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    Default No buck Tags, but Found the Build Sheets - 1985 GT T-Top Hatch

    I got this car back in May, and its getting close to finishing, and I wanted to see if there is any way to get buck tags, or at least the information that the buck tags would normally give, with the build sheets? The buck tags were gone since I got the car, but the following pics are of the build sheets that were found by the previous owner.

    Can anyone get the information from these?

    Here is the VIN: 1FABP28M9FF196801

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    85 GT Hatchback, T-Tops. 2012 Coyote 5.0L Swap, T56 Magnum, GT550 Dept of Boost kit, with Eaton M122 SC, RAM 11" Powergrip clutch, BBK Long Tubes/OR X-Pipe, Flowmaster Axle Back, Stifflers DS Loop, and Rear X-member, AJE Tube Crossmember with AJE-Mod Mounts, 3.73 Posi 8.8, 5 lug Cobra 13" fr and 12.6" rear disc swap, 2004 Hydroboost Swap, MM SubFrame Connectors, MM Panhard Bar, MM front A-Arms, MM rear control arms, MM CC Plates, MM Coilovers w/Koni dampeners, MM Torque Arm (soon to be installed).

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    I can tell you most of the codes the buck tag should have. The codes that I do not know the meaning of are the ones that I would not be able to say yea or nah. Nobody makes repro buck tags for the Fox cars though.

    I will need a single large image of the build sheet to proceed.
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    Can you message me your email, and I can send you the pics I have at full size (about 5mb each). Is it ok that its in two pieces? In order to get close enough to read, I had to do it in two pics.

    Thanks!
    85 GT Hatchback, T-Tops. 2012 Coyote 5.0L Swap, T56 Magnum, GT550 Dept of Boost kit, with Eaton M122 SC, RAM 11" Powergrip clutch, BBK Long Tubes/OR X-Pipe, Flowmaster Axle Back, Stifflers DS Loop, and Rear X-member, AJE Tube Crossmember with AJE-Mod Mounts, 3.73 Posi 8.8, 5 lug Cobra 13" fr and 12.6" rear disc swap, 2004 Hydroboost Swap, MM SubFrame Connectors, MM Panhard Bar, MM front A-Arms, MM rear control arms, MM CC Plates, MM Coilovers w/Koni dampeners, MM Torque Arm (soon to be installed).

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    Sent an email through this site. I would prefer one pic of the entire sheet.
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    Ok, will do
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    Here is a full size version of the build sheet, all in one picture

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    85 GT Hatchback, T-Tops. 2012 Coyote 5.0L Swap, T56 Magnum, GT550 Dept of Boost kit, with Eaton M122 SC, RAM 11" Powergrip clutch, BBK Long Tubes/OR X-Pipe, Flowmaster Axle Back, Stifflers DS Loop, and Rear X-member, AJE Tube Crossmember with AJE-Mod Mounts, 3.73 Posi 8.8, 5 lug Cobra 13" fr and 12.6" rear disc swap, 2004 Hydroboost Swap, MM SubFrame Connectors, MM Panhard Bar, MM front A-Arms, MM rear control arms, MM CC Plates, MM Coilovers w/Koni dampeners, MM Torque Arm (soon to be installed).

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    Sorry, uploaded here it gets reduced. You can download the full sized version here:

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    This is the best I can do. The alignment of the codes aren't quite right using the vbulletin tags though.

    The codes in red may or may not have been on the tag. The "DF" and "ST" codes probably were on the tag. (So far, all 1985 Capri and Mustang tags had both.)

    There was probably a four-digit rotations number on the end of the 2nd line of the tag (the four green questions marks) but there is no way to know what the number was. That number was used for the order of the cars going down the body & paint line at DAP, and it was not recorded by Ford. It may have been written in grease pencil somewhere on the bare chassis but no way to know for sure. That number is different than, and not related to, the rotations number on the build sheet.

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    196801 61B M TR ????
    1BB         DF  ST
          04    HB
    GT        MBW  01
    EL-A   04 1 X 3 NLR 4
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    And the door tag (weights are best guess according to database)...
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    Build Sheet
    Line X
    850325 1703 = sheet print on March 25, 1985 at 5:03 PM

    Line A
    Rotations Number - 7064 = trim & chassis rotations #7064
    Line - Z = Mustang model line
    VIN - P28FF196801
    Body Type - 61B = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
    Body, Tops, Roof - H = T-roof
    Ext, Paint, Body - 1B = Medium Charcoal Metallic exterior paint color
    Ext, Tutone - [blank] = no tu-tone paint
    Int, Trim - PA = cloth Articulated Sport seating (P), Charcoal/Grey interior color (A)
    Int, Deviation - [blank] = no interior trim deviation
    I.B. Color - A = Charcoal instrument panel color
    Type of Order - 2 = Stock order
    Region & District - 74 = Seattle district sales office
    Special Order - [blank] = not a special order

    Line B
    Emission Control - [blank] = no special emissions package
    Engine - M = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
    Trans - 2 = Borg Warner 'T-5' 5-speed manual overdrive transmission
    Air Cond - [blank] = no air conditioner
    Engine, Tag Number - FK331BB = 49-state calibration (F), Thermactor emissions with or without A/C (K), 5.0L engine (331), release level BB
    Transmission, Part Number - E5ZRFA = manual transmission (R) originally engineered for 1985 (E5) Mustang (Z), release level FA
    Seats, Type - 6 = Articulated Sport seating
    Belts, Color - A = Charcoal/Grey seat belts

    Line C
    Imm Block Heater - [blank] = no engine block immersion heater

    Line D
    Groups, Décor, Appear - B = GT
    Electrical, Wipers - W = interval windshield wipers
    Electrical, Defroster - E = electric rear defrost
    Electrical, Audio, Radio - S = AM/FM stereo
    Electrical, Audio, Spkrs - Z = four speakers with premium sound system
    Electrical, Lights, Light Group - V = visibility/light group
    Power Aids, Deklid Release - F = remote decklid release
    Power Aids, Locks - [blank] = no power door locks
    Power Aids, Windows - [blank] = no power side windows
    Glass, Tint - T = tinted glass
    Mouldings, Rocker - [blank] = no rocker panel moulding
    Air Dam - G = GT front bumper cover/air dam
    Road Abrasion - [blank] = no road abrasion coating
    Carpet/Mats - G = grey floor mats
    Console - C = console
    Mirror, Outside - A = dual remote control mirrors

    Line E
    Battery - DC = heavy duty battery (54 amp-hr)
    Driveline, Speed-O, Metric - [blank] = no metric speedometer
    Driveline, Rear Axle, Tag Number - 274F = 2.73:1 axle ratio, Traction-Lok (limited slip) differential
    Suspension, Springs, Front, Left - MOL = O front left spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Front, Right - MOL = O front right spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Rear, Left - MID = B rear left spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Rear, Right - MID = B rear right spring code
    Pkgs, Hndlng - X = Handling Suspension package

    Line F
    Wheel Area, Wheel Covers - Z = wheel covers for 15x7 wheels
    Wheel Area, Wheels 1/2 - ZZ = 15" x 7" cast aluminum ("10-hole")
    Tires, Size - 22560VR = P225/60VR15 tires
    Tires, Color - [blank] = black sidewall
    Tires, Spare - M = mini spare
    Tires, Quantity - 4 = four full size tires
    Speed Control - [blank] = no cruise control
    Front End, Steering Wheel, Type of Col - T = tilt steering wheel
    Hood Scoop - [blank] = no hood scoop
    Frt License Plate Bracket - X = front license plate bracket

    Line G
    Accent Stripe, Type/Color - G2 = Dark Charcoal hood stripe, Dark Charcoal "Mustang GT" hatch decal
    VIN - 1FABM9
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    Thanks so much, this is awesome! I also took a high-res picture of my door sticker, and even though its hard to read, I figured that you might be able to zoom in and see if it helped to fill out a couple fields that you weren't able to see, and see if it gave any more information (not that you haven't already given me a ton of data, I just thought if it was easy to do, it might be of help).

    Here is a link to the full resolution picture:
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    Thanks again, I really appreciate it,
    Dean
    85 GT Hatchback, T-Tops. 2012 Coyote 5.0L Swap, T56 Magnum, GT550 Dept of Boost kit, with Eaton M122 SC, RAM 11" Powergrip clutch, BBK Long Tubes/OR X-Pipe, Flowmaster Axle Back, Stifflers DS Loop, and Rear X-member, AJE Tube Crossmember with AJE-Mod Mounts, 3.73 Posi 8.8, 5 lug Cobra 13" fr and 12.6" rear disc swap, 2004 Hydroboost Swap, MM SubFrame Connectors, MM Panhard Bar, MM front A-Arms, MM rear control arms, MM CC Plates, MM Coilovers w/Koni dampeners, MM Torque Arm (soon to be installed).

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