99-04 GT springs on LTD? will they work?

jaidedeye · 03-22-2009, 11:20 AM

i want to put drag springs on my LTD. since the LTD LX and the 99-04 mustang GT weigh about the same will the springs work?

Ltngdrvr · 03-22-2009, 12:50 PM

99-04 Gt weighs more than a LTD LX, those years of Mustang are heavy.

They should fit though, basically the same suspension, but may not sit or work like you want it to.

jaidedeye · 03-22-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr

99-04 Gt weighs more than a LTD LX, those years of Mustang are heavy.

They should fit though, basically the same suspension, but may not sit or work like you want it to.

well i was thinking a set of moroso or eibach drags springs in the rear from a 99-04 GT. i think that will complete my setup..i already have stock springs with lakewood 90/10' struts in the front and lakewood 50/50's in the rear with a built 8.8 with adjustable upper and lowers

KANARMAN · 03-24-2009, 05:18 PM

Wrong forum section bud, this is the alternative four eye section, all but mustang/capri

The scope of this 'site is NOT aero Mustangs. There are a gabillion other places on the Internet for that

those arent my views just passing the goods word around sorry bud

Ltngdrvr · 03-24-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANARMAN

Wrong forum section bud, this is the alternative four eye section, all but mustang/capri

The scope of this 'site is NOT aero Mustangs. There are a gabillion other places on the Internet for that

those arent my views just passing the goods word around sorry bud

He's working on a alternative four eye, bud. LTD LX

jaidedeye · 03-24-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANARMAN

Wrong forum section bud, this is the alternative four eye section, all but mustang/capri

The scope of this 'site is NOT aero Mustangs. There are a gabillion other places on the Internet for that

those arent my views just passing the goods word around sorry bud

ummmmm...read my sig and the original post again dude

KANARMAN · 03-24-2009, 09:05 PM

I understand you are upgrading you ltd thats awsome.Im not to bring your thread dramma.LOL Im suprised that LTNGDRVR will have any Info about mashing old with new. good luck with your build

Ltngdrvr · 03-24-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANARMAN

Im suprised that LTNGDRVR will have any Info about mashing old with new.

Why???

Greywolf · 03-24-2009, 11:19 PM

Kanarman, the Fox vehicles developed in 1978 were more than Mustangs. The same parts that swap into the 4-eye Mustangs from the SN95 and newer cars swap into our Fairmonts, Zephyrs, LTDs, Cougars...

Of course there are differences, but for example my project is a 1980 Zephyr Z7 Coupe; the only parts dating from 1980 are the body, dash and the engine block (and the block is not from a Zephyr). Everything else is from the 2000+ era including Cobra IRS and brakes, T5 transmission (hoping to move to T56 later), seats from an SN95 GT...and so on.

You'll find it's well within the scope of the 4EP forums to discuss modernization and upgrade of the 4-eye cars, as much as we discuss restoring them to stock or just keeping them on the road.

So kick back and enjoy!

Ben

jaidedeye · 03-25-2009, 03:49 AM

the reason im wanting to swap my rear springs out is becuase the stock ones are sagging really bad and the 99-04 spring rates are close to the specs of the LTD LX springs which arent made anymore

Ltngdrvr · 03-25-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaidedeye

the reason im wanting to swap my rear springs out is becuase the stock ones are sagging really bad and the 99-04 spring rates are close to the specs of the LTD LX springs which arent made anymore

Which springs aren't made any more?

I can get you all the stock replacement springs you want.

LTDScott · 03-25-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANARMAN

Wrong forum section bud, this is the alternative four eye section, all but mustang/capri

The scope of this 'site is NOT aero Mustangs. There are a gabillion other places on the Internet for that

those arent my views just passing the goods word around sorry bud

LOL reading > yu0

jaidedeye · 03-25-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr

Which springs aren't made any more?

I can get you all the stock replacement springs you want.

85 LTD LX springs..they are different spring rate than normal LTD's

Ltngdrvr · 03-25-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaidedeye

85 LTD LX springs..they are different spring rate than normal LTD's

What rate do they need to be?

I have standard and variable rate springs available.

zak · 03-25-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaidedeye

85 LTD LX springs..they are different spring rate than normal LTD's

The closest you can get to original LTD LX are the Motorsport (FRPP) "C" springs, which are the right rate in the front (600 lb/inch) but lower load rating. You might try 03/04 Cobra or 02/03 Mach I front springs (also 600 lb/inch).

Greywolf · 03-25-2009, 05:07 PM

Doesn't the 03/04 Cobra have the IRS and thus the rear springs are physically different?

Ben

KANARMAN · 03-25-2009, 05:27 PM

free bump.

Ok the nonsense that I posted was a couple or replies that I recived from ltngdriver and a moderator fox? I asked a simple question and got those responses. Now I look like the tool. I guess my post count is to low to get respectful advice from those two long time members

other than that have a great day men.

jaidedeye · 03-25-2009, 06:59 PM

will 96-98 GT springs work as well?

i dont want anything too stiff becuase i need my car to squat and hook

zak · 03-26-2009, 07:43 AM

Ben, my prior post suggested Cobra or Mach I front springs, not rear.

jaidedeye · 03-26-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zak

Ben, my prior post suggested Cobra or Mach I front springs, not rear.

i dont need front springs...Just rears

MAD MIKE · 08-01-2009, 07:40 AM

Jaidedeye, here are the '79-'04 Fox/SN95 Mustang rear spring specs from the '07 FRPP catalog.

"Mustang V8"
'79-'84 = 160lb/in
'84-'93 = 200/300lb/in
'94-'98 = 165/265lb/in
'99-'04 = 210lb/in

"Cobra"
'93-'98 = 160lb/in

"Cobra R"
'93 = 240/260lb/in
'95 = 200/260lb/in

As for the offered kits through FRPP.
B and C kits rear springs are 200/300lb/in
F and G kits rear springs are 170/310lb/in

'Drag Race Suspension' M-3000-D
Front- 300/465lb/in
Rear- LH-180lb/in RH-180/350lb/in
*Kit includes an airbag.*

There are no specs on height or load ratings.

jaidedeye · 08-01-2009, 08:34 AM

just a heads up....the 99-04 springs made the LTD sit lower in the back....taking them off and putting the stock springs back in

C7Z · 08-01-2009, 05:00 PM

I thought this thread could use a laugh....

Here's what happened when a friend of mine put 99 Mustang GT springs on the rear of his 93 LX coupe :

And KANARMAN, hate not and be hated not.....

Maybe I'm getting old, but I remember when Ford guys all hung together and only pissed off the Chevy guys, lol....

03-22-2009, 11:20 AM	#1
jaidedeye Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC..Origianlly SoCal Posts: 450	99-04 GT springs on LTD? will they work? i want to put drag springs on my LTD. since the LTD LX and the 99-04 mustang GT weigh about the same will the springs work? __________________ 1982 Silver/Black GT-on the way to 300whp 2010 turbocharged Mazdaspeed 3-268hp/280tq 2009 turbocharged Mazda CX-7-240hp/280tq

03-22-2009, 12:50 PM	#2
Ltngdrvr FEP Power Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 2,132	99-04 Gt weighs more than a LTD LX, those years of Mustang are heavy. They should fit though, basically the same suspension, but may not sit or work like you want it to. __________________ 1979 Zephyr, EFI GT40P 5.0, Mac longtubes, Dynomax exhaust, AODE transmission, 3.27 geared 8.8, subframe connectors, Lakewood uppers/lowers, trunk mounted battery, fuel cell > < My Photo Galleries: http://haloclub.com/gallery/album02 More GT40P info than you ever wanted to know...http://forums.corral.net/forums/show....php?t=1014187

03-24-2009, 05:18 PM	#4
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	Wrong forum section bud, this is the alternative four eye section, all but mustang/capri The scope of this 'site is NOT aero Mustangs. There are a gabillion other places on the Internet for that those arent my views just passing the goods word around sorry bud __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-24-2009, 09:05 PM	#7
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	I understand you are upgrading you ltd thats awsome.Im not to bring your thread dramma.LOL Im suprised that LTNGDRVR will have any Info about mashing old with new. good luck with your build __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm

03-25-2009, 03:49 AM	#10
jaidedeye Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC..Origianlly SoCal Posts: 450	the reason im wanting to swap my rear springs out is becuase the stock ones are sagging really bad and the 99-04 spring rates are close to the specs of the LTD LX springs which arent made anymore __________________ 1982 Silver/Black GT-on the way to 300whp 2010 turbocharged Mazdaspeed 3-268hp/280tq 2009 turbocharged Mazda CX-7-240hp/280tq

03-24-2009, 11:19 PM	#9
Greywolf FEP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olean, NY Posts: 396	Kanarman, the Fox vehicles developed in 1978 were more than Mustangs. The same parts that swap into the 4-eye Mustangs from the SN95 and newer cars swap into our Fairmonts, Zephyrs, LTDs, Cougars... Of course there are differences, but for example my project is a 1980 Zephyr Z7 Coupe; the only parts dating from 1980 are the body, dash and the engine block (and the block is not from a Zephyr). Everything else is from the 2000+ era including Cobra IRS and brakes, T5 transmission (hoping to move to T56 later), seats from an SN95 GT...and so on. You'll find it's well within the scope of the 4EP forums to discuss modernization and upgrade of the 4-eye cars, as much as we discuss restoring them to stock or just keeping them on the road. So kick back and enjoy! Ben

03-25-2009, 05:07 PM	#16
Greywolf FEP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olean, NY Posts: 396	Doesn't the 03/04 Cobra have the IRS and thus the rear springs are physically different? Ben

03-25-2009, 05:27 PM	#17
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	free bump. Ok the nonsense that I posted was a couple or replies that I recived from ltngdriver and a moderator fox? I asked a simple question and got those responses. Now I look like the tool. I guess my post count is to low to get respectful advice from those two long time members other than that have a great day men. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm Last edited by KANARMAN; 03-25-2009 at 05:29 PM. Reason: STUFF

03-25-2009, 06:59 PM	#18
jaidedeye Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC..Origianlly SoCal Posts: 450	will 96-98 GT springs work as well? i dont want anything too stiff becuase i need my car to squat and hook __________________ 1982 Silver/Black GT-on the way to 300whp 2010 turbocharged Mazdaspeed 3-268hp/280tq 2009 turbocharged Mazda CX-7-240hp/280tq

03-26-2009, 07:43 AM	#19
zak FEP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: northeast Posts: 358	Ben, my prior post suggested Cobra or Mach I front springs, not rear. __________________ 1985 LTD LX original owner

08-01-2009, 07:40 AM	#21
MAD MIKE FEP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: C.V. Ca. Posts: 416	Jaidedeye, here are the '79-'04 Fox/SN95 Mustang rear spring specs from the '07 FRPP catalog. "Mustang V8" '79-'84 = 160lb/in '84-'93 = 200/300lb/in '94-'98 = 165/265lb/in '99-'04 = 210lb/in "Cobra" '93-'98 = 160lb/in "Cobra R" '93 = 240/260lb/in '95 = 200/260lb/in As for the offered kits through FRPP. B and C kits rear springs are 200/300lb/in F and G kits rear springs are 170/310lb/in 'Drag Race Suspension' M-3000-D Front- 300/465lb/in Rear- LH-180lb/in RH-180/350lb/in Kit includes an airbag. There are no specs on height or load ratings. __________________ -Michael '79 Fairmont 5dr 'Hoopty' MM Tech Tips Front Control Arm Poly Bushing Install Mustang info

08-01-2009, 08:34 AM	#22
jaidedeye Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC..Origianlly SoCal Posts: 450	just a heads up....the 99-04 springs made the LTD sit lower in the back....taking them off and putting the stock springs back in __________________ 1982 Silver/Black GT-on the way to 300whp 2010 turbocharged Mazdaspeed 3-268hp/280tq 2009 turbocharged Mazda CX-7-240hp/280tq

08-01-2009, 05:00 PM	#23
C7Z FEP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belton, Missouri Posts: 159	Giggity I thought this thread could use a laugh.... Here's what happened when a friend of mine put 99 Mustang GT springs on the rear of his 93 LX coupe : And KANARMAN, hate not and be hated not..... Maybe I'm getting old, but I remember when Ford guys all hung together and only pissed off the Chevy guys, lol.... __________________ -D Payne 1980 Zephyr Station Wagon ( Turbocharged EFI 351w, Silverfox Performance built AOD, 10.96@122.98 so far...) 1980 Fairmont Coupe ( 302, T5, 8.8 with 4.10 gears )

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