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    I have a 80 mustang and need to replace the dash pad. I am having trouble finding an original so aftermarket is my other option. Has anyone used any of the aftermarket dash pads and which is the better. I will also have to dye it. Where would I purchase the correct color? Wedgewood blue is the color of the interior. Thank you all.

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    I did a write up on it about a year ago. The new ones are not paintable.
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    https://coverlaymfg.com/ Used this cover on my 1986, it was red and matched great! looked good and easy to install.

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    Both of these options can be dyed/painted to match your Wedgewood interior. I will be doing the exact same thing for my 82 RS with the Wedgewood interior too.

    https://www.npdlink.com/product/dash.../173392/150502

    https://www.npdlink.com/product/dash.../181635/150502
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    I bought one from LMR...it was terrible imo. I couldn't even use it. Sent it back and just bought their dash cover.

    Texture's a tad different than the rest of dash and it slightly hangs over the edge a little, but definitely an improvement over the wavy, weird fitting pad from lmr. Paintable too


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    Quote Originally Posted by T-O-N-Y View Post
    I bought one from LMR...it was terrible imo. I couldn't even use it. Sent it back and just bought their dash cover.

    Texture's a tad different than the rest of dash and it slightly hangs over the edge a little, but definitely an improvement over the wavy, weird fitting pad from lmr. Paintable too
    Most likely the dashpad was the Urethane version. My experience with the urethane was the same, fit and finish is terrible. The pad is heavy as heck and just junk IMHO.

    I have installed two of the newer versions like I linked to above. Although not perfect or as nice as OEM, they both are very high quality with a good fit and overall finish compared to OEM. Not a cheap option, but still the best option out there for a complete replacement.

    I have the overlay on my dash pad in my 79 PC and I have used several over the years since full replacements were not available. Definitely a cost savings and the overall fit is pretty good. If on a budget, then definitely the way to go. If going for the full detail and that NEW interior look, the full dash pads are still the better choice IMHO. Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wraithracing View Post
    Both of these options can be dyed/painted to match your Wedgewood interior. I will be doing the exact same thing for my 82 RS with the Wedgewood interior too.

    https://www.npdlink.com/product/dash.../173392/150502

    https://www.npdlink.com/product/dash.../181635/150502
    Are they of equal quality since one is $50 more than the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basin Motorsports View Post
    Are they of equal quality since one is $50 more than the other?
    I need to double check, I believe the higher priced version has the metal core and the cheaper version has the molded foam core. But I could be wrong . . . Dashes Direct website doesn't give any better information to help either.
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    I think there are some discrepancies in advertising. I bought one from Summit about a year ago. It was the higher priced one. Iím pretty sure it was advertised as foam core and it did have the sheet metal frame. I did a write up on it and posted it here. pretty sure I left feed back at Summit too.

    What I got was a Dashes Direct solid molded dash pad with a sheet metal insert. It was not the old heavy style one. I bought it because it came in Red for 84. It also had a tag saying do not paint. The metal frame did not extend to the speaker area and they did sag a little. It took a little trimming to get a better fit.

    Ok, so Summit sells 2 brands. Dashes Direct and Scott Drake. The only feed back listed, was me on the DD. Letís hear some feed back on the Scott Drake version!
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    I had a dashes direct dash pad in my svo that I just sold. It was heavy and didnít feel like it had any support. But I like the fit and look for aftermarket.




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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinK View Post
    I think there are some discrepancies in advertising. I bought one from Summit about a year ago. It was the higher priced one. I’m pretty sure it was advertised as foam core and it did have the sheet metal frame. I did a write up on it and posted it here. pretty sure I left feed back at Summit too.

    What I got was a Dashes Direct solid molded dash pad with a sheet metal insert. It was not the old heavy style one. I bought it because it came in Red for 84. It also had a tag saying do not paint. The metal frame did not extend to the speaker area and they did sag a little. It took a little trimming to get a better fit.

    Ok, so Summit sells 2 brands. Dashes Direct and Scott Drake. The only feed back listed, was me on the DD. Let’s hear some feed back on the Scott Drake version!
    If my memory is correct, the one we just put in my buddy's SSP was the foam core unit. A slight sag or bow to it, but nothing like the urethane version in my experience. I did send a PM to NPD to try and verify the difference between the two on their site that I linked to.

    Quote Originally Posted by ddx77 View Post
    I had a dashes direct dash pad in my svo that I just sold. It was heavy and didn’t feel like it had any support. But I like the fit and look for aftermarket.




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    Pretty sure that is the solid urethane version with no foam or steel core in it. I thought it was TOO heavy and too wavy for me. I need to check the other dash pad at the shop right now to see which core it has in it. Should be able to post that tomorrow.
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    I bought one from foxresto.com and am very impressed with fit and finish. It has a plastic core with molded foam and vinyl as original. It was dyed a light blue and sent to a customer that didn’t like the color and returned it. Been thinking of buying another to replace the red urethane piece of junk in my convertible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wraithracing View Post
    Most likely the dashpad was the Urethane version. My experience with the urethane was the same, fit and finish is terrible. The pad is heavy as heck and just junk IMHO.

    I have installed two of the newer versions like I linked to above. Although not perfect or as nice as OEM, they both are very high quality with a good fit and overall finish compared to OEM. Not a cheap option, but still the best option out there for a complete replacement.

    I have the overlay on my dash pad in my 79 PC and I have used several over the years since full replacements were not available. Definitely a cost savings and the overall fit is pretty good. If on a budget, then definitely the way to go. If going for the full detail and that NEW interior look, the full dash pads are still the better choice IMHO. Good Luck!
    Very well could have been urethane. Definitely had a urethane based feel to it. Kind of rubbery lol. I'd like to ditch the dash cover though so if there is a better fitting pad available then I'm interested as well.

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    Thanks everyone. What kills me is the owner before me put in aftermarket speakers and put holes in the pad where the speakers are. other then that the dash is clean.

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    Some recent good feedback for Dashes Direct

    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...light=dash+pad
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    Here are some pictures of the dash.
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    Matt, here is a good write up that Mike did for repairing dash pads.
    http://mikemartinelli.com/index.php?...g-dash-pad-fix

    OEM pads are out there, you just have to hunt for them, I've bought a few OEM's the past few years.
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    I spent over 30 minutes on the phone today with Matthew Laszaic of NPD. He is also a member here on FEP. He called to discuss the difference between the two dash pads I linked to above. Matthew if you are reading this I want to thank you once again for reaching out to me personally and then spending an unlimited amount of time discussing the dash pads as well as many other things Fox and Four Eye related. Great guy to visit with, a fellow FEP member, and a fellow Four Eye owner.

    The quick answer to the million dollar question is that the Higher priced dash pad @$250 is the Dashes Direct vinyl wrapped version with a foam core. The slightly less expensive @$200 dash pad is an import vinyl wrapped version that also has a foam core. Matthew was going to visually check both to see if either had a metal insert that I believe may be present, but I might be wrong.

    His opinion is that both are very good quality and fit very well, so either choice works. I will follow up with any additional information Matthew is able to provide. I will also check the dash pad we have for Erratic50's Saleen clone to verify which pad that one is also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tORMENtOR View Post
    Matt, here is a good write up that Mike did for repairing dash pads.
    http://mikemartinelli.com/index.php?...g-dash-pad-fix

    OEM pads are out there, you just have to hunt for them, I've bought a few OEM's the past few years.
    I bought this one last Sept. on eBay for $125.00. There are deals out there if you look.

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    So, current count is at least 4 different dash pads are available today for the Mustang. Which one is Scott Drake?
    1. High quality foam core
    2. Import foam core
    3. Metal core light weight urathane
    4. Wavey heavy urathane.
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    Thank you. Is the Scott Drake quality?

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    Thanks Joe. Mikes fix may be a good idea for now.

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    I really need to start my own Build Thread to start showing you what it is I am doing that would help others here. Just like this thread here.
    After watching "Just Dashes" video on restoring factory dashes of all makes, I decided to to do the same with my dash out of an my 83'.

    I removed my dash and used a heat gun to strip off the old vinyl, comes off very easy. The vinyl was very hard and brittle, but gets so soft that it peels right off. After it cools down, it's get brittle again. Then after that, it's just a matter of sanding down the cracks and filling them in. I also used some spray foam to fill in where the speakers were, and added some fiberglass screen over them to fill it back in. Then I went to "Your Auto Trim Store, and purchased several samples of their vinyl, until I found a very close match of color and grain. Next process will be to make an oven to heat up the vinyl to allow it to be stretched over and vacuum formed on. I plan on showing this process on my YouTube channel.

    That's the basic idea here. This will then be a factory dash pad recovered.Name:  PICT0504.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodon64 View Post
    I really need to start my own Build Thread to start showing you what it is I am doing that would help others here. Just like this thread here.
    After watching "Just Dashes" video on restoring factory dashes of all makes, I decided to to do the same with my dash out of an my 83'.

    I removed my dash and used a heat gun to strip off the old vinyl, comes off very easy. The vinyl was very hard and brittle, but gets so soft that it peels right off. After it cools down, it's get brittle again. Then after that, it's just a matter of sanding down the cracks and filling them in. I also used some spray foam to fill in where the speakers were, and added some fiberglass screen over them to fill it back in. Then I went to "Your Auto Trim Store, and purchased several samples of their vinyl, until I found a very close match of color and grain. Next process will be to make an oven to heat up the vinyl to allow it to be stretched over and vacuum formed on. I plan on showing this process on my YouTube channel.

    That's the basic idea here. This will then be a factory dash pad recovered.Name:  PICT0504.jpg
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    Wow! Super cool!
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