Anyone know of a good option? Both in one would be awesome and both coming off the same sensor would be even better. And the win would go to that place being the existing pressure port.
Oil pressure and oil temp gauge
Anyone know of a good option? Both in one would be awesome and both coming off the same sensor would be even better. And the win would go to that place being the existing pressure port.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
I did a search, and it seems like there are more dual purpose gauges available in the UK, but they don’t read PSI and Fahrenheit.
Makes sense since their dashboards are smaller.
Also found a nice looking gauge for airplanes, again makes sense with limited cockpit space
was just a quick search, might find something on eBay or similar
Doesn’t seem like a lot of ppl make the dual purpose gauges for cheap money.
They are out there but they seem to be expensive IMHO
79 Zephyr, 4.6L 4v/4r70w swap, with team z front and rear suspension, 8.8 and upgraded brakes and coil overs. Running Holley Terminator X Max.
That's an aircraft instrument.
A company in Uncasville CT ,Faria Beede Instruments, makes many for marine and other uses.
Here is a link to one of their pages showing a multi function gage.
https://fariabeede.com/2-pages/aftermarket.php
View the Euro line.
In the 60's as Thomas Faria they were making the tachs for the Comets and Falcon Sprints
We have serviced few of their bezel stamping presses.
Because they are for marine applications ,maybe pricey.
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Ray
86 Mustang LX 3.8 Convertible (bought new}
65 Galaxie 500 XL 390 auto
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Yes it is.Originally Posted by dynodon64
I said it was in my post.
Airplanes have engines too lol
79 Zephyr, 4.6L 4v/4r70w swap, with team z front and rear suspension, 8.8 and upgraded brakes and coil overs. Running Holley Terminator X Max.
I kind of dig the aircraft gauge. Innovate makes an oil temp and pressure gauge in one. None of the two in one gauges I saw while searching were less than $200.
'89 XR-7 5 Speed
'95 SC 5 Speed
'91 Crown Vic P72 351W
'97 Thunderbird
'85 Ford LTD Squire
Yeah, that is kind of what I have been seeing. 200 dollar gauge but all the same sad mucking with a second hookup for temp. I don't want to drill my oil pan!
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Just trying to find an oil temp gauge is not easy. Wow. Seems like something people would be more interested in.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Picking up the temp from the standard pressure port will not give you an accurate reading. The oil to the gauge is held in the same spot since it does not recirculate. Thus your temp will be slow to heat, slow to cool down. You will want to plumb into your pan for a temp gauge.
Just my thoughts.
Kenny
Yeah, pretty much what I figured. Would be nice if there were just a port sitting around on the return to the pan I could plug into.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Why wouldn't a tranny fluid temp gauge work? There are a crap ton of them.
Mike
Now stang-less.
88 Cougar 5.0
I can't see why even a temp gauge wouldn't work, they normally go near 280.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
You should be able to run the oil pressure gauge off the factory port just above the oil filter. If you need both the OEM gauge and aftermarket, then add a T fitting to run both gauges. I have done this in the past without issue. Then you should be able to use the fitting in the oil pan to run the temperature gauge sending unit if you have an aftermarket pan. If you are still running the OEM oil pan, then I have seen some use adapters to install a temperature sending unit in the drain plug fitting. Not the best for long term durability due to removal for oil changes, but it does work. Good luck!
Trey
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Interesting! I do have my aftermarket oil pressure on a t now from the OEM port. I was wondering if they made drain plug adapters. I really just want to see if it is within a good range then remove it so that might be my best move.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Just purchased a drain plug temp sensor and a simple gauge from speedway. Hopefully will have it going this weekend.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Well, installed it today, I have to say it is pretty nice and responsive. Shuttling around town and out in the countryside the oil was between 180 and 200. Kick it down and it rapidly increases in temp up to about 210 and the cools down back to 185 or so. Took it on the highway for maybe 6 miles of 70mph, still the same, heated up rapidly on the on ramp acceleration (220ish) then cooled rapid to 185 again. Got off the highway and watched oil temp rise up to almost 225 while puttering around town. Took it about 10 minutes to get back down to 185 again. The coolant temp gauge didn't move the whole time. I have movies but not sure it is worth posting them.
I will say the drain plug sensor is very responsive.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
Here are the movies
The first is climbing a 600 ft hill (you don't have to watch all 2 minutes)
https://youtu.be/C6-ONSM2NVk
The second is after 6 miles of 70 on the interstate.
https://youtu.be/KznxuxC5_e8
And the last is after driving through town at under 30 for ten minutes.
https://youtu.be/KGnM2XtdsE4
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
The last two videos are at a stop, idling at 550.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
I was surprised to see how quickly the oil temps changed.
Mike
Now stang-less.
88 Cougar 5.0
I am surprised it is not a more common gauge.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
I have a VDO brand I had to make an adapter for the sender to fit the front sump drain plug hole in my 7qt pan. I have to drive for a long time on a hot day before it even moves with a 160° thermostat and 2qts more 10w30. I think the hottest I have seen it get in that spot is 120°, maybe 140°. I realize it's not really a great place for it, but I'm not crazy about the sender or the wire terminal for it. It's like one of those old temp senders GM phased out with the round disc and the female spade terminals that slides over it and doesn't clip on very tight. That Classic Industries sender looks way better than what I have going on, if that is compatible with a VDO gauge I'd rather run that. Hmm...
Cale
It was pretty inexpensive, might be worth a try. The sender is low profile too, I was worried it would hang below the k member but it does not.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
wear at 160 degrees gets out of hand. You may want to consider warming things up a bit.
Yeah, is that oil or coolant? I have been watching it pretty closely for the last week. The engine is always between 185 and 200 and the oil is between 180 and 200 at 'operating temp'. I have a 195f thermostat. I put a ford performance water pump in it when the engine was rebuilt, perhaps it is a little too effective.
1984.5 G.T.350 5.0 CFI AOD Convertible (TRX package, loaded)
K&N filter in a stock dual snorkel, GT40 heads, Edelbrock 3721 intake, MSD 8456 Dist., MSD 8227 coil
Comp cams XE254H, hypereutectic pistons
Hooker Super Comp Shorty Equal Length Headers, catted BBK H-pipe, full custom duals
Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and strut tower brace, 3.73 rear, dura grip (both Yukon)
Ford Performance Springs, Firehawk A/S 225/55r16 on LMR TRX r390 wheels (street)
Federal 595 rs-rr 245/40r17 and 255/40r17 on OE cobra r wheels (race)
AOD rebuilt with a 6 clutch direct drum, Koline steels stacked with 8 clutches, Kevlar band, superior shift kit, new torque converter. --Everything else stock and fully functional.
The graph was referring to water temperature vs engine wear - I posted it because the discussion included mention of a 160 degree tstat.
Oil and water temps usually stay in a close relationship to the workload on an engine and the temperature of the engine.... There are oil coolers out there to help bring oil temps down, but in many scenarios (especially NA applications) an engine will be headed towards overheating and other problems before oil temps get "that" hot.
At least that's what I've seen from running oil temp gauges along with pressure and water temp on a few of the dirt track cars I helped build.
We didn't ever do anything fancy on our track cars. The cars we built ran in bursts that weren't that long and we found an oversized radiator with fans cooling it down in the pits did a good job.
Crazy to think its even possible to run a 460 at high RPM for 10-15 minutes on a 100 degree day and have a shot at keeping it in a safe operating range, but we did. Some of the other Ford, PBO, Chevy, and Mopar combos we ran fared a lot worse actually. We tried lots and lots of the wall stuff.
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