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    Iím looking at upgrading the sway bars on my 1986 SVO so itíll stay flatter than it does currently. What aftermarket bars would be best for an otherwise stock suspension?

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    You should install SFCs first. Weld-in style. Those improve handling dramatically.

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    I’m guessing those are the sub frame connectors people have mentioned to me a few times now?

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    For sure. They make a huge difference

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    What’s the difference between weld in ones and other ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayBelt View Post
    Whatís the difference between weld in ones and other ones?
    The weld in ones provide maximum support. You won't even be thinking about sway bars after these

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayBelt View Post
    I’m looking at upgrading the sway bars on my 1986 SVO so it’ll stay flatter than it does currently. What aftermarket bars would be best for an otherwise stock suspension?
    I have these on my dads LTD. Huge upgrade on that of course.
    Very flat, even without performance springs or shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OX1 View Post
    I have these on my dads LTD. Huge upgrade on that of course.
    Very flat, even without performance springs or shocks.

    https://lmr.com/item/EIB-35103/79-93...EaAgXZEALw_wcB
    I for sure like the specs for those. Think theyíre the same thickness as the ones on my grand marquis, and that thing is pretty flat, so I can only imagine how flat the SVO would be with them.

    So based on all that, Iím currently thinking a set of BBK subframe connectors (the bolt ons, to be welded in at a later date) followed by the Eibach sway bars are in my plans for the future once itís street legal. Does that sound like a decent enough plan?

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    My .02 on SFC is don't waste your time and money with most other options. Maximum Motorsports Full Length are the way to go. The Stifler setup would be my only other option besides MM.

    The bolt in SFC don't provide the same stiffness and eventually will wallow out the bolt holes over time. I understand you plan on welding at a later date, but just save the time and trouble and do it right the first time IMHO. Good Luck!
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    I'll 2nd Trey's subframe connector suggestion. They're definitely something you want done the best way possible.
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    I also agree, I had weld in sfc on 86 T-top and now on my 85 T-top. Massive difference

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    Go with MM full length, weld em' in and don't look back. Tremendous difference in how solid the car feels.
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    What’s it usually cost to have connectors welded in?

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    The SVO uses a unique front swaybar. You can't just bolt on a "standard" Fox front swaybar. The endlinks will be quite misaligned.

    Modifying the suspension on your car is tricky, because many of the parts were pulled from a Lincoln and other of the parts were made just for the SVO to be able to bridge the geometry gaps between the Lincoln and Mustang parts. The front swaybar is a good example of that. It is a totally unique part used on no other car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hidley View Post
    The SVO uses a unique front swaybar. You can't just bolt on a "standard" Fox front swaybar. The endlinks will be quite misaligned.

    Modifying the suspension on your car is tricky, because many of the parts were pulled from a Lincoln and other of the parts were made just for the SVO to be able to bridge the geometry gaps between the Lincoln and Mustang parts. The front swaybar is a good example of that. It is a totally unique part used on no other car.
    Yep I had mentioned this in one of his other threads. I had also recommended sub frame connectors first.

    Side note make sure the suspension is fully loaded with the weight of the car and the doors are closed / latched before welding.
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    Alright, I guess that unique sway bar removes that from the realm of possibilities up front. Might still do the rear at some point depending on how I find the subframe connectors and if I can figure out what size the front one is

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    The front swaybar on your car is 1.20" diameter. The arms are 6.75" long (right angle length) and the eyelet width is 45". This makes the arms 0.45" shorter than a standard Fox Mustang swaybar and the swaybar 3.375" wider.

    You can change the front swaybar, but to do this, you need to install new FCAs which have the endlink hole in a different location. Due to the construction of the SVO FCAs it is very, very difficult to move the swaybar endlink hole on them.

    If you're looking for the best handling improvement for the dollar, full length subframe conncetors and a Panhard bar are it. They make the car ride better and handle better, with an improvement in NVH.
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    Yup, the Subframe connectors will help more than the sway bars.

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    Sounds a lot like I need to get out of my BOF worldview for handling then and get me some sub frame connectors

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    As many of us have stated the full length SFC are money well spent on any Fox Body vehicle. The installation of SFC ties the uni-body together and provides a much stiffer and rigid chassis than what you currently have. That allows the suspension to actually do it's job and do it better. If after installing the SFC you still want to make improvements in handling that is fine, but as stated above you will be pleasantly surprised how much better your SVO drives, rides, and handles with just the SFC. The SVO suspension is pretty decent setup for an OEM suspension. Yes, you can make improvements in many areas depending on your needs/desires but starting with a solid/rigid foundation will allow you to make better choices and fully realize the benefits of any changes. Good Luck!
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