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    Default Ford Motorsports Door Tag help

    I recently picked up a '83 GT and has this Ford Motorsports tag where the door tag should be. Also have a picture of the buck tag. Previous owner swears that it was a former New Mexico Highway Patrol car, but I don't really think so. The car is from NM and is rust free. Also has a 180 KPH speedo.

    Can anyone shed some light on this Mustang?

    VIN: 1FABP28F4DF123687

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    Well unless they can time travel at Ford, 85 engines don't go stock in 83models. So someone has done something

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    Buck tag says nothing about being a ssp .
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    Get a heat gun and slowly heat the FMS tag up until it's soft and the adhesive has melted: it should peal off easily. The door tag is obviously there.

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    I've never seen a tag like that.
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    The date on the Motorsport sticker is well into the 1984 model year, by about three to four months, but the buck tag and VIN are definitely a 1983 model, and and an early model at that. And then there is the "1985" on the tag. To me, it looks like an era Motorsport bumper sticker that somebody stuck into a typewriter and typed out the info for an engine that was installed for the owner or by the owner about a year after the car produced.

    Could have been "used by" the NMSP but not likely. Hatchback GTs could not be ordered as SSPs. However, "used by" is not saying it's an "SSP". The type of buck tag shown above wouldn't indicate a special order (SSP) any way so you can't say looking at that. Departments could theoretically buy and use whatever they wanted, they didn't have to be 5.0L coupe with an SSP option. They also used leased vehicles, confiscated vehicles, etc. More than likely the 'used by the NMSP' was a tall tale spun by the previous owner to sell the sizzle, or the owner before that and the person you purchased the car from believed it.

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    MUSTANG = Mustang model line
    123687 = 23,687th 1983 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly
    61B = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
    F = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
    019_ = body & paint rotations #019_
    1BB = Medium Charcoal Metallic exterior paint color
    DF
    ST
    AC = manual air conditioner
    04 = YES rear defrost, YES rear wing
    HB = heated backlite (rear defrost)
    S = speed control (cruise control)
    GT = GT model/trim level
    BR = black rocker panel
    WD = power side windows (W), power door locks (D)
    MOD = manual overdrive transmission (Tremec 4-speed 'SROD')
    03 = rear-facing non-functional hood scoop
    V = visibility (light group)
    ELECTRIC
    -A = Black interior trim color
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    I would be interested to see if there is a VIN stamping on this engine. HP 4796 obviously doesn't stand for horsepower, perhaps 1985 doesn't indicate the year? (especially since this label is dated Nov 83)
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    Engine will be pulled for cleaning and broken cam. Will look to see what the numbers are on the engine, but with wheat harvest coming up don't know when that will be. Could this be a crate motor from Ford and that was the tag they sent with it? Also found the build sheet in the car today. Would that be any help here?

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    Factory build/broadcast sheet will not help with the Motorsport sticker but please post it anyway. I can decode it.
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    The build sheet is decaying and quite faded. I tried to get the best pictures to see the type but I don't know how well it will show up. Thanks for decoding all of this, really appreciate it.

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    The last piece of the sheet...

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    VIN
    1FA = Ford vehicle manufactured in USA by Ford Motor Company
    B = active belts, no airbags
    P = passenger car
    28 = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
    F = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
    4 = VIN check digit
    D = 1983 model year
    F = Dearborn Assembly
    123687 = 23,687th 1983 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly

    Build Sheet
    Line A
    Rotations Number - 0810 = trim & chassis rotations #0810
    Line - Z = Mustang model line
    VIN - P28DF123687 = [VIN decoded above]
    Body Type - 61B = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
    Body, Tops, Roof - [blank] = no sunroof, no T-roof
    Ext, Paint, Body - 1B = Medium Charcoal Metallic
    Ext, Tutone - [blank] = no tu-tone paint
    Int, Trim - HA = cloth Functional Sport seating (H), Black interior trim color (A)
    Int, Deviation - [blank] = no interior trim deviation
    Int, Inst Bd - A = Black instrument panel color
    Type of Order - 5 = Fleet order
    Region & District - 74 = Seattle district sales office
    Special Order - [blank] = not a special order

    Line B
    Emission Control - [blank] = no special emissions package
    Engine - F = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
    Trans - 4 = Tremec 'SROD' 4-speed manual overdrive transmission
    Air Cond - M = manual air conditioner
    Engine, Tag Number - DK333AB = 49-state calibration (D), Thermactor emissions with or without A/C (K), 5.0L engine (333), release level AB
    Transmission, Part Number - E2ZR AA = manual transmission (R) originally engineered for 1982 (E2) Mustang (Z), release level AA
    Seats, Type - 5 = Sport Performance seating
    Belts, Color - A = Black seat belts

    Line C
    Imm Block Heater - [blank] = no immersion engine block heater

    Line D
    Groups, Protection - ? = appearance protection group?
    Electrical, Wipers - W = interval windshield wipers
    Electrical, Defroster - E = electric rear window defroster
    Electrical, Audio, Radio - R = AM/FM stereo cassette radio
    Electrical, Audio, Spkrs - Z = four speakers with premium sound system
    Electrical, Lights, Light Group - V = visibility/light group
    Power Aids, Locks - P = power locks
    Power Aids, Windows - S = power side windows
    Glass, Tint - T = tinted glass
    Mouldings, Rocker - [blank] = no rocker panel moulding
    Road Abrasion - [blank] = no road abrasion coating
    Carpet/Mats - [blank] = no floor mats
    Console - B = console
    Mirror, Vanity - [blank] = no passenger side vanity mirror
    Mirror, Outside - A = dual mirrors

    Line E
    Driveline, Speed-O, Metric - [blank] = no metric speedometer
    Driveline, Rear Axle, Tag Number - 271D = 3.08:1 axle ratio, Traction-Lok (limited slip) differential
    Suspension, Springs, Front, Left - L0N = L front left spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Front, Right - L0N = L front right spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Rear, Left - POK = J rear left spring code
    Suspension, Springs, Rear, Right - POK = J rear right spring code
    Pkgs, Hndlng - X = Handling Suspension package

    Line F
    Wheel Area, Wheel Covers - K = TRX wheel center caps
    Wheel Area, Wheels 1/2 - TX = forged aluminum TRX wheels
    Tires, Size - 22055R = P220/55R390 tires (Michelin TRX)
    Tires, Color - [blank] = black sidewalls
    Speed Control - S = fingertip speed control
    Front End, Steering Wheel, Wheel Color - A = Black steering wheel
    Front End, Steering Wheel, Type of Col - T = tilt steering wheel
    Hood Scoop - L = GT hood scoop
    Frt License Plate Bracket - T = front license plate bracket

    Line G
    Accent Stripe, Type/Color - 3 = Black "GT" hood decal, Black "GT" fender and trunk/hatch decal
    VIN - 1FABF4 = [VIN decoded above]
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    What the door tag should should be....

    Door Tag
    Date - 10/82 = October 1982 scheduled build
    Exterior Paint Colors - 1B = Medium Charcoal Metallic
    DSO - 74 = Seattle district sales office
    Body - 61B = Mustang 3-dr hatchback
    In Trim - HA = cloth Functional Sport seating (H), Black interior trim color (A)
    A/C - A = manual air conditioner
    R - 7 = AM/FM stereo cassette radio
    S - [blank] = no sunroof, no T-roof
    Ax - Z = 3.08:1 axle ratio, Traction-Lok (limited slip) differential
    Tr - 4 = Tremec 'SROD' 4-speed manual overdrive transmission
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    JJ = rear spring
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    Were any racing schools located in the Washington state Seattle area? Since this is a fleet order, and the Motorsport decal is hand typed with an engine ID (most likely for maintenance records), my first guess would be a racing school, or something similar.
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    What other types of fleets would order a GT with sport seats, handling package, and TRX wheels?
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    I pulled the engine tonight and the only block numbers are the factory cast E0 numbers. PO said the water pump needs to be the reverse rotation '85 pump, so that would explain the 1985 on the tag. What do I need to look for to date the engine?

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    Need the full engineering number and date. Pics of the codes would be best.

    On the top-rear of the block, just behind the intake manifold, there is a flat pad. There should be an eight-character code there, which is part of the VIN of the vehicle the block was original to. Pic of that would also be best.
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    Could the door have been replaced? With an 1985 door. The Motorsport decal seems familar like the ones used for the Ford Motorsport National. They were white cars, about 100-200 I think. I don't recall all the details but I was there for the parade of 85 models.
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    Got some picture of the castings you wanted. The VIN part is a little wore away so don't know how it will show up but it is the original block for the car.

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    Indeed, it is the original block. The partial (last eight of the) VIN confirms it.

    E0AE-D3C = originally engineered for 1980 (E0) generic F/L/M vehicle (A) by the engine division (E), release level D3C
    2K5 = cast on October 5, 1982

    That means it is a two-piece rear main block.

    The circle with the odd numbers (1 3 5 7 9) and the dot near the nine means it was cast at roughly 9 o'clock.
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