender wells. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-31-2009, 09:25 PM	#10
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	here it is __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm Last edited by KANARMAN; 03-31-2009 at 09:28 PM.

03-31-2009, 09:26 PM	#11
wsharp227 New User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 49	Cool Car.... __________________ Wynne 85 CHP (118,000k) 85 5spd 5.0 Coupe (10,259k)

03-31-2009, 09:33 PM	#12
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	thanks I am ganna ditch the starsky paint and go all black with the gt front clip and cowl hood from the hatch car and maybe some custom accents. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-31-2009, 09:55 PM	#13
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	The DSO looks like 41 but the EXTERIOR COLORS code is too hard too read from that pic. The AC code also look like one letter(Q?), not two like you posted (GQ).

03-31-2009, 11:10 PM	#14
saleenjunky FEP Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lancaster,Pa Posts: 378	85 Notch I would recomend leaving the exterior as is and concentrate on getting it running.Once you get it running then save up and do the exterior.That way if for some reason you have to sell or if life gets in the way you didn't make a piece of crap or project out of the car like alot of people do.In my opinion the car is too nice to butcher up but its your car and my opinion means nothing.

06-13-2009, 04:46 PM	#16
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	bucktag can you decode mustang 124437 66B M 000 1CC DF ST PS AC 02 HB S WD MBW 01 EL-B 02 1 X 2 THERS IS A NUMBER 2 IMPRESSION BELOW PS AND A IS ALSO A PUNCHED NUMBER 2 AFTER THE THIRD LINE READING PS AC AC 02 (2) HB? __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

06-13-2009, 06:35 PM	#17
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	What model year is this?

06-13-2009, 11:00 PM	#18
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	sorry its the 1985 mustang coupe/notchback 5.0 5 speed I belive you ran the vin in a older post of mine.I will copy and paste it here. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

06-13-2009, 11:04 PM	#19
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	The vin is 1FABP26M2FF124437 DATE - 11/84 = November 1984 scheduled build date EXTERIOR COLORS = ? DSO = ? BODY - 66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan INT. TRIM - FBA = low-back cloth and vinyl bucket seats (F), Regatta Blue interior (BA) A - GQ = unknown R - 6 = AM/FM Electronic Search stereo radio with cassette AX - M = 2.73:1 rear gearset with Traction-Lok differential TR - 2 = T5 transmission BB = E5SZ-5310-T front coil springs AA = E5SZ-5560-A rear coil springs __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm Last edited by KANARMAN; 06-13-2009 at 11:06 PM.

06-13-2009, 11:36 PM	#20
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	VIN 1FA = Ford, USA B = manual seatbelts, no airbags P = passenger car 26 = Mustang LX two-door sedan M = 5.0L V-8 engine 2 = VIN check digit F = 1985 model year F = Dearborn Assembly 124437 = 24,437th 1985 Mustang asigned a VIN at Dearborn Assembly Body/Buck Tag MUSTANG = model line 124437 = 24,437th 1985 Mustang asigned a VIN at Dearborn Assembly 66B = Mustang LX two-door sedan M = 5.0L V-8 engine 000_ 1CC = Black exterior paint color DF ST PS AC = air conditioning 02 HB = rear defrost S = cruise control WD = power windows and locks MBW = T5 transmission 01 = no hood scoop EL -B = Regatta Blue interior trim color 02 1 X 2

06-14-2009, 10:25 AM	#21
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	thank you I had hoped it was a old squad or cruiser of some sort. mainly because of the trunk wires and the hack aftermarket lights mounted to the front bumper. I will try to get a picture of those two points of the car. Thanks again for your research. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

06-14-2009, 11:31 AM	#22
86 50CPRI FEP Supporter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Glendale,Az Posts: 1,922	You mentioned it had a 140 speedo? Look for the word 'certified' on the face of the speedo I take it there was no second buck tag-SSP cars had another one. __________________ --Pete-- 86 Capri 5.0 5sp TTops 86 Vert driver 85 Vert project Quote: "The 5.0 is tried and true. Making power on a 5.0 can be made with a blindfold and a beer in one hand." Rich V.

06-14-2009, 01:35 PM	#23
flyintiger FEP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 159	You likely will not find a second bug tag, as the DSO is 41, not 41-xxxx. SSP's will have more than 2 digits in the DSO. __________________ Donny 1993 Feature Car yellow/black 1986 SVO 7B 1985 FHP 1993 FHP #198

06-14-2009, 06:03 PM	#24
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	I only saw one buck tag that was fastened weth a self drilling minni screw I havent looked at the speedo that close when I got it everything is gutted out. It only had the dash and door panels and front seat belts and the car has been repainted with paint on the crome trim from being poorly masked. I was thinking about carfax to see who the original owner was ect there is a sticker on the windshield that says department of defence? But it looks to be replaced ill get a picture of that also thanks for all the responses and info guys.. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

06-18-2009, 08:26 PM	#25
lone5oh FEP User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 53	where can i look up this info, somethings are hard to see and read on my car. sorry to highjack. just trying to learn

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