rear quarter glass modifications

deathwobbles · 03-27-2009, 10:05 AM

I am putting 87+ rear quarter glass in my 82 coupe. Will I also need to change the door mirrors, trim, interior panels? I think that it will be much better looking than the sail panels, which I cannot stand, makes my car look like a fairlane or somethin.

stock85 · 03-27-2009, 03:10 PM

yes, you need to change it all to make it look right.........or FoxChassis will have your ass!!!!!!!!

j/k FC

russ5898 · 03-28-2009, 02:25 AM

No J/K if you don't do everything foxchasis will def make sure you know about it

FoxChassis · 03-28-2009, 09:54 AM

Does anybody on this entire message forum have the opinion that changing only the quarter windows and nothing else looks good and is not in any way mismatched??

Anybody??

stock85 · 03-28-2009, 01:27 PM

No sir, you are absolutely correct, if it is mistmatched it does look like crap, but not everyone is as adament (sp?) as you.........I'm just messin' with you.....

83ttop · 03-28-2009, 03:03 PM

I did the complete conversion. Initially thought I could get away with not replacing some parts, but soon realized that if you don't do it "ALL" it will look completely like crap. The hardest part for me to find to make the conversion correct was the two trim pieces that extend across the roof of the car along the front and back of the t-top opening.(They are different for 87-88 than pre 87 t-top cars) But after 2 l o n g years I finally found my donor car. Can finally finish the t-top weatherstripping, etc.

rab · 03-28-2009, 03:57 PM

someone should post pics with only the qurt glass changed and then a full convertion.

Bob's84 · 03-28-2009, 03:59 PM

There is quite an extensive thread relating to this very thing. If you search it or for it this was active not that long ago. It pertains more toward the hatch, however most things will be relavent to your coupe.

FoxChassis · 03-28-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock85

not everyone is as adament (sp?) as you.........I'm just messin' with you.....

I know you were messing with me, others in this thread and ones before do not give the impression that they were.

I am adamant about it because it needs to be explained in full detail, and with pictures, so newbs that think all that needs to be done is the glass can see what they are really getting into. I'm tired of seeing these cars getting basterdized and abandoned or parted out because somebody got in over their head with an "update" they thought was going to be simple and easy but instead ended up being much more involved than they realized or could handle.

KANARMAN · 03-28-2009, 08:47 PM

I agree with fox chassis somewhat on this mod. On my t top I have the 89-93 windows
with I belive 87 doors with the funny looking mirrors.I the door panels are the grey and black and the inside plastic quarters are 87-93 I think it matches well.

but it is a shame when people quit a car and junk it unless it is to far gone.

there will be a gap between glass and panel if I rember correct it does look rigged if you do a half window conversion
but I think you would be alright with the old doors it just a matter of opinion.

rab · 03-28-2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis

I know you were messing with me, others in this thread and ones before do not give the impression that they were.

I am adamant about it because it needs to be explained in full detail, and with pictures, so newbs that think all that needs to be done is the glass can see what they are really getting into. I'm tired of seeing these cars getting basterdized and abandoned or parted out because somebody got in over their head with an "update" they thought was going to be simple and easy but instead ended up being much more involved than they realized or could handle.

there should be a post claering deatailing it made, then make it a sticky.

Jax Rhapsody · 03-29-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis

Does anybody on this entire message forum have the opinion that changing only the quarter windows and nothing else looks good and is not in any way mismatched??

Anybody??

I look at it as 79-86 are nothing but the 70's left overs and 87-93 are the 80's left over, cause our cars don't look nothing like what an 80's car should look like. The aero1/4's they dont look too bad, but I wouldnt do it to my car.

85GTStang · 03-31-2009, 11:34 AM

Could someone clarify for me what they say is a complete conversion? My 85 GT already had the newer quarter windows on it when I bought it.

stock85 · 03-31-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 85GTStang

Could someone clarify for me what they say is a complete conversion? My 85 GT already had the newer quarter windows on it when I bought it.

So many things go into the swap, there is another thread in which Fox Chasis asked a bunch of questions about what had been done. It pretty much explains everything that needs to be done..........

The glass, the interior quarter panels, kick panels, the rear hatch panel, hatch carpet, move the seat belt to match the holes for the new quarter panels, all the window molding on the outside of the door, basically and the mirrors on the doors.....I'm sure there's a little more, but that's the highlights to make it look right.

svo85 · 03-31-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rab

there should be a post claering deatailing it made, then make it a sticky.

Maybe I'm missing something here but why on earth would a "how to" be posted regarding aero parts conversions when it sooooooo goes against what this site stands for?

Jax Rhapsody · 03-31-2009, 02:35 PM

Its way too much just for windows: inside plastic, outer molding, sideview mirrors, rear end, headliner, tranny, seatbelt mounts, sparkplugs, blinker fluid, gas cap.

85GTStang · 04-01-2009, 05:19 AM

I have the quarter panels already but I did not know that I would need to move the seat belt mounting point. Sounds like alot of work to put into that when I could use the time and money for something else on the car. I think i will just find someone that has the stock style windows and louvers and put them back in. I prefer those on the car anyway. The guy i bought the 85 from could not find any so that is why he put the later style on it.

What years will fit? I know 85 and 86 are the same, but what about earlier?

Thanks for all the responses. Anyone know where I can find what I need?

Bane · 04-01-2009, 12:25 PM

79-86 should all be the same, unless ford did something stupid and changed something from the 78-82 compared to the 83-86 cars (as they have been prone to do) you should be fine.

stock85 · 04-03-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 85GTStang

I have the quarter panels already but I did not know that I would need to move the seat belt mounting point. Sounds like alot of work to put into that when I could use the time and money for something else on the car. I think i will just find someone that has the stock style windows and louvers and put them back in. I prefer those on the car anyway. The guy i bought the 85 from could not find any so that is why he put the later style on it.

What years will fit? I know 85 and 86 are the same, but what about earlier?

Thanks for all the responses. Anyone know where I can find what I need?

That's if you want to do it right......you don't have to move it but you will have to drill a hole in the quarter panel and then find a plug to fill the hole for the old mounting point......which is what FoxChassis is talking about when it is not done right. I have the windows from my conversion if you are interested.....shoot me a PM. I don't have the louvers, as they broke as they were being removed.

bigjason_5 · 04-04-2009, 11:33 PM

I had just the windows and interior quarter trim panels on my '84, which is now gone. The drip moulding that ran along the roof above the door was cut flush where the quarter window border trim ended. The entire car was painted black, including all the mouldings. It did not look terrible with it all painted gloss black because it did flow well together, but it looked terrible for the simple fact all the moulding was painted. So, my opinion of it was it was a failure. It should have been left stock. And for the record, I did not do it. I did not do the windows or the paint. Previous owner(s) did.

crimsoncat66 · 04-05-2009, 02:32 AM

It just doesnt look right, leave the four eye quarter glass alone. I have seen so many 87-93 cars I prefer the four eye rear quarter glass now.

venuspie · 04-05-2009, 03:33 PM

I changed mine and now and looking to go back. If you are thinking of this, think hard. I now think it takes away from a 4-eye. I still have 87 up quarters and am currently rounding up the parts to go back.

Jax Rhapsody · 04-06-2009, 07:10 PM

ONly thing I want from a aero is some of the trim pieces, maybe seats. Cobra rear bumper

allenpul · 04-07-2009, 03:34 AM

You know if you like the 87-93 cars go get one. 4 Eyed cars are becoming hard and harder to find so why butcher one when 87-93 cars are a dime a dozen. Now to the question at hand. I know there is different mounts and you will be doing some drilling and I know that some of the clips will not have anything to mount to but they look ok if done correctly.

03-27-2009, 10:05 AM	#1
deathwobbles New User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: st.louis Posts: 2	rear quarter glass modifications I am putting 87+ rear quarter glass in my 82 coupe. Will I also need to change the door mirrors, trim, interior panels? I think that it will be much better looking than the sail panels, which I cannot stand, makes my car look like a fairlane or somethin.

03-28-2009, 09:54 AM	#4
FoxChassis The Decoder Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,392	Does anybody on this entire message forum have the opinion that changing only the quarter windows and nothing else looks good and is not in any way mismatched?? Anybody?? __________________ '83 GT, '84 LTD LX, '85 LTD LX (parts car), '96 B2300 SE, '99 CVPI Wanted: VINs, Vehicle Certification Labels, Buck Tags, Build Sheets, Invoices, Window Stickers, Axle Tags

03-28-2009, 03:03 PM	#6
83ttop FEP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada Posts: 114	I did the complete conversion. Initially thought I could get away with not replacing some parts, but soon realized that if you don't do it "ALL" it will look completely like crap. The hardest part for me to find to make the conversion correct was the two trim pieces that extend across the roof of the car along the front and back of the t-top opening.(They are different for 87-88 than pre 87 t-top cars) But after 2 l o n g years I finally found my donor car. Can finally finish the t-top weatherstripping, etc. Last edited by 83ttop; 03-28-2009 at 05:52 PM.

03-28-2009, 08:47 PM	#10
KANARMAN FEP User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kirkland ILL-Chicago-McHenery Ill Posts: 74	I agree with fox chassis somewhat on this mod. On my t top I have the 89-93 windows with I belive 87 doors with the funny looking mirrors.I the door panels are the grey and black and the inside plastic quarters are 87-93 I think it matches well. but it is a shame when people quit a car and junk it unless it is to far gone. there will be a gap between glass and panel if I rember correct it does look rigged if you do a half window conversion but I think you would be alright with the old doors it just a matter of opinion. __________________ 1985 t-top 302 Primmer gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKuLQ1E0g4 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ron_163661.htm http://videos.streetfire.net/video/k...2005_44878.htm Last edited by KANARMAN; 03-28-2009 at 08:52 PM. Reason: because

03-31-2009, 02:35 PM	#16
Jax Rhapsody FEP Power Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,933	Its way too much just for windows: inside plastic, outer molding, sideview mirrors, rear end, headliner, tranny, seatbelt mounts, sparkplugs, blinker fluid, gas cap. __________________ http://images.laughingman1.multiply.com/logo/4 Laviathans Cave Foxy Lady, vote for her His Life as a...

03-27-2009, 03:10 PM	#2
stock85 FEP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rowlett, Texas Posts: 114	yes, you need to change it all to make it look right.........or FoxChassis will have your ass!!!!!!!! j/k FC

03-28-2009, 02:25 AM	#3
russ5898 FEP User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: lake luzerne ny Posts: 87	No J/K if you don't do everything foxchasis will def make sure you know about it

03-28-2009, 01:27 PM	#5
stock85 FEP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rowlett, Texas Posts: 114	No sir, you are absolutely correct, if it is mistmatched it does look like crap, but not everyone is as adament (sp?) as you.........I'm just messin' with you.....

03-28-2009, 03:57 PM	#7
rab FEP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: plover,wi Posts: 447	someone should post pics with only the qurt glass changed and then a full convertion.

03-28-2009, 03:59 PM	#8
Bob's84 FEP Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Saginaw, MI Posts: 419	There is quite an extensive thread relating to this very thing. If you search it or for it this was active not that long ago. It pertains more toward the hatch, however most things will be relavent to your coupe.

03-31-2009, 11:34 AM	#13
85GTStang New User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 5	Could someone clarify for me what they say is a complete conversion? My 85 GT already had the newer quarter windows on it when I bought it.

04-01-2009, 05:19 AM	#17
85GTStang New User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 5	I have the quarter panels already but I did not know that I would need to move the seat belt mounting point. Sounds like alot of work to put into that when I could use the time and money for something else on the car. I think i will just find someone that has the stock style windows and louvers and put them back in. I prefer those on the car anyway. The guy i bought the 85 from could not find any so that is why he put the later style on it. What years will fit? I know 85 and 86 are the same, but what about earlier? Thanks for all the responses. Anyone know where I can find what I need?

04-01-2009, 12:25 PM	#18
Bane FEP Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Severn, MD Posts: 129	79-86 should all be the same, unless ford did something stupid and changed something from the 78-82 compared to the 83-86 cars (as they have been prone to do) you should be fine.

04-04-2009, 11:33 PM	#20
bigjason_5 FEP Power Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 1,377	I had just the windows and interior quarter trim panels on my '84, which is now gone. The drip moulding that ran along the roof above the door was cut flush where the quarter window border trim ended. The entire car was painted black, including all the mouldings. It did not look terrible with it all painted gloss black because it did flow well together, but it looked terrible for the simple fact all the moulding was painted. So, my opinion of it was it was a failure. It should have been left stock. And for the record, I did not do it. I did not do the windows or the paint. Previous owner(s) did. __________________ 1985 Mercury Capri GS - 5.0, 5-Speed, Ported E7s, FMS F303, TFS Valve Springs, Summit Stage 2 Intake, BBK Longtubes, BBK O/R H-Pipe, Flowmasters, Dumps, FRPP HD Clutch, Pro 5.0, Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, and tons of satisfaction when I can say, "I just beat you with a Mercury!" 1983 Mercury Capri RS Crimson Cat - 5.0, 4-Speed, T-roof. 2003 Mustang GT - 4.6, 5-speed, BBK Cold Air, Flowmasters. I'm MyLittlePony's man!

04-05-2009, 02:32 AM	#21
crimsoncat66 FEP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 415	It just doesnt look right, leave the four eye quarter glass alone. I have seen so many 87-93 cars I prefer the four eye rear quarter glass now. __________________ 1983 Mercury Capri Crimson Cat 5.0 4 speed t tops 1986 Mercury Capri GS 5.0 5 speed 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft, flowmaster cat back, fms headers, pro 5.0 shifter, tokico suspension, o/r h-pipe 1990 Ford Mustang notch 5.0 5 speed pro 5.0 shifter, aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear, ud pulleys, prothane mounts, mac headers, flowmaster cat back, o/r h-pipe, lowered 1971 IH Scout 800b all original 232 thrift six 3 speed 1992 Honda Civic VX 1.5 vtecE 5 spd 2001 Honda Insight Hybrid.. Best ave. 87.1 mpg!!!!!

04-05-2009, 03:33 PM	#22
venuspie FEP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 151	I changed mine and now and looking to go back. If you are thinking of this, think hard. I now think it takes away from a 4-eye. I still have 87 up quarters and am currently rounding up the parts to go back.

04-06-2009, 07:10 PM	#23
Jax Rhapsody FEP Power Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,933	ONly thing I want from a aero is some of the trim pieces, maybe seats. Cobra rear bumper __________________ http://images.laughingman1.multiply.com/logo/4 Laviathans Cave Foxy Lady, vote for her His Life as a...

04-07-2009, 03:34 AM	#24
allenpul FEP Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 663	You know if you like the 87-93 cars go get one. 4 Eyed cars are becoming hard and harder to find so why butcher one when 87-93 cars are a dime a dozen. Now to the question at hand. I know there is different mounts and you will be doing some drilling and I know that some of the clips will not have anything to mount to but they look ok if done correctly. __________________ 1982 RS 5.0L Capri and 1993 Mustang LX 5.0L. Newly added to stable 1986 5.0L Vert.

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