Lincoln mark vii rear end?

[mercaprirs]

Ok I think I got a good deal on a rear end from a 89 mark vii lsc it has 3.27 gears with tracktion lock. Has anyone used this rear before and what is different? I think it looks like everything should go together just fine. I paid $75 for it Got tired of waiting for some
94-04 axles to come up. Because I do have a rear from a 87 TC w/3.73 that I want to convert to 5lug. I have already converted the front to 03 cobra 13". Hope I didnt make a mistake with this Mark vii rear. Let me know what you have heard about useing this or personal expierance.

[arj]

It should work fine. You just won't end up using the sway-bar mounts on the housing.

[mercaprirs]

your deff. right about that I wonder if the sway bar setup on it was any better though? I did notice that it is a little longer hope my rims still work. I dont think I need my tires sticking way out. That might be what I have to do until I can finish the conversion on the TC rearend.

[mercaprirs]

Anyone have any pics or know of some one that has a fox with this rear put under the car? I would like to see how far they stick out. I was told that the saleen and the 93 cobra R used this rear end. Is this true?

[arj]

I just looked under my Mark VII. The sway bar is totally different, and will not work in a Mustang/Capri. It mounts to the axle tubes and the body, rather than only to the control arms.

I don't remember for sure, but I think the width is the same as the TurboCoupe rear.

[horsepowerjunkie]

I have this rearend in my sons 87 Notch with stock length fox body axles and flipped Lincoln caliper brackets, so it retains the stock fox body width.
Check out the link below for info on this swap.
http://home.pacbell.net/black306/tech/reardisc.html

[1982 niGhTmare]

So if fox length axles were used then the Mark VII 8.8 housing is the same width as 86-98 Mustang 8.8 housings? And it's the LSC housing that I am thinking of that is 3/4" longer per side, right?

[horsepowerjunkie]

The housing is the same with as the fox body. The Lincoln axles are just longer. I have a Lincoln housing in my 89 LX. I just added drum brake backing plates and stock axles from a 4 cyl. 7.5 rear end.

[cb84capri]

So if fox length axles were used then the Mark VII 8.8 housing is the same width as 86-98 Mustang 8.8 housings? And it's the LSC housing that I am thinking of that is 3/4" longer per side, right?

i clicked the link and it said mark vii axles are 1-1/4" wider per side.

cale

[1982 niGhTmare]

i clicked the link and it said mark vii axles are 1-1/4" wider per side.

cale

Interesting, I know the LSC and 99-04 Mustang 8.8 axles are 1.25" longer per side, and the housings themselves are 3/4" longer per side.

So if someone used fox length axles in a mark vii housing, fox axles were used in the wider housing or are those axles 1.25" longer in the fox width housing. I'm lost.

EDIT: Wait, does the LSC have a different rear than a non-LSC If it's all the same then yes the housing itself should be 3/4" longer per side. Or maybe it changed over the years like in the Mustang?

[arj]

There aren't any rear end differences between LSC's and other Mark VII's.

[1982 niGhTmare]

So then the Mark VII housing IS 3/4" longer per side. Now I wonder what rear horsepowerjunkie used.

[blackgt85]

I don't think that the housings from the Mark VII's are wider, its just the axles........ Just like how the SN95 housings are not any wider than the Fox housings, its the axles that are wider.


Justin

[Jax Rhapsody]

This has been bugging me, what does LSC stand for? Lincoln Super, SPorts Coupe?

[horsepowerjunkie]

I don't think that the housings from the Mark VII's are wider, its just the axles........ Just like how the SN95 housings are not any wider than the Fox housings, its the axles that are wider.


Justin

Justin, is correct. My housing came out of a 1989 Lincoln LSC. I just removed the Lincoln axles and disc brake stuff and bolted on the drum brake backing plates and axles out of the orignal 7.5 rear from my 1989 4 cyl. Mustang. The housing is identical to a Mustang 8.8 except it has brackets welded on for the Lincoln sway bar!

[arj]

This has been bugging me, what does LSC stand for? Lincoln Super, SPorts Coupe?

'LSC' apparently means 'Lincoln Sport Coupe', but I'm not sure if it really stands for anything. It may be like the 'Capri RS', or the '351 M', where the 'RS' and 'M' don't seem to stand for anything.

The LSC is thought to be the best Mark VII... By those who aren't familiar with the Mark VII.

[zac_f83]

all 8.8 housings from 85-98 in any car are the same width

the axles are the difference to accommodate the rear disc brakes like horsepowerjunkie said he used stock fox mustang length axles and flipped the lsc caliper brackets to retain the stock fox width

[zac_f83]

'LSC' apparently means 'Lincoln Sport Coupe', but I'm not sure if it really stands for anything. It may be like the 'Capri RS', or the '351 M', where the 'RS' and 'M' don't seem to stand for anything.

The LSC is thought to be the best Mark VII... By those who aren't familiar with the Mark VII.

the "M" in 351m stands for Michigan as in where it was made like the "C" in 351c was made in Cleveland

[arj]

The 'M' stands for 'Michigan' about as much as it stands for 'Modified', or 'Midland', or any of the other M-words that have been attributed to it over the years. The debate over the 'M' is an old issue without a definitive answer.

[denshem]

Luxury Sport Coupe

[arj]

Luxury Sport Coupe

Good eye. I meant to write 'Luxury' rather than 'Lincoln', but I've heard both used to explain the LSC thing. I have the original owners manual and shop manuals for my Mark VII, and they don't break down the LSC designation. Maybe the sales brochure would have some info.

[1982 niGhTmare]

I don't think that the housings from the Mark VII's are wider, its just the axles........ Just like how the SN95 housings are not any wider than the Fox housings, its the axles that are wider.


Justin

The 94-98 SN95 housings are the same width as fox ones, with 3/4" longer axles.

However, the 99-04 SN95 housings are 3/4" longer per side, and the axles are 1.5" longer per side.

The Lincoln axles are 1.25" longer per side, so that is where it brought confusion. I thought with almost the same length axles as the 99-04 Mustangs, it would have had a wider housing too, rather than use a fox length housing. This is why gathering info for a 5 lug or disc conversion can be hard at times


And the "M" apparently stands for mystery, because no one knows.

[cb84capri]

i always thought it was "modified" and rs was "rally sport."

cale

[banzaibullitt]

That's what I was told a long, long time ago.

[banzaibullitt]

The 351M and 400 engines were derived from the 351C, and are all considered part of Fords "335 series" of engines.
The 400 engine was developed in in 1970 in response to the increase in pollution control measures placed on auto manufacturers. Big and heavy cars were still the fad, but the traditional Ford powerplants, such as the 390 and 460, could not meet the new emissions requirements.

Ford needed a "go between" engine, something with more displacement than the Cleveland, but not as much as the 385 series motors. Ford also needed an engine that could be used in trucks and large vehicles, and utilize their existing heavy-duty transmissions. The 351C would not work due to its small-block "Windsor" bellhousing bolt pattern.

Engineers took the Cleveland motor as a starting point and modified it in several ways:
400 cid.
Bellhousing pattern same as 429/460 (to allow use of already existing heavy-duty transmissions.
Main journal diameter increased by 0.25" to 3.00" for greater bearing surface area (incidentally, same as a 351W)
Crank stroke increased from 3.50" to 4.00" to gain 50 cid.
Deck height increased from 9.206" to 10.297" accommodate larger stroke
New intake manifold for wider deck.
Heads are identical in design to 351-2V, but have larger chambers to reduce compression, may also have air injection ports.
Different harmonic balancer and flexplate than 351C

351M
Same block as 400, but crank is back to 3.50" stroke.
Pistons have thicker compression height to maintain compression a 8.2:1 in the tall deck.
Different harmonic balancer than 400
Production of the 400 and 351M engines ceased in the early 80's, as oil prices began to sky rocket and federal EPA regulations became stricter. Ford turned to its Windsor series engines as the primary V8 options for passenger cars and trucks.