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    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy View Post
    Hey there Darran. I have just loved this from the very beginning. Having the same photobucket matters as you though.

    One question.

    The closest I've gotten to seeing your engine decal is this.



    Q1: What kind of engine tag code does a 1980 engine have anyway?

    Q2: It's also black, not blue like the others I've seen.



    I'm sure that's because of the 1982 model year unbalance and non segamatized, non swiss cheesed later manifold revision
    xctasy, that picture you posted is the closest I have been to the calibration sticker myself. I had not even laid eyes on it! It had some black overspray on it but it flaked off easily with a fingernail.

    Similar to our other early 79 and there is some hand writing on it but this does not appear to have anything written in the right side. That side was still exposed to the road and elements so maybe it faded off over the years...


    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...E/IMG_5952.JPG

    Here is the one from our other 79 with the 2.8:


    http://s1337.photobucket.com/user/82...52397.jpg.html

    Also to note, this car has the high altitude option so I expect some minor differences. Not sure exactly what but likely the carburetor. The reproduction emissions decals available are not the correct ones to this.


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    Thank you so much. I REALLY appreciate it.

    It matches in with what Fox Chassis had for the 79 2.8, but the 5.0 looks like a new "Anumal".


    see Page 1 , post #25.

    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...Identification

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    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy View Post
    Thank you so much. I REALLY appreciate it.

    It matches in with what Fox Chassis had for the 79 2.8, but the 5.0 looks like a new "Anumal".

    see Page 1 , post #25.

    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...Identification
    Glad it could help.

    For our car, I dug a little more into the code after looking at it. I read the information in the other thread and Fox noted looking at the build sheets. Checking my scan of ours and the breakdown by FoxChassis, and I see the following for our engine:

    I have no idea what the hand written "450M" on the decal signifies.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post

    Line B
    Emission Control - 8 = high-altitude emissions package
    Imm Block Heater - [blank] = no immersion engine block heater
    Engine, Tag Number - KJ304AB = 49-state calibration (K), Thermactor emissions with A/C (J), 5.0L engine (304), release level AB
    Transmission, Code - W = C4 automatic transmission
    Transmission, Part Number - D9ZP DA = automatic transmission (P) originally engineered for 1979 (D9) Mustang (Z), release level DA
    Also in that thread, Fox doesn't look to have our car listed. The 79- KJ304AB in his list states "CA Emissions" where our car is a Colorado car with high-altitude emissions as noted.

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    I wonder if that is an identifier of either the person who assembled the engine or test ran it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW Rider View Post
    I wonder if that is an identifier of either the person who assembled the engine or test ran it.
    Not sure Ed. The 2.8 had what should be the correct info to get the calibration number from the book David posted about in the thread xctasy shared: http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...le-Calibration

    I have to expect David's 79 Cobra is from Dearborn and they at least printed the calibration tags out

    Quote Originally Posted by 79mustangcobra View Post
    I have to say that without Foxchassis and Jeff(85GTTops) I would be as lost as a goose in the fog on some of this stuff. I have to thank both of them for their great help!

    Well I found on Ebay a factory emission guide for 1979 and 1980 Fords. It covers every engine and every calibration along with the part #s. It is very sweet!

    I was confused at how to find my Mustangs Vehicle Calibration, so I found out and scanned it in for all of you to see.



    So looking at this



    My Calibration is this (9-11A-RO) Date: 6-7-78

    I had thought of making a reproduction of the decals possibly but would also like to see the correct vacuum diagram like is shown for David's car.

    I glanced through RED'78's site but there are a lot of 302 variations to look through to figure out which might be ours. Deduction versus decoding may be difficult.

    The various 79 calibration vacuum diagrams are here (BTW xctasy I noted there is one 3.3 scanned in here if you look through them):
    http://myzephyrs.com/VAC_5.0/index.html

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    RPM SETTING (PLANT OPTION) peeps.

    A valid 1979 5.0 code would be like

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    Cougar/Thunderbird

    5.0L KC326BB
    5.0L KF326BA (Canada)
    5.0L KF327AA
    5.0L KF327BA
    5.0L KF327BA (Canada)
    5.0L KJ304AB (CA emissions)
    5.0L KJ326AA
    5.0L KJ326BB
    5.0L KJ327BA
    5.0L XJ326AA (CA emissions)
    5.0L XJ326BA (CA emissions)



    "450M" can only be the Median rpm the 1979 5.0 engine is set at when being calibrated. Its been rewritten on the tag in the wrong spot. No pen details are used in tags, they are a clip the ticket thing.

    The 450 code for engines is part of the the Lima, Ohio Big block engine series for 1979, and its definitely not one of those. I'd say the 5.0 is from the Cleveland 2 plant, 4.2's normally from the Windsor plant.

    464L is the lower rpm the 3.3 engine was calibrated at.


    See the Red 78' info



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    Hi Alt and CA emmissions are the same with the altitude compensator retuned for rpm. Nice work on getting the info...lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW Rider View Post
    I wonder if that is an identifier of either the person who assembled the engine or test ran it.
    Yes. Retune RPM mean is 450, and its a KJ 304 AB California spec to cover the Colorado cold start at altitude enissions. The tuning for destination states of California or Colorado was later on by the fender mounted compensator, or by using the sterner Cali Smog package to cover off cold start emissions. Canada option would have been the salted road durability package, which wouldnt have required all the CA emissions stuff. There wasnt a Rust Belt emissions package, as everything had to meet the 50000 mile durability or life time durability requirements for the heat stoves, catalysts and all the other 65 or more smog parts the 79s ran. Hi Alt emissions are based on hyperbarometric chamber and/or frozen over night cycles in hydrocarbon containers with bag houses. The tag ment the Government was serious about smog.

    Nice to see 140 hp instead of 129 like some of the earlier M ii's were slugged with. Shame it went down to 120, 118, 115 and then 111 with the three versions of the 80, 81 and 82 auto 4.2's. That must have sucked for anyone who had ever driven an S code 390 or M code 351 4V automatic 69 Stang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy View Post
    Hi Alt and CA emmissions are the same with the altitude compensator retuned for rpm. Nice work on getting the info...lot of fun.
    Thanks for all of the info too. Not sure in the big scheme it means anything to this car other than getting a replacement decal to put on but it is neat to discover these little nuances. The CA emissions decal on the valve cover will be more of a challenge to redo or find I am sure. It may just get the standard off the shelf replacement. I doubt any would know the difference. Ever.

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    Wink TRW Steering Rack

    Over the last while I have been getting the last of the loose take off pieces either cleaned up, refurbished, repainted or even just cataloged and put away.

    The steering rack was one items I knew I still had more work on. The rebuilt Cardone one I bought and put on our other '79 five or so years ago was painted black by them. While the originals look bare or as the one off this car was - a type of machine grey, my intent was to keep this one original looking. And i did not want to put this away as is knowing I had more work on it.

    This is where it had left off:

    Quote Originally Posted by 82GTforME View Post
    Speaking of the TRW rack from the car. Again oversprayed in a quick hiding black paint coat like a lot of the undercarriage and surface rusted areas.

    After cleaning, scrubbing, and going it over once pretty decently, I have decided I am going to retry this rack in the car. There do not seem to be rebuilt TRW racks on the shelves anymore and I am not enthused to send this out through RockAuto from Canada for a rebuild. I think if I had to rebuild or replace, I would replace with the Ford rack along with the hoses and the pump to do it right.

    For now this one seems tight. Maybe this shows only 17k miles... I will spend some more time detailing and refinishing but this is a good starting point.





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    Default TRW Steering Rack Completion

    Easiest for me to get the last of the rust off would be by submerging it in rust convertor. I did not really want to introduce any liquid into it so I took a more careful approach


    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...E/IMG_5825.JPG

    I removed the bent lines and boots from the rack to better get into the tight spots. I expected a ferrule type compression fittings on these but found they had coppery looking hard gaskets. Here's hoping they don't leak in the future after being disturbed!


    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...E/IMG_5827.JPG

    I used a die grinder and wire wheeled and end brushed what and where I could. The steel side of the rack had some pits in it so carefully used soaked rags of Evaporust to get as much as I could.


    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...E/IMG_5846.JPG

    Compared to what it looked like before, I would say it came out alright.



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    Not wanting all this hard work to deteriorate quick once on the road, I decided to prep and clearcoat it. I used this on the transmission case on the Tangerine car among other items and was happy with the results.



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    I greased the external gear and the inner tie rod ends and put everything back together. Looks good and now I can say it is done and ready. If time was money into a part like this I could have bought a couple of replacements That is the way it is for me though!



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    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...E/IMG_5863.JPG

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    Looking great! I might use some of your tricks on the light surface rust dust on my new find.

    Sent from my LG-H873 using Tapatalk
    -Current owner of a one owner(I'm now the second) 1983 GT 5.0 with only 47000 miles.

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