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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean_T View Post
    I swear, I'll never buy another sun roof Fox or anything with a vinyl roof. But, I have this thing for '69 Firebirds...
    I personally hate sunroof cars. The less headroom is a pain for me and the whole rust issues make them even worse IMHO.

    I do understand the love for 69 Firebirds! I have one myself that I would love to have the time and money to work on!

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    Full metal roof or all-out convertible, or nothing at all.

    That sure is a good looking bird. Definitely needs disassembly, some love, a bunch of $$$$, and reassembly. Is that a factory color? I don't even care if it's not, I'd be really tempted to keep it that color. 350/T350?

    I like them in the burnt orange and the gold too - with a black top. It's hard to beat the look of a good color with a black vinyl top, on classic '60s coupes.
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    You've pegged it right with the needs a bunch of $$$$. It has most of its parts but if I replace one hub center, the rest of them will look like crap so I have to replace them all. Same with everything else. The original color is comparable to what Ford called medium metallic blue but I'm not sure what the color it is now (which I like more). Stock 2bbl 350 and 4 spd Muncie. I will probably change to a 4 bbl and get the '69 Trans Am hood for it since the original hood is rusted clear through. And today, I saw a cheaper '69 on Craigslist but with a 400 (although it's missing a few parts). Oh well. If I learned anything, it's better to have one on hand than chase something that may be better.

    I sanded the leaded sections of the donor roof today and uncovered some ugly dents and rust on the passenger front A-pillar joint. I never get a break. So now I have to decide if I should cut up the sunroof skin to fix the solid skin, cut up the donor to fix the sun roof, or bail and haul it all to the scrap yard.

    I probably won't do the last unless I totally foul up welding up the messed up parts on either roof. Or, I could punt and blow another $150 on a donor roof but sand off the paint over the leaded sections to make sure they are solid.

    Ugh.
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    Wow, nice write up on the roof. hope you continue the updates.
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    Thanks!

    Okay,

    Finally managed to drill all the spot welds and cut the welds on the donor roof section.


    That was a lot of spot welds...

    And it wasn't a perfect donor:


    Sigh. I'll have to somehow fix that and patch some rust pin holes.

    One more thing I had to harvest from the donor roof since my car had a sunroof was the roof cross brace structure.



    It has tabs which will fit on the '84 Notches roof side rail structures holes.



    Here you can see I cut it loose from the donor roof section and test fitted it to the '84 Notch. Notice I have sanded to bare metal all the areas on the edge of the roof structure where I will need to weld in the donor roof skin.



    So I tossed the donor roof skin on the notch for a test fit.


    I will need to pay attention at the C and A pillar areas to make sure it fits correctly.





    It looks so close - but I'm going to need to first paint some anti-rust paint on the under side of the donor skin and then clamp it in place and adjust it the best I can. It looks like it will over hang the front (windshield area) and back (rear window area) by about 1/16-1/8". Once I get close to welding I'll see if I can get it to fit better.
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    Wow dream, so great to see this progress, this is some great work

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8only View Post
    Wow dream, so great to see this progress, this is some great work
    Agreed. I read this stuff with interest. If I know how much work it is to fix something like this, I will take better care of the cars I have!

    Were there that many spot welds required?
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    [QUOTE=82GTforME;1743439]
    Quote Originally Posted by v8only View Post
    Wow dream, so great to see this progress, this is some great work/QUOTE]

    Agreed. I read this stuff with interest. If I know how much work it is to fix something like this, I will take better care of the cars I have!

    Were there that many spot welds required?
    There are over 100 spotwelds. Ask me how I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82GTforME View Post
    Were there that many spot welds required?
    Think about the fact that all there is between your head and the ground in a roll over is the thin sheet metal of the roof and the brace that holds the dome light.

    Yeah! I want at least that many spot welds so that sheetmetal stays on!

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    Looks like I maybe doing a roof skin and was wondering how the fitment is coming
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    No progress other than I did spray the weld through primer. I might be able to start on welding in the next couple weeks.
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    Ok, so after reading all five pages of this thread and no update since December, I'm bumping this thing up...

    I am about to swap a '92 drivetrain into an '80 chassis and talked to DIY Auto Tune about a Megasquirt set-up instead of the Ford - Ford crossing with harnesses and EEC-IV voodoo. After going through all the effort, would you do it again or gone aftermarket?

    I think I am going with aftermarket ECU and harness and then an aftermarket set of gauges vs. wiring in the '92 EEC-IV computer haness and trying to make the '80 gauges work.

    I also have a factory sunroof car (missing the vinyl headliner), and thankfully the sheet metal doesn't appear to be as bad as your turned out to be. I'm crossing my fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wraithracing View Post
    Think about the fact that all there is between your head and the ground in a roll over is the thin sheet metal of the roof and the brace that holds the dome light.

    Yeah! I want at least that many spot welds so that sheetmetal stays on!

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    Just 4 welds for me 'cause I would glue that pig on. Not goin' anywhere then!

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    Too bad the pics aren't visible anymore. I picked up an 84 LTD wagon this weekend, with an 86 harness, someone else's project that they got in over their head on.
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    Dean_T....tried to send you a PM, but it said your box is full....
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    Can photobucket suck anyworse?!?! Went to Deans photobucket page, trying to download some of the schematics he did up, but it's blocking them.....does anyone have them by chance?
    What happened with Dean, he hasn't been on here in over 2 years?
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    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Can photobucket suck anyworse?!?! Went to Deans photobucket page, trying to download some of the schematics he did up, but it's blocking them.....does anyone have them by chance?
    What happened with Dean, he hasn't been on here in over 2 years?
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    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    From Fuel Pump relay to front wiring....stem to stern


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Claflin View Post
    Too bad the pics aren't visible anymore. I picked up an 84 LTD wagon this weekend, with an 86 harness, someone else's project that they got in over their head on.

    Conversion wiring



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    Im so glad I found this..... Heres my problem as seen in my picture, the upper 2 connectors are from the ECU harness (black and grey female) and the 2 lower connectors ( both black 1 large and the other a small connector) So a little history on my 86..... the harness on both sides were hacked out when I got the capri so I had to find replacements I believe the ECU harness is out of a 89-90 as im going mass air but I dont remember what I got the dash harness out of. Im ready to blow my brains out! So I went to my local pick a part and found a 89 stang and grabbed 3 male connectors (2 black and a grey) and all have different colored wires so thats why im at a stand still. Should the connectors on the dash harness be "male"?Name:  thumbnail (6).jpg
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    Not sure where or how I missed this thread before but Awesome thread! Mad skills Dean! The EFI wiring the way you are doing it is not for the faint at heart for sure!

    love the firebird also btw


    the process I’ve recommended over the years is to find a clapped out “done dealing” type 86 V8 car that has the trans preferred in it. Then the entire harness swaps over. Early gauges need the 86 style circuit board or to be repinned, etc

    Gives a car that is exactly how the 86’s were

    purists can run factory speed density

    plug and play guys can source a FMS SD to MAF kit and plug and play

    guys that like the more mainstream MAF conversion can repin the ECU harness and add the wires

    guys that like to mod can run the aftermarket speed density setup with closed loop wideband O2

    etc.


    huge respect for the approach taken and the steps documented here as well as the diagrams!
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