1982 mustang 2.3l carb help!

[x1986chp]

It's been many years since I've been on this forum because I sold my 86 coupe about 8 years ago, but I just bought a 82 4 cylinder coupe this morning and I'm excited to be back!

So I bought this car off this guy who said the carburetor needs to be rebuilt ( car not running and carburetor in the trunk). Got home from work and started cleaning it in hopes to get it clean enough to at least get it running and in my drive way because I at least wanna drive it around b4 eventually swapping it with a v8 ( oem 5.0, terminator, coyote)

After really looking at the carb and then looking under the hood at the intake manifold I realized that the carb that was in the trunk was a 1bbl and there are 2 holes in the manifold so I'm assuming it had a 2bbl on it? So my question(s) are what carburetor came onto a 82 2.3l and does anyone have pictures of their carburetors on their vehicles that I can see w/o the air cleaner housing so that I can see how it's supposed to be hooked up...... vacuum lines, electrical, etc etc! Also if someone has part/model number of the carburetor so that I can possibly buy the correct part from ebay etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated so that I don't get yelled at by my wife and sleep on the couch for buying a car that doesn't run 🤣🤣🤣

[x1986chp]

I can't figure out how to post pictures from my phone of the carburetor

[x1986chp]

https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/9SuZZdBur1gu

[x1986chp]

https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5xorCCudWnq5

[x1986chp]

I hope these links work

[xctasy]

Welcome. The photos downloaded great on my cell phone.










Starting only in June1982 for all 2.3s used in Fox Capris, Rangers, Fairmont's, Granada's, and downsized Fox LTDs and Marquis, the 83 Ford Mustangs, 2.3 carb engines had the Feedback 1bbl YFA Carter, and it has the bowl controlled Mixture Control Solenoid equiped and runs off a Micro Computer Unit found on the driver's side shock tower. The ignition system gained long reach plugs, but remained Duraspark II. The engine is the same as the 2.3 Ranger 1bbl for 1983. If it's an 83, it has a shift indicator for 4 and 5 speed manual versions.

If your car is a 1982, it should be Holley Weber 2bbl equiped, with a carb body stamped with 23/27 on the Venturi casting, and they aren't feedback, and have no electronics except for the Duraspark II ignition. You'll find a replacement carb from a new old stock supply, or maybee All State Carburetor.

The 79 Foxes and Pintos and Bobcats had larger 25/27 Venturi 2bbl Holley Weber carbs, and for 1980-1982, they were downgraded to improve fuel economy by 5 extra mpg by reducing the primary barrel Venturi diameter. Some 2.3 liter Ford Courier pickups had the 2bbl carb. The previous owner probably accidentally snagged the wrong replacement carb from either an 83-85 Fox Mustang or Capri, or an 83-87 2.3 liter Ranger pickup.

The best move forward? Stock California spec E2 spec Holley Weber carb from any CA spec Courier or Fox 2.3.

If it's auto, use Auto carb. If your car is ET78 4 speed or Tremec 140 5 speed, get a stick shift carb.

[x1986chp]

Welcome. The photos downloaded great on my cell phone.










Starting only in June1982 for all 2.3s used in Fox Capris, Rangers, Fairmont's, Granada's, and downsized Fox LTDs and Marquis, the 83 Ford Mustangs, 2.3 carb engines had the Feedback 1bbl YFA Carter, and it has the bowl controlled Mixture Control Solenoid equiped and runs off a Micro Computer Unit found on the driver's side shock tower. The ignition system gained long reach plugs, but remained Duraspark II. The engine is the same as the 2.3 Ranger 1bbl for 1983. If it's an 83, it has a shift indicator for 4 and 5 speed manual versions.

If your car is a 1982, it should be Holley Weber 2bbl equiped, with a carb body stamped with 23/27 on the Venturi casting, and they aren't feedback, and have no electronics except for the Duraspark II ignition. You'll find a replacement carb from a new old stock supply, or maybee All State Carburetor.

The 79 Foxes and Pintos and Bobcats had larger 25/27 Venturi 2bbl Holley Weber carbs, and for 1980-1982, they were downgraded to improve fuel economy by 5 extra mpg by reducing the primary barrel Venturi diameter. Some 2.3 liter Ford Courier pickups had the 2bbl carb. The previous owner probably accidentally snagged the wrong replacement carb from either an 83-85 Fox Mustang or Capri, or an 83-87 2.3 liter Ranger pickup.

The best move forward? Stock California spec E2 spec Holley Weber carb from any CA spec Courier or Fox 2.3.

If it's auto, use Auto carb. If your car is ET78 4 speed or Tremec 140 5 speed, get a stick shift carb.

You are full of knowledge and I appreciate it. Now I just need to find one

[xctasy]

See last picture in this link, on piston #435


"http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?92600-Carb-Turbo-M81-Mclaren-ready-to-start-after-15-years!/page18"

[x1986chp]

See last picture in this link, on piston #435


"http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?92600-Carb-Turbo-M81-Mclaren-ready-to-start-after-15-years!/page18"

Boy I'm confused lol. I don't think it would be as bad if the carburetor was still installed so I could visually see it.

[x1986chp]

See last picture in this link, on piston #435


"http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?92600-Carb-Turbo-M81-Mclaren-ready-to-start-after-15-years!/page18"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20383337545...emis&media=SMS

Is this what I need?

[xctasy]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20383337545...emis&media=SMS

Is this what I need?

No that is incorrectly named. That is a Holley Carter 5740 carb from a 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 liter.

It's normal for Ford items to be wrongly listed, because Ford had to change every part for specific compliance to Federal Vehicle Emissions. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do.

[x1986chp]

No that is incorrectly named. That is a Holley Carter 5740 carb from a 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 liter.

It's normal for Ford items to be wrongly listed, because Ford had to change every part for specific compliance to Federal Vehicle Emissions. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do.

Well this should be fun to track down lol

[x1986chp]

See last picture in this link, on piston #435


"http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?92600-Carb-Turbo-M81-Mclaren-ready-to-start-after-15-years!/page18"

So I found a guy willing to sell me a carb from his 1980 but it's a manual car. Will the carb still work for me or are they completely different?

[x1986chp]

No that is incorrectly named. That is a Holley Carter 5740 carb from a 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 liter.

It's normal for Ford items to be wrongly listed, because Ford had to change every part for specific compliance to Federal Vehicle Emissions. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do.

https://nationalcarburetors.com/Ford...00_p_1667.html

Sorry to keep blowing you up but I need to find one of these asap

[x1986chp]

No that is incorrectly named. That is a Holley Carter 5740 carb from a 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 liter.

It's normal for Ford items to be wrongly listed, because Ford had to change every part for specific compliance to Federal Vehicle Emissions. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26560487719...emis&media=SMS

[1981 Capri]

There seems to be no like option , like on fordsix.com . so ! wow xctasy sure knows his stuff , and thanks for being on this forum as well .

[x1986chp]

There seems to be no like option , like on fordsix.com . so ! wow xctasy sure knows his stuff , and thanks for being on this forum as well .

You think I'll get more answers there?

[gr79]

Can help a bit.
Many versions of the 5200 carb. Also known as 6500, 5210, 5220.
Very hard to find later 80's versions.
Ford used the 5200 and 6500 series.
Different apps have different internal calibrations.
Turbocharged 2.3 have a 5200 calibrated richer than n/a, as are A/C versions. All capable of 20 mpg+.

A pic of one:
https://unitedcarb.com/products/holl...500-carburetor.
May be a close match but add additional charge for no core. Has no air cleaner studs.

Note carb throttle linkage connection. Must have correct one.
Am assuming the correct accel cable and bracket are intact. The throttle cable end snaps onto the carb linkage ball.
Fuel connection location is standard on all versions.
Vac connections can be figured out. Some are common, others may be trial and error.
We did a lot of work posting here getting the M81 McLaren car back on the road.
Holley still offers Service Guide #11 p/n 36-70 for the small carbs.

Beware of sellers on ebay that are selling carbs missing parts or are too dirty to ever work right.
A 1980 5200 carb should bolt to the manifold and, if a Ford carb, will have the correct linkage arm.
Will need carb studs and nuts if they are missing of course.
Cost will vary upon how lucky one is coming across a good one. Which will cost several hundred on the average.
Electric choke is usually used on the 80's carbs. 70's carbs used water heated chokes.
The engine will start, run, drive without either type by keeping engine alive until warm and steady idle happens.

Have bought carbs on ebay, pic-a-part yards, chain parts stores. A needle in a haystack.
New ones have not been made for years.
Will help with more info as time goes on if possible.

Getting pics off an Android smartphone to a Windows 10 PC is plug and play. Shows up as another drive.
A laptop with later Windows OS should work too.
Getting that procedure to function will help a lot solving the puzzle.
Not a dead end, but is a long dark road ahead with no roadmap yet or clear picture of what is what.

Another thought is the trunk carb would possibly work with a manifold adapter and if throttle connection is correct.

[xctasy]

That is a 5.0 liter Motorcraft 2150 2bbl 1.23 carb from a 1982 Ford Mustang 5.0 liter.

In this case, it won't work. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do. I've got the code numbers for you to help. Be back in 15 minutes.

[x1986chp]

Can help a bit.
Many versions of the 5200 carb. Also known as 6500, 5210, 5220.
Very hard to find later 80's versions.
Ford used the 5200 and 6500 series.
Different apps have different internal calibrations.
Turbocharged 2.3 have a 5200 calibrated richer than n/a, as are A/C versions. All capable of 20 mpg+.

A pic of one:
https://unitedcarb.com/products/holl...500-carburetor.
May be a close match but add additional charge for no core. Has no air cleaner studs.

Note carb throttle linkage connection. Must have correct one.
Am assuming the correct accel cable and bracket are intact. The throttle cable end snaps onto the carb linkage ball.
Fuel connection location is standard on all versions.
Vac connections can be figured out. Some are common, others may be trial and error.
We did a lot of work posting here getting the M81 McLaren car back on the road.
Holley still offers Service Guide #11 p/n 36-70 for the small carbs.

Beware of sellers on ebay that are selling carbs missing parts or are too dirty to ever work right.
A 1980 5200 carb should bolt to the manifold and, if a Ford carb, will have the correct linkage arm.
Will need carb studs and nuts if they are missing of course.
Cost will vary upon how lucky one is coming across a good one. Which will cost several hundred on the average.
Electric choke is usually used on the 80's carbs. 70's carbs used water heated chokes.
The engine will start, run, drive without either type by keeping engine alive until warm and steady idle happens.

Have bought carbs on ebay, pic-a-part yards, chain parts stores. A needle in a haystack.
New ones have not been made for years.
Will help with more info as time goes on if possible.

Getting pics off an Android smartphone to a Windows 10 PC is plug and play. Shows up as another drive.
A laptop with later Windows OS should work too.
Getting that procedure to function will help a lot solving the puzzle.
Not a dead end, but is a long dark road ahead with no roadmap yet or clear picture of what is what.

Another thought is the trunk carb would possibly work with a manifold adapter and if throttle connection is correct.

I don't need it to run amazing I just need to move the car easily if I need to..... into my drive way, onto a trailer etc! Don't plan on getting smog and driving it on road.

[x1986chp]

That is a 5.0 liter Motorcraft 2150 2bbl 1.23 carb from a 1982 Ford Mustang 5.0 liter.

In this case, it won't work. Only an OEM 1982 2.3 Courier or Fox 2.3 carb will do. I've got the code numbers for you to help. Be back in 15 minutes.

Anything would greatly help.

[xctasy]

See http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...ID-numbers-etc,

Post #5

First search is E2ZE-9510-ACA 1982 2.3 liter Ford 2bbl Holley Weber carb.

Air Con and automatic C3 gearbox 1982 use a specific kind of breather return line fuel pump. But here are valid carb tags for you to specify to vet a perspective carb.



but for a non turbo 2.3 liter carb order.

1980/1981/1982 Non turbo tags are:- Tomco #2-1209, Motorcraft #CA2686, Hite #PH2BS
E1ZZ-9510-R, Tag #E1ZE-RA, Holley #R9351
E0AE-AFA
E0PE-ANA, APA, ATA,
E0ZE-AFB,AFC,BCA, JB, JC, SA, SB, SC
E0EE-NA, NC, ND, TB, TC, VA, VC, VD,
E1DE-DA,EA
E1ZE-RA,SA,
E2ZE-ACA,ADA, APA, ARA, UA, YA,

[x1986chp]

See http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...ID-numbers-etc,

Post #5

First search is E2ZE-9510-ACA 1982 2.3 liter Ford 2bbl Holley Weber carb.

Air Con and automatic C3 gearbox 1982 use a specific kind of breather return line fuel pump. But here are valid carb tags for you to specify to vet a perspective carb.



but for a non turbo 2.3 liter carb order.

1980/1981/1982 Non turbo tags are:- Tomco #2-1209, Motorcraft #CA2686, Hite #PH2BS
E1ZZ-9510-R, Tag #E1ZE-RA, Holley #R9351
E0AE-AFA
E0PE-ANA, APA, ATA,
E0ZE-AFB,AFC,BCA, JB, JC, SA, SB, SC
E0EE-NA, NC, ND, TB, TC, VA, VC, VD,
E1DE-DA,EA
E1ZE-RA,SA,
E2ZE-ACA,ADA, APA, ARA, UA, YA,

https://nationalcarburetors.com/Ford...00_p_1667.html

So this one will work?

[xctasy]

Yes. ND21209 is your best choice.


Holley Weber 6500 2.3L Ford 2 Barrel Carburetor - R 9563

You have to look for the 80 buck core charge, and specifically find the carb that suits your Automatic transmission and air conditioner if that's what you have. Do another Ebay or Facebook search and I'm sure you'll get the factors on your side.

People here would like to help you.

This info is for reference, I cannot advise you on sale...This post is about what carb you need. You can request parts wanted in the relevant sub forum here if you don't like a 310 dollar carb without a core.

A rebuild carb is available for half the price, but if you request the right carb, you may get the air cleaner and other parts required at the same time by being a shrewd purchaser.

[x1986chp]

Yes. ND21209 is your best choice.


Holley Weber 6500 2.3L Ford 2 Barrel Carburetor - R 9563

You have to look for the 80 buck core charge, and specifically find the carb that suits your Automatic transmission and air conditioner if that's what you have. Do another Ebay or Facebook search and I'm sure you'll get the factors on your side.

People here would like to help you.

This info is for reference, I cannot advise you on sale...This post is about what carb you need. You can request parts wanted in the relevant sub forum here if you don't like a 310 dollar carb without a core.

A rebuild carb is available for half the price, but if you request the right carb, you may get the air cleaner and other parts required at the same time by being a shrewd purchaser.

The tomco 2-1209 will work as well? I found one for 175$ but it says 1997-03 carburetor