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    Default DETAILED instructions heater core install w/out cutting DUW

    Hey guys, I finally changed out my heater core this weekend, as per all of your suggestions. Looks like my old core after all was beginning to show signs of leaking. Hopefully next weekend my dash will go in. I'm going to start this article with the dash removed for simplicity sake. This is a very detailed step by step procedure with NO cutting involved. Evacuating the a/c is also not required. This was also performed on an 86 gt vert, though it applies to almost all year foxes.

    NOTE: THREAD WITH PICS ON REMOVING DASH HERE

    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...t=dash+removal

    TOOLS and supplies NEEDED:

    -7/16 socket, preferably long socket, short extension and ratchet
    -7/16 wrench
    -5/16 short wrench
    -5/16 socket and ratchet, preferably long
    -Black RTV
    -phillips screwdriver for door sill and kick panel removal
    -3 to 3 1/2 inch socket to jam between dash and firewall for clearance
    -Beer




    1. Remove dash, or unbolt and lower out of your way.

    2. A. Remove the nuts on the firewall on either side of the air conditiong accumulator. For this I used a 7/16 deep socket and short extension on both sides. Pull the bracket back on each side. Don’t be afraid to pry and bend the bracket back and away from the firewall, it won’t break, and it’ll bend right back on.




    B. Now remove the nuts that were behind the bracket. I used the same 7/16 setup from before on the right side, and a 7/16 wrench on the one closest to the passenger side.



    C. While you are there, take off the heater hoses going into the firewall and spray the heater core outlets with a white lithium grease so they will be lubricated enough to slip off the rubber grommet.

    3. Pull the carpet back slightly on the passenger side. This is important for several reasons. The first is that coolant may spill on your carpet. The second is to gain access to the bottom housing nut seen in the following picture.


    4. using a 7/16th socket, remove the very bottom housing bolt shown in the above picture and the top two housing bolts shown in the following picture.


    5. Grab on the entire box and pulling it towards you, wiggle it out a few inches. When it’s out far enough the heater core outlets and studs will be on the inside of the firewall as shown in the following picture. Do not attempt to pull the whole unit out, it will not come out all the way with the air condition condenser still installed. The goal is to just pull it out just far enough to gain access to access the bolts on the top of the heater core lid.





    6. Jam a socket between 3 and 4 inches long between the top of the heater core lid and the top of the firewall as shown in the picture. This is essential or you will not have any room to access the back bolts.


    7. using a 5/16th deep or 8mm (it is possible to use a short socket but it’s more difficult) undo the front two heater core lid bolts. Now use a very short 5/16th wrench to undo the driver side rear bolt. Now use the deep 5/16th with the small ratchet to undo the passenger side rear bolt. Please keep in mind that these two rear bolts are a pain in the butt to remove, take your time and do not drop the bolts behind the back of the heater core box. Additional tip is that if you do not have enough room to pull the rear two bolts off, you can remove that plastic insulation that goes along the top of the firewall/frame.
    front two bolts



    rear passenger side bolt



    8. Remove the heater core see picture. Be careful not to spill coolant.



    9. Remove all of the old black silicone from the inside of the heater core box. Make sure all of it has been removed, this is critical



    10. Put a bead of silicon(I used the black rtv) around the edge of the inside of the heater core box where the new heater core will rest, as show in the following picture. Lubricate the new heater cores outlets.




    11. Slide the core in while a friend makes sure that the outlets slip through the rubber grommets at the firewall. The rubber grommet does not go through the firewall, it stays on the inside.


    12. The heater core is now seated properly as you can see in the next picture. Bolt the lid back onto the heater core box. The passenger side rear bolt is not essential if you are having trouble putting it back on.




    13. Pull the socket that’s jammed in there out. Push the box through the firewall with a friends help from the other side to watch. DO NOT TUG ON THE HEATER CORE OUTLETS.



    14. Put the three nuts back onto the housing and put the nuts back onto the studs coming through the firewall. Bend your brackets back, put your final two nuts on.

    15. Reinstall dash.
    Last edited by v8only; 06-11-2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Hosted photos on FEP
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    one of the pictures may not show, if it doesn't, right click, and show picture
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    no questions or comments???

    the tech article for dash removal and installation will come in the near future
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    I think everyone is just in awe....


    Good tech piece.
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    good job, did you ever get around to doing the dash removal article?
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    I haven't had a chance yet, have not removed one. however, I've got one coming off on my parts car, and going onto another car, so very soon (within the next month or so) I'll get the four eyed dash removal and installation article.
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    wow , gettin ready 2 do mine!!!! great job.thanks.

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    A Thanks from me also Jeremy. Kind of timely, probably this winter I'll be doing mine. Ever heard of winter?

    J.

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    Yes indeed. It's rained 3 or 4 days now over the last two weeks here in Cali. Kinda puts a stop to everything over here. Last night it must have hit 55 degrees, whew, it was getting cold!!! Truthefully, it's always so warm and dry here that I was loving being cold and wet last night!

    This install is not bad at all. I've heard you can just swing the dash down too instead of feeding out all the wires.
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    I noticed from the equipment list you left out a step...BEER!

    Please Mr. & Mrs. Administrator, place this thread in the sparsely populated Tech Articles section of www.FourEyedPride.com .

    Seeing how my heater core is currently bypassed, I will probably be doing this over the winter or next spring and I'd like to be able to find this little tech tidbit easily when I do get around to doing it.

    Thanks.

    And thanks for the writeup and pictues!

    Scott
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    Default Re: DETAILED instructions heater core install w/out cutting

    Quote Originally Posted by v8only

    TOOLS and supplies NEEDED:

    -7/16 socket, preferably long socket, short extension and ratchet
    -7/16 wrench
    -5/16 short wrench
    -5/16 socket and ratchet, preferably long
    -Black RTV
    -phillips screwdriver for door sill and kick panel removal
    -3 to 3 1/2 inch socket to jam between dash and firewall for clearance
    -Beer

    perhaps I need to re-refer you to the list of items needed to complete this install
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    I saw it on the list, I just didn't see it in any of the photo steps!
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    someone told me you can remove the core by removing the glove box and reaching it that way...
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    if your car does NOT have factory air conditioning, then yes, you can do that. if it has factory a/c, they you're screwed.
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    This one was born to be archived! Thank you for posting this, it's fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8only
    if your car does NOT have factory air conditioning, then yes, you can do that. if it has factory a/c, they you're screwed.
    Why would a/c get in the way?
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    The heater box is different for a/c equipped cars, and some of the a/c stuff is in that area too, interfering with your operating room
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    Gotcha. Damnit! lol Looks like ill be driving w/o heat this winter,oh those dreaded 40 degree nights Its actually my defrost that i need it for.Thanks for that tip.
    2001 Cobra

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    I just unbolted my steering column and let it rest in on the seat for clearance then unbolt the dash and carefully pulled it back, I didnt have to take the dash all the way out. what a pain of a job though, I never want to do that again.

    nice job on the tech with the pics...

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    Sorry this took so long guys, I fixed all links guys.

    additionally they can all be viewed seperately here

    http://www.thompsontransmission.com/...es/Heatercore/
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    Good Job Jeremy...thank you for you efforts

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    You actually have a FORD replacement part? What is the part number? All I find is cheapo ones around here.
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    this job was done at least a year ago, if not longer, it was picked up from the dealer. I'll go through my original unresized pictures tonight when I get home and see if I can zoom in enough on that pic to grab a part#
    Jeremy
    -86 mustang SSP X CHP Unit # 3788-bone stock & staying that way
    -66 Mustang, bench seat car,8.8,t5 fuel injected 92 engine
    -72 Maverick 5.0 resto in process
    -12SS Camaro 6 speed. 600 FWHP, Kraftwerks Supercharger
    -03 z71 Avalanche 9" lift on 35s Daily Driven 20k a year. 290k miles at 11.8 mpg
    Entire 1986 electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual download
    http://slantnosefox.com/picturehosti...g%20manual.zip

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    I bought a Ford one of Foxchassis a little while ago. (ya ya still not installed..lol)

    On the outside of the box it has this:

    E9LY-18476-A
    CORE


    On the label applied to the core:

    FORD MOTOR COMPANY
    E9LH-18476-AA
    VALEO P/N 20000266
    MADE IN MEXICO 93090701
    FORM NO. 5OO15

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    Quote Originally Posted by capriman86 View Post
    I bought a Ford one of Foxchassis a little while ago. (ya ya still not installed..lol)

    On the outside of the box it has this:

    E9LY-18476-A
    CORE


    On the label applied to the core:

    FORD MOTOR COMPANY
    E9LH-18476-AA
    VALEO P/N 20000266
    MADE IN MEXICO 93090701
    FORM NO. 5OO15
    Thank you kindly
    2017 Lincoln MKZ AWD
    2003 Town Car
    2017 GTI
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