Read many times the factory intake was a Performer which always seem wrong to me ... but couldn't find a pic to illustrate until now ...
Holley Contender :
Factory intake :
Read many times the factory intake was a Performer which always seem wrong to me ... but couldn't find a pic to illustrate until now ...
Holley Contender :
Factory intake :
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold ) - '79 Hatchback 2.3 (sold ) - '80 Notchback 3.3 (junk yard )
That's fairly close there!
1985 Mustang GT Mild 331 4bbl 5 spd, 1985 SEFI LTD LX AOD.
Cardomain: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565542
Mid Size LTD LX Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/groups/233213650060739/
the factory intake is neither a holley performer or holley contender, they are very similar to the eye but not the same.
It definately looks a lot closer then the Performer
Robert
1984 RS 347 Capri, To many car parts to list, check out my car build page here for the story on my car and a full parts list/setup!:
My RS in Action
Edelbrock 3721
There are differences in looks. But performance, as stated, it's basically the same. May get you a couple HP more and the Edelbrock name. but nothing like a Stealth.
1985 Mustang GT Mild 331 4bbl 5 spd, 1985 SEFI LTD LX AOD.
Cardomain: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565542
Mid Size LTD LX Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/groups/233213650060739/
You can tell the intake passages aren't the same size. The factory passages are smaller.
Tony, A FEP member here, had ported my factory intake. He said the runners were run a little be better than the factory one. And, we all know the factory ports are smaller. The runners on the Edelbrock don't have as sharp as a turn than the factory one.
1985 Mustang GT Mild 331 4bbl 5 spd, 1985 SEFI LTD LX AOD.
Cardomain: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565542
Mid Size LTD LX Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/groups/233213650060739/
And all that trickery gives the edelbrock a whopping few HP!
Last edited by PaceFever79; 09-01-2011 at 02:16 PM.
The Stealth won't pass smog here in Cali, no EGR provision.
Robert
1984 RS 347 Capri, To many car parts to list, check out my car build page here for the story on my car and a full parts list/setup!:
My RS in Action
I didn't exactly say "inner cross-section" of the intake passage. I was clearly referring to the casting as seen from the outside. If they were the same, the casting would be the same, except one would have the Holley logo and the other would not.
1985 Mustang GT Mild 331 4bbl 5 spd, 1985 SEFI LTD LX AOD.
Cardomain: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565542
Mid Size LTD LX Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/groups/233213650060739/
1984 RS 347 Capri, To many car parts to list, check out my car build page here for the story on my car and a full parts list/setup!:
My RS in Action
Contender and factory are not the same casting, that's clear, but if you look close, there are too many similarities to deny they aren't related ... overall shape of runners, cylinder numbers on runners, holes for accelerator cable bracket, etc ... way more similarities than Performer vs factory.
Remember that in those days, Ford asked Holley to design the 4180 ... won't be surprising that Holley also designed the intake using some of their own casting as a template as they did for the 4180C with the 4160.
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold ) - '79 Hatchback 2.3 (sold ) - '80 Notchback 3.3 (junk yard )
The basic runner design of the performer is still very much alike. The runners take the
same path as the other two with very little changes. The divided plenum and the basic
castings are the main difference. They are functionally similar designs.
I remember reading Ford gave Edelbrock some guff about copying their intake design
so maybe that is the reason for the slightly different casting design.
If your car runs clean and hasn't had too many mods then yes. The problem in Cali is not the sniffer test for the most part, it is the visual inspection. The way Californian bureaucrats see it is if it passes smog without the parts on the car, think how much cleaner it would run with the smog stuff on there!!!
It's a no win situation here. If you have someone that will over look the mods and they will still pass it, I say go for it but keep in mind that down the road your buddy might not always be in business and then what?
Robert
1984 RS 347 Capri, To many car parts to list, check out my car build page here for the story on my car and a full parts list/setup!:
My RS in Action
Man I am glad I don't have to mess with the Kali nutso stuff...but if I did there would be an extra engine on the stand that got put in the car for 2 months out of the 24 months in time! It is purty easy to swap the engines in these cars...if ya know what I mean.
Last edited by bwguardian; 09-01-2011 at 04:51 PM.
HAD
'82 GT monochromatic (red)...black cloth
HAVE
'85 GT vert two tone (white on charcoal)...white leather
'00 F350 two tone (white on silver)...gray cloth
'00 Excursion Limited two tone (white on tan)...tan leather...wifes ride
'08 Taurus Limited ice blue...tan leather...daughter ride
'08 Edge Limited white sand tri-coat metallic...tan leather...other daughters ride
Geeze, there goes another one. And this from someone in Houston of all places. Sorry BW,
but I've been to Houston once or twice...
California smog checks aren't nearly as difficult as you guys want to make it out to be, you
just have to know the rules. And it's only every other year. I can think of a lot of things that
bother me about what outsiders have done to California, but smog checks are way down the
list.
Cheers,
Jeff Cook
'85 GT Hatch, 5-speed T-Top, Eibachs, Konis, & ARE 5-Spokes ... '85 GT Vert, CFI/AOD, all factory...
'79 Fairmont StaWag, 5.0, 62K original miles ... '04 Azure Blue 40th Anny Mach 1, 37K original miles...
2012 F150 S-Crew 4x4 5.0 "Blue Coyote"... 65 coupe, 289 auto, Pony interior ... '67 coupe 6-cyl 4-speed ...
'68 Vert, Mexican block 307 4-speed... '71 Datsun 510 ...
And a 1-of-328 Deep Blue Pearl 2003 Marauder 4.6 DOHC, J-Mod, 4.10s and Lidio tune
Seeing some guys complain about their inspections to get a sticker come to mind. OMG the dome light doesn't work.
I preach what JACook is saying on my other forum. Know the rules and what you can get a way with and you can have a fast car/truck.
1969 Corvette 496 Roadster, Gas Guzzler
2011 Mazda 2, Gas Saver
The intake all of these are based on is the K code Ford 289 hipo intake
Kinda cool how a design dating back to 1965 remains relevant?
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