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    I'm looking into purchasing some new seats for my GT. The originals are in pretty good shape but my back isn't 😜. I was wondering if any of you out there had any experience with them?

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    My only experience with Procar was decades ago (and I do mean decades!) with their offerings for the VW Beetle vehicles. That was way back in the late 80's early 90's. I know they have upped their game since then and have better seat offerings as well as better variety.

    Years ago when I had my shop, I sold a brand of seats called Monaco. They were imported from Europe, basically a Recaro knock off of the LS seats. Were pretty well made and available in real leather for less than $1K for the pair even for the top of the line models. I actually still have a pair of those in my PC rather than the real Recaros since they were missing when I bought the car. Pretty good seats, but unfortunately they are out of business now.

    Corbeau seats are fairly decent for the price. The biggest issue in my experience is sitting in the actual seats before buying. Unfortunately so many of these seats are built for smaller framed people and if you aren't that size, then they are not very comfortable. I am just under 6'2" and weigh about 240lbs and many of these seats are just too small and tight for me.

    The Elite is a good looking seat and appears to be a comparable size to the OEM Ford seats including the Sport seats and the Recaros so they might work pretty well. Good Luck!
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    I have a Procar Elite 1100 (non-lumbar) drivers seat.
    Fit fine, durable hd vinyl. Comfortable everyday driving. Trips? Dunno.

    Am going to add seat heater kit under the covers.
    A trial with a strap on type proved very nice in midwestern area cold weather.

    My 85 LTD LX had the manual pump up lumbar similar if not the same as the SVO's. Worked great.
    Newer Mustangs and others had powered versions.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-1993-Fo...-/190507396298
    https://www.google.com/search?q=in+s...ih=677#imgrc=_
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...&bih=715&dpr=1

    Maybe some of this stuff can be retrofitted to your current seats.

    Talk about off the shelf items;
    Read someone went to a medical supply and bought blood pressure cuffs....
    Others- old towels, memory foam.

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    I'm currently using a block of foam wrapped in an old Mexican blanket that just oozes style. I'm a smaller framed guy.. 5'9" and 155lbs. I've got one ruptured disc and two compressed. I love driving but with the stockers I find I just can't make trips longer than half an hour. My uncle has some Corbeau GTS 2's in his Saleen and they are gorgeous but uncomfortable for me.

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    People with bad backs have traditionally only been catered for by early bench seat like cushy 70's to early 80's Olds Cutlasses, PC Vauxhall Cresta's or some French cars. Seat, suspension phasing is the issue. The 3 rd dynamic is shape, an issue for people with injured backs. A sports seat won't work right for you, IMHO.


    GMR pioneered the proving ground model with the ride verses the suspension system

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWoAx7fwXng

    Its the International Ride Index, and it shows the road surface causing the vehicle response. GM Research found in any given road surface, the vehicle response was equal to the quarter car spring model.

    I did rough roughness surveys for 24 years.

    Seat phasing is what takes care of the jolt, and suspension compliance isn't able to be traded off if your car has 300 rwhp like yours, Oberu.

    I have two jobs, one is delivering 6172 pounds of bread at w/e's over the 8 hour morning shift as a truck driver.

    I learned from a really good weight lifter some techniques, but my most enjoyable has been seeing how people injured cope.


    My supervisor uses a kidney belt, and has a typical air-ride seat,


    Your in your case, the solution is


    1. basically a softer tuck'n'roll 1980-1982 Thunderbird seat as used in the Daytona Mustang, which takes the jolt out, and provides the right shape for a person who cannot tollerate the modern technically correct anatomical seat. Any one with a back injury is no longer able to go for firm seats.

    Quote Originally Posted by gr79 View Post
    Couple more pics of the Daytona at a different angle, taken 8/2013 at the FWHQ show;








    2. you'l have to look at a Bose Ride Team's vibration-cancelling seat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiY68lVI3j8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9iHph-W-qM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cffHXhbIfaU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1RyhBzS3PU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAsqmkvbIWQ

    Its a truck system. No way can it fit your car unless its specfically engineered, but you can do it.

    In your car, you'll have to have it mounted in the back seat foot well, and cantilevered. That will ensure you can keep the suspension taut, and allow you to set you back where you wan't it.

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    Drove my Ranger to work today.
    The oem drivers 60/40 bottom developed a lean toward the door.
    Installed a 87 Escort GT drivers seat a while back.
    That seat has a nice lumbar bump built in.
    Am also 5-9 170 the seat is a treat after too dam many long days on the shop floor.

    Do take all the junk out of back pants pockets. Sitting on a wallet lump can cause back problems.

    Have driven sit down forklifts all day for years. Even when new, not all seats are good on them.
    Good indoor seats have multi adjustments, cloth, armrests.
    The spare trucks that no one wants to drive have the cheap seats.
    Otherwise, the machine is the same as the others.
    Whoever specs non adjust too upright backed no armrest vinyl base seats should sit in on one for a few months or years.
    Or even worse, torn and wore out. Should be considered a safety issue.
    An operator needs comfort for productivity, no the office sees good seats as a waste of money.
    Truck drivers and heavy equip operators need good ones too.
    But why make a worker happy? Do they get off on making workers sweat and hurt?
    They sure dont plant their bums on cheap desk chairs.
    Yah they can pay the doctor bills not me. But who wants them at all?

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