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    figured i'd do this.

    I have a 1980 coupe. It came with a 4cylinder on a american made 4 speed. I got it from my brother who got it from our uncle. I currently am putting a 5.0 from like an 83 van along with a t5 from a 87 gt and a 7.5 rear end from an 82 gt. Only being short of a couple of parts to make this run i figured i would start me a rebuild thread. Pics tomorrow of pulling apart the front end.

    Going to repaint the front end of the car, just the frame. I got me a couple (like 6 haha it was a dollar a can) cans of duplicolor primer. Will spray gunned paint stick to aerosol duplicolor or would that be a horrible mess? If not i'll just have wait to paint my fenders till i can get some proper paint.
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    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    What I've learned that if you are going to spray gun anything, your prep needs to be top notch or you are just going to waste your time and money.
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    ok. so thats a no on duplicolor primer as a primer for spray gun paint? i think ill just kill the rust and temporarily spray it. just not spend much time on paint. I'll just use whatever i can find.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    look for rustoleum quart and gallon cans, it's really cheap at like 30.00 a gallon(you only need 2-3 quarts though) and they have many colors, caution red, caution orange, john deere green, flat black, SATIN BLACK, whites, reds, etc...and the paint is very tough, i guess it should be since the label says industrial use
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    hmm. what primer if any would i need? do i need thinner? how big a air tank i need to spray it(we have a gun we got but have never used, but only a 5 gallon pancake compressor, very small). u ever use this paint before?
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    we did Jeff's mustang(7t9cobra on here) with flat black(turned out more grey than black, i say use satin black if anything) and it turned out OK and it did what we wanted-make the car one color. you can use the 5gal pancake compressor, but ideally at least a 12gal would be best, for this cheap paint it doesn't really matter to be honest.. We used regular acetone to thin it out enough to spray through the gun, painting outside on a nice day, lol..are you into sanding much? try FEP and googles searches on "painting with a roller", etc.. it can turn out very nice if done right..As for primer if you dont have any bare metal showing, it's not a big deal IMO for this kinda paint job, i would buy a couple cans of generic primer(looks like you already have some) and spray that on the bare steel and plastic parts first, you dont have to cover the whole car in it..good luck, i'd help if you were closer
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    if you are looking to kill rust, go to your local hardware store and buy some "ospho" its in a white-ish clear quart or gallon jug. its really cheap. read the back and see if its pre-mixed. buy the pre-mixed. its cool stuff. get a paint brush too. basically you just brush it over the rust then let it dry for 24 hours. it will KILL rust and keep it from coming back. it will also etch the metal for better paint adhesion. its really cool stuff. ive been using it on my car. the car is down to bare metal, and i was outside sandblasting. in the process it got snowed on. where ever the ospho is, its still rust free. you could see where every flake was on the bare metal. i would use it on a showroom job or a backyard rattlecan job. good stuff. like mark said. if you want a flat black look....dont go with flat black. unless you want to tear wash mitts aparts and look like dark gray primer. i would honestly do gloss black though. it looks more classy
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    wow. ill go get me some ospho. I have novagel but it wasnt keeping it from coming back. I think i'll go white again. But then again black would look nice and not show as much dirt. Didnt get to pull anythign off. I did however grab some of my trim and i managed to pull off the metal of all the shorter pieces. I did pretty good, I accidently clamped one of the pieces and there was a slight indentation on it. Idk if it is still there, i had it in cloth so i dont think its permanent. ITs actually a very easy thing to do. I realized its way easier if you scraped the adhesive on the car side off to the metal. The back of my trim isnt that pretty on em all :/. never the less i was suprised how quickly they went to being flat. I only had em pressed for a obout 20 minitues each.
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    Post some pics of your progress.

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    will do. as soon as i get home from school.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    few questions:

    how much is ospho going to cost.
    will it eat paint if i dont feel like sanding it off (just wondering haha)?
    how many psi am i going to be running on a spray gun?
    how difficutlt is the hood to remove at the firewall(the circular mounts)?
    theres some rust that looks surface at the firewall that i prolly should trace all the way to kill it.
    With the rustoleum, will it need a clearcoat to make it all glossy and just for its completion?
    do you have any pics of it 82mustang?

    I think i will do a nice gray. do they happen to do custom colors? if i could get storm gray i would paint my dd(89 olds cutlass ciera) with a full rustoleum paint job, but only if they have that color.

    thats it for now. Pics tomorrow. Ill start tearing into it and try to buy me some ospho. If i dont get it done by this weekend i will have to pull it in the garage so ppl dont complain. right now the car doesnt look like it doesnt run other than the jacks its on. with out a front end i am sure ppl will gripe (deed restrictions haha). if i can get it in there i can work any time.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    If there is not alot of rust a POR-15 starter kit will do like 6 square feet, and it costs less than 20 dollars. It does not require a spray gun either. It is a 3 stage process, and it worked out great for me.

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    hmm. that might do it actually. I'm here in texas where there is no snow. the is some rust on the car but must all of it is only surface. there was only like spots of horrible rust by the rain channels or whatever they are for the trunk.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    ospho is about 15 bucks a gallon or so. it doesnt hurt the paint at all. when its dry it will leave a white powder. wipe it off and there will be a dark gray coating that can be sanded for primer. when its drying youll see certain areas of almost black. thats where its killing rust. so in your case, you would just paint it on with a brush (its about as thin as water so use quite a bit) then when it dries (about 24 hours or so) you can prep it like you would the rest.
    oh yea.....post up some pics!
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    Can Ospho be sprayed? Your description of it reminds me of Permatex Rust Treatment that comes in spray cans. The Permatex has alot of phosphoric acid in it and does a very good job but its very expensive.
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    where are yall buying ospho at? i looked a couple places near me. ill go adventure some more and look, but wheres a good start?
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    lol i got ya


    first off... who knows what wheels are these? They came on the car but i never knew anything about em.


    i got some roof damage in the corner. that i might leave up to a "professional" but i still am not sure.


    my engine bay.


    this side of the core support isn't 100 percent straight as it should. as for the bottom of the core support... idk.


    i already had a stainless steel tray that came with my car but was never installed. that rust there needs some loving.


    more rust that i need to kill.


    back side of trim pieces. thats prolly the worst piece and its really just dirty with dirt and not all burn.


    more to come. Idk if i want to start pulling stuff off till i have the materials to repair the rust and paint it. I am now off to go work on it.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    That looks not bad at all. I'd say its a good foundation to start from and the rust doesnt look bad at all. I have seen worse when doing my car. The roof looks like it will be a little bit of a chore. Nothing a spot rivet and puller cant fix with a little hammering to. If you have all the rims I kinda like the nostalgic look. I believe those are from 79 I could be wrong
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    oh. i have turbo coupe rims. those are just way too small. They never kept traction in my 4 cylinder. I would lose the rear out form under me is i took a curve w/o slowing down a lot.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

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    Manual brakes and steering, you going to leave them?

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    That's one fundamentally sound 4eye. And basic too. I like em that way myself. I like it.
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    gdniel... yes! i love the stiff steering from my manual set up. Thats why i love this car and merely accept my other car. BUT, as for the brakes, i might have to swap over to power brakes. I have bigger drums on my 7.5 rearend. Much bigger than the stock drums. I also will probably end up upgrading the front brakes to something bigger too but not in the near future.

    yes. If i am correct it was made from canada. But then again i am not sure anymore. I assumed it was because of the fuel canister in the engine compartment for leaded fuels(i am probably wrong) and the dealer add on ac.
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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    i hate manual steering. i drove a 66 jeep j-3000 (6500LB pick-up) with manual steering for half a year. every night my wrists and forearm ached horribly. has manual brakes too.....almost ran over a homeless dude because of it. if you want to spray ospho, you can just buy a cheap spray bottle and spray in on through that. it doesnt need to be laid on evenly like paint or anything. just make sure its 100% dry before you start to sand it, or you will ruin a lot of sandpaper lol. your rust is VERY minor. its a great looking project! if you have an ace hardware i would check there. if not, maybe a true value store. its a green liquid in a whiteish clear gallon or quart jug with white writing on it. it should be next to all of the acids and paint thinners.
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    Well in this car is isnt so bad steering. haha my car isnt that heavy. only thing that was a terd to mess with is parking lots

    anyways, i drove around and didnt find any ospho. I am going to go look other places this weekend for it. I did have some gel stuff and figured i might as well try it and i globbed it on som rust under where the battery sits (the bottom of that frame rail was very nasty with rust) so i gave it a heavy dose. I gotta go wash it off in a minitue(directions say so haha). So any kind of rustoleum will do? I found "professional" and the regular stuff, also the barbque grill paint which says it takes heat up to 1000 degrees. Can they make custom color mixes?
    1980 Mustang Notchback :: 83 5.0 from a truck! t-5 . almost running!

    soon to have 7.5 rear from an 82 gt, e7 heads, turbocoupe wheels.

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