Identify this engine.

[BTD]

What engine is this? It's type and origin are unknown, and I've gotten stumped. No assumptions made. Please help!

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[BTD]

Fun Note : When trying to explain the differences between a 351W and a 302W to my wife she says to me "Well couldn't you just pour 5.8L in there and see if it overflows ?"

[qikgts]

I think it's an late 70's early 80's non roller 302 block but you might want to ask Foxchassis about it.

http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...casting-number

From the link it seemed like he was just a few numbers away from an application.

[BTD]

Foxchassis is who suggested I reach out as we were not able to determine it's exact origin. I need to know first if it's a 302 or 351w, or 351m, all are possibilities

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[qikgts]

Foxchassis is who suggested I reach out as we were not able to determine it's exact origin. I need to know first if it's a 302 or 351w, or 351m, all are possibilities

Whodathunkit... I figured he'd know...

[xctasy]

Its a 5.0 for sure because it had a 5.0 4-bbl intake on it, and the Torino cam part number.


Other reasons, See below.


Great engine, by the way, a real strange number!

[xctasy]

Its a real curly one, this Injun!

Whodathunkit... I figured he'd know...

First step, compartive deck height check...





5.0 = 208.4 French units deep (8.206" from crank center line to head deck)
5.8 = 241.3 mm deep (9.50, although it was 9.469" for a few years back in 1969 to about 1971). Ah I rember those years, natch!

Visually, its like this

[4-barrel Mike]

Pull a main cap. 302 will have a 2.248" or smaller main while the 351 will be larger.

Mike

[FoxChassis]

I suggested Bryan post it here to get more eyeballs on the VIN stamping, to see if anyone could suggest what the numbers and letters might be.

The engineering number and date code are pretty straightforward. Block was originally designed for 1979 LTD II and cast on 08/26/78 (1979 model year). What we need help with is the VIN.

[xctasy]

I know Mick will help, man you've done a motsa already, but its all a little hard to work through with the character and rune recognition on the stamping font. An extra layer of eyes helps, always.


What I got first was was 87634682.




But I'm certain as I can be that it is actually 9Z634692.



My opinion.


The 1st and 7th Characters are the 6th charcter upside down. A nine "9". 6th Char is a six "6"
The 2nd character is a zee "Z", as seven "7" usually has a reverse curve in the stamping font from the base to the 'hat' of the 7.
The 4th characte is a three "3", not an "8"
The 5th characte is a four "4"

There is a standard font type lexican stampings normally use, even if the stamp is US or English sourced, they still use a newsaper typesetting font. If you have an old QWERTY key board, it'll be similar to traditional staping fonts.


In traditional fonts, 8 's have a smaller diameter "o" on the top of the two circle snow man that makes an eight an 8. On computers, its all different.

My old Land Survey boss Charlie always rilled me out if they wern't right, as I was a plan drafter with C Hughes and Associates from 1987 to 1988.

[xctasy]

3rd charecter in is a restamped 2, making the number 9Z234692. That is what the angled 2 is for....IMHO, a missstamped block, reused inventory.

[BTD]

I measured from the center of the crank case to the deck, and it was about 8 inches, which would indicate 302(from my research)

If we assume it came from an LTD, then the sequence number doesn't match up - as a 6 would still be a mercury. The LTD part comes from the 0 in the D90E , as that was Fairlane, Torino, then LTD II (77-79) However if it's a 2 like x suggested, it could totally be an LTD II

It has the Torino Cam and the Fat Balancer, it Had the Correct E3 Intake and Correct Holley Carb on it. (traded to 83GTJIM)

I've also discovered that the part # for the engine D90E - 6015 is very common 302 block, however the E3A Could indicate 1983 Revision A - Which would make perfect sense, but since that would be confirmation bias on my part, I'd like to know other thoughts.

I have done a google search for the D90E - 6015 - E3A and others have said they have it, some say it's a 351W and some say a 302.

[4-barrel Mike]

Pull a main cap. 302 will have a 2.248" or smaller main while the 351 will be larger.

Mike

Duh! Easiest to measure the stroke: 3.00 for 302, 3.50 for 351.

Mike

[BTD]

Here is an extensive list of ford engine casting numbers as I've seen this come up a few times and it helped me

I found an pretty extensive list to aid in your future block decoding
Ford cylinder block casting numbers

b9ae....... Year 1955-1959 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75
ecg........ Year 1955-1958 272 ci,litre 4.5 bore 3.625
eck.......... Year 1955-1964 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75
ecz......... Year 1955-1964 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75
ecz.......... Year 1956-1957 312 ci,litre 5.1 bore 3.80
edb........ Year 1955-1964 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75
edl........... Year 1958-1976 401 ci,litre 6.6 bore 4.125
edm.......... Year 1958-1969 477 ci,litre 7.8 bore 4.50
edm.......... Year 1958-1969 534 ci,litre 8.8 bore 4.50
edc......... Year 1958 361 ci litre 5.9 bore 4.05 stroke 3.50
edc................ Year 1959 361 ci litre 5.9 bore 4.05 stroke 3.50
ecg ci 272 year 1956-1958 bore 3.625 truck
eck-ecz-edb-cote-c1te ci 292 year 1960-1964 bore 3.75 truck
edl ci 401 year 1958-1969 bore 4.125 truck
edl ci 401 year 1970-1976 bore 4.125 truck
edm ci 477 year 1958-1969 bore 4.50 truck
edm ci 534 year 1958-1969 bore 4.50 truck
egg ci 272 compression ratio 8.6:1 year 1957 bore 3.62 2-barrel fuel regular car custom
edb-ecz-eck ci 292 compression ratio 9.1:1 year 1957-1959 bore 3.75 car fairlane,station wagon,thunderbird,truck
ecj ci 312 compression ratio 9.7:1 year 1957 bore 3.80 4-barrel fuel premium car all
ecj ci 312 compression ratio 9.7:1 year 1957 bore 3.80 dual 4-barrel fuel premium car fairlane,station wagon,thunderbird,police interceptor
edc year 1958 solid lifters two core plugs at front of block,four in rear,three on each side-332 ci litre 5.4bore 3.80- stroke 3.66
575063.. Year 1958 hydraulic lifters 332 ci litre 5.4 bore 3.80 stroke 3.66
5751091 year 1958-1959 332 ci litre 5.4 bore 3.80- stroke 3.66
b9ae-b.. Year 1959 332 ci litre 5.4 bore 3.80 stroke 3.66
edc....... Year 1958 solid lifters two core plugs at front four in rear,three on each side-352 ci litre 5.8bore 4.00- stroke 3.50
5750603 year 1958 w/hyd lifters-352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
5751091 year 1958-1959 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
b9ae-b.. Year 1959-1960 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
edc-b..... Year 1960 hp 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
edc-c.... Year 1960 hp 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c0te......... Year 1960-0000 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75 truck

c1te......... Year 1961-0000 292 ci,litre 4.8 bore 3.75 truck
c1ae-c............. Year 1961 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78
c1ae-g.. Year 1961 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
ciae-v... Year 1961 390 hp ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 solid lifters-oil pressure relief valve at rear of block
ciae-g..... Year 1961 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c2se................ Year 1962 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c2oe-g ... 221 ci, year 1962 bore 3.50 deck height 8.206 5-bolt bellhousing pattern-7/8 inch between bores, 6 inches between motor mount holes 2 core plugs per side casting number on top rear of block,
c2ae-bc......... Year 1962 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78
c2ae-be year 1962 390 hp ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 solid lifters-oil pressure relief valve at rear of block
c2ae-br.......... Year 1962 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78
c2ae-bs year 1962 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78
c3ae-ky year 1963 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 police solid lifters
c3me-b.......... Year 1963 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 police solid lifters
c3ae-a.. Year 1963 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c3ae-f.... Year 1963 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c3ae-g.. Year 1964 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c3se-a... Year 1963 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c3ae-ay year 1965 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c30e........ 221 ci, year 1963 bore 3.50 deck height 8.206 5-bolt bellhousing pattern-7/8 inch between bores, 6 inches between motor mount holes 2 core plugs per side casting number on top rear of block,
c30e-a..... 221 ci, year 1963 bore 3.50 deck height 8.206 7 inches between motor mount holes 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C3oe-b.... 260 ci, year 1963 bore 3.80 deck height 8.206 5-bolt bellhousing pattern-9/16 inch between bores, 7 ins. Between motor mount holes, 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C3oe-c.... 260 ci, year 1963 bore 3.80 deck height 8.206 7 inches between motor mount holes 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C30e-b hp 289 ci, year 1963 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing pattern,has thicker main bearing caps, color code orange on rear of block.

C3ae-n.... 289 ci, year 1963 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing pattern.
C4te-a...... Year 1964 330 ci,litre 5.4 bore 3.875 truck
c4te-b....... Year 1964 361 ci,litre 5.9 bore 4.05 truck
c4te-c....... Year 1964 330 ci,litre 5.4 bore 3.875 truck
c4te-d....... Year 1964 359 ci,litre 5.9 bore 4.05 truck
c4te-g...... Year 1964 330 ci,litre 5.4 bore 3.875
c4ae-a.....year 1964 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c4oe-b.... 260 ci, year 1964 bore 3.80 deck height 8.206 7 inches between motor mount holes 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C4oe-d.... 260 ci, year 1964 bore 3.80 deck height 8.206 7 inches between motor mount holes 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C4oe-e.... 260 ci, year 1964 bore 3.80 deck height 8.206 7 inches between motor mount holes 3 core plugs per side, casting number under right rear cylinder bank.
C40e-b hp 289 ci, year1964 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing pattern,has thicker main bearing caps, color code orange on rear of block.
C4oe-c.... 289 ci, year 1964 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 b b p
c4oe-f.... 289 ci, year 1964 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 b b p
c4ae....... 289 ci, year 1964 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 b b p
c4de....... 289 ci, year 1964 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 5 b b p
c4ae-f... Year 1964 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 police solid lifters
c4te-f....... Year 1964 330 ci,litre 5.4 bore 3.875 truck
c4ae-d..... Year 1964 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c5ae........ Year 1965 352 ci,litre 5.8 bore 4.00
c5ae....... Year 1965 428 ci,litre 7.0 bore 4.13
c5ae-a.... Year 1965 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c5oe-a.... 289 ci, year 1965 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 6 b b p
c5ae-b........... Year 1965 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05 stroke 3.78 police solid lifters
c5ae-c... Year 1965 352 ci litre 5.8 bore 4.00 stroke 3.50
c5ae-e..... 289 ci, year 1965 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 6 bellhousing bolt pattern
c5ae-e.... Year 1965 289 ci,litre 4.7 bore 4.00
c5ae-e....hp 289 ci, year 1963 bore 4.00 deck height 8.206 6 b b p,color code orange on rear of block.
C5ae-f..... Year 1965 428 ci,litre 7.0 bore 4.13
c5oe-a.... Year 1965 289 ci,litre 4.7 bore 4.00
c6me..... Year 1966 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
c6me-a... Year 1966 390 ci litre 6.4 bore 4.05- stroke 3.78
C6AE-C.... 289 CI,YEAR 1966 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.206 6 B B P
C6TE-C..... YEAR 1966 352 CI LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 STROKE 3.50
C6TE-L... YEAR 1966 352 CI LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 STROKE 3.50
C6ME-A.. YEAR 1966 352 CI LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 STROKE 3.50
C6ME........YEAR 1966 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
C6ME-A... YEAR 1966 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
C6AE.......... YEAR 1966 352 CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
C6AE........ YEAR 1966 289 CI,LITRE 4.7 BORE 4.00
C6AE-A...... YEAR 1966 428 CI,LITRE 7.0 BORE 4.13
C7AE........ YEAR 1967 352 CI LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 STROKE 3.50
C70E-G..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1967-1969 BORE 4.00 - 2V 1-7/16 ALT 3-3/8 A/C MOUNTING HOLES ON HEAD, 3/8 STUDS
C80E-J..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1967-1969 BORE 4.00 - 2V 1-7/16 ALT 3-3/8 A/C MOUNTING HOLES ON HEAD, 3/8 STUDS
C80E-M..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1967-1969 BORE 4.00 - 2V 1-7/16 ALT 3-3/8 A/C MOUNTING HOLES ON HEAD, 3/8 STUDS
C8AE-B..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00
C8AE-C..........360 CI,LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C8AE-C..........390 CI,LITRE 6.4 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C8TE-B..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00
CE-A..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00
C8AE-A..........360 CI,LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C8AE-A..........390 CI,LITRE 6.4 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C8AE-A..........360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
C8AE-C..........360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
C8AE-E..........360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
C80E-A-B.......302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.206 6 B B P
C8TE-B..........302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.206 6 B B P
C8F-E..BOSS 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.209 6 B B P
C8AE-A..........390 CI LITRE 6.4 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05- STROKE 3.78
C8AE-C..........390 CI LITRE 6.4 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05- STROKE 3.78
C8AE-E..........390 CI LITRE 6.4 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05- STROKE 3.78
C8AE.............360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 HYD. LIFTERS
C8AE-C..........360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C8AE-A..........360 CI LITRE 5.9 YEAR 1968 BORE 4.05
C90E-B...........351W CI LITRE 5.8 YEAR 1969 BORE 4.00 STROKE 3.50
C9Z-E..BOSS 302 CI, LITRE 5.0 YEAR 1969 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.209 6 B B P

C9OE-B..........351W CI, LITRE 5.8 YEAR 1969 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.480 6 B B P
C9OE-B..........351W CI, LITRE 5.8 YEAR 1969 BORE 4.00
C9VE-A............460 CI, LITRE 7.5 YEAR 1969 BORE 4.36
DOZE-B....BOSS 302 CI, YEAR 1970 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.209 6 B B P
DOAE-G...351C-4V CI, YEAR 1970 TWO BOLT MAIN BEARING CAPS CAN BE MACHINED TO ACCEPT 4-BOLT MAIN CAPS. BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.206.
DOAE-J....351C-4V CI, YEAR 1970 TWO BOLT MAIN BEARING CAPS CAN BE MACHINED TO ACCEPT 4-BOLT MAIN CAPS. BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.206.
DOAZ-D....351C-2V CI, YEAR 1970-74 TWO BOLT MAIN BEARING CAPS CAN BE MACHINED TO ACCEPT 4-BOLT MAIN CAPS. BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.206.
D1ZZ-A.....351-COBRA JET & BOSS CI, YEAR 1971 4-BOLT MAIN BORE 4.00
D10E-AA..302 CI, YEAR 1971-1974 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.206 6 BOLT BELLHOUSING PATTERN.
D1TZ-E.....302 CI, YEAR 1971 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.206 6 B B P
D2AE-CA..351C-4V CI, YEAR 1972 TWO BOLT MAIN BEARING CAPS CAN BE MACHINED TO ACCEPT 4-BOLT MAIN CAPS. BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.206.
D2AE-BA..351W CI, YEAR 1972 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.480 6 B B P
D3TE....... YEAR 1973 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 REINFORCEMENT WEBS
D3TE-1...... YEAR 1973 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 SOME HAVE SPECIAL CAST BELOW NUMBER
D3TE-AC. YEAR 1973 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 REINFORCEMENT WEBS
D3TE-HA... YEAR 1973 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50
D4TE-AC. YEAR 1974 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 REINFORCEMENT WEBS
D4AE-DA..351W CI, YEAR 1974 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.503 6 B B P
D4AE-AA..351W CI, YEAR 1974 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 9.503 6 B B P
D4DE-AA..302 CI, YEAR1974 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.229 6 B B P
D5ZY-AA..302 CI, YEAR 1975 BORE 4.00 DECK HEIGHT 8.229 6 B B P
D7TE-BA... YEAR 1977 360 CI LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05 STROKE 3.50 SERVICE BLOCK
EOSE -AE 255 CI, YEAR 1980 BORE 3.68 DECK HEIGHT 8.206
D0AE-J...... YEAR 1970 351C CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D1VE......... YEAR 1971 460 CI,LITRE 7.5 BORE 4.36
D1VE-A2B... YEAR 1971 460 CI,LITRE 7.5 BORE 4.36
D1AE-A....... YEAR 1971 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D1AE-C....... YEAR 1971 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D1MZ-AA.... YEAR 1971 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00
D2AE-CA... YEAR 1972 351C CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D2OE-AB... YEAR 1972 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00
D2AE-BA1. YEAR 1972 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D3TE.......... YEAR 1973 360 CI,LITRE 5.9 BORE 4.05

D3TE.......... YEAR 1973 390 CI,LITRE 6.4 BORE 4.05
D4AE-AA.... YEAR 1974 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D4AE-AH.... YEAR 1974-1978 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D4DE-AA... YEAR 1974 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00
D4AE-B2A.. YEAR 1974 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D4AE-D2A.. YEAR 1974 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D4TE.......... YEAR 1974 391 CI,LITRE 6.4 BORE 4.05
D4AE-B2A.. YEAR 1974 351M CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D4HE-ABA.. YEAR 1974 475 CI,LITRE 7.8 BORE 4.50
D4HE-ABA.. YEAR 1974 534 CI,LITRE 8.8 BORE 4.50
D4AE-B2A. YEAR 1974 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D4AE-B2A. YEAR 1974 351M CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D4DE-BA... YEAR 1974 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00
D4AE-AA8. YEAR 1974 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00
D7TE-A2B. YEAR 1977 400 CI,LITRE 6.6 BORE 4.00
D8VE-A3A. YEAR 1978 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick Tube in Pan
D9AE-ED... YEAR 1979 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 4 B.C., H/O
D9OE........ YEAR 1979 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block
D9OE-E3A... YEAR 1979 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block
D9TE-AB..... YEAR 1979 460 CI,LITRE 7.5 BORE 4.36
D9TE-AB..... YEAR 1979 429 CI,LITRE 7.0 BORE 4.36 1-3/4" Crankshaft Neck, From 4/1/85
D9TE-AB..... YEAR 1979 429 CI,LITRE 7.0 BORE 4.36 1-3/4" Crankshaft Neck, Before 4/1/85
D9TE-BB..... YEAR 1979 370 CI,LITRE 6.1 BORE 4.05
E0AE-D3C... YEAR 1980 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 H.O. Dipstick in Pan
E3AE-BA... YEAR 1983 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 4 B.C., H/O
E3AZ......... YEAR 1983 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block
E4AE-FA... YEAR 1984 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 4 B.C., H/O
E4AE-FA... YEAR 1984-1986 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 4 B.C., H/O 1/2 HEAD BOLTS, DIPSTICK IN TIMING CHAIN COVER OR OIL PAN,1 PIECE REAR SEAL STARTING FROM 7-11-83, VIN H, THERMACTOR EMISSIONS.
E5AE-AA... YEAR 1985 351W CI,LITRE 5.8 BORE 4.00 4 B.C., H/O
E5AE-C3B... YEAR 1985 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 H.O.Dipstick in Pan
E6SE-BA..... YEAR 1986 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 H.O. Dipstick in Pan
E6TE-BA..... YEAR 1986 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block
E7TE-CA.... YEAR 1987 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 H.O. Dipstick in Block
E7TE-EA..... YEAR 1987 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 H.O. Dipstick in Block
F1SE........... YEAR 1991 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00

[xctasy]

D9OE-E3A... YEAR 1979 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block



1.The most import thing is the VIN on the block or transmission has to be complete and legible. If any of the eight characters are missing or illegible forget about figuring out the rest.


Not missing, restamped with a restamp check anotation, the angled two "2". Six "6" becomes two "2"


Z is St. Louis Assembly at Hazelwood, Missouri, Closed in 2006, made or rather,

assembled Ford, 100001 to 599999

or Mercury and Lincoln 600 001 to 999 999.

I'll bet its a repurposed block.
2XX XXX would be 234692

so 9Z2XX XXX
= 9Z234692

Then you go through the VIN number.

Do I get a dawg biscuit?

[BTD]

D9OE-E3A... YEAR 1979 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block



1.The most import thing is the VIN on the block or transmission has to be complete and legible. If any of the eight characters are missing or illegible forget about figuring out the rest.


Not missing, restamped with a restamp check anotation, the angled two "2". Six "6" becomes two "2"


Z is St. Louis Assembly at Hazelwood, Missouri, Closed in 2006, made or rather,

assembled Ford, 100001 to 599999

or Mercury and Lincoln 600 001 to 999 999.

I'll bet its a repurposed block.
2XX XXX would be 234692

so 9Z2XX XXX
= 9Z234692

Then you go through the VIN number.

Do I get a dawg biscuit?

I haven't been able to get FC's method to work in extracting the vin as it's an 11 digit VIN, and we are making the LTD assumption which is the only way to get body codes

[FoxChassis]

The "0" in D90E is actually the letter "O"

D9OE

The block was cast in late 1978, meaning its use was in the 1979 model year. So E3A does not tranlate to a 1983 release.

I agree with the typefont for the number "8" having a smaller circle over a larger one. I have samples of perfectly stamped VINs on later (1983-86) blocks or transmissions that show this. The same samples also show "9" being identical to "6", just flipped, so I also agree with that.

I cannot agree with the oddly-placed "2" as being a replacement for the first sequence digit.

D9OE with the "O" being LTD II does not mean the block was only used in LTD IIs. The Mercury sister car of the same year, the Marquis, would not have a different engineering number suffix. Ford would use the same block in many other models until it was redesigned. That is why we must then go by the VIN to know what is was put in.

[FoxChassis]

What I got first was was 87634682.




But I'm certain as I can be that it is actually 9Z634692.

I agree.

9 = 1979 model year
Z = St Louis Assembly Plant
634692 = 34,692nd 1979 Mercury scheduled for production at St Louis Assembly

According to Wikipedia the only 1979 Mercury product produced at St Louis Assembly was the Marquis.

1979 Marquis body code are:
61 - Marquis 2-door sedan
62 - Marquis 4-door sedan
63 - Marquis Brougham 2-door sedan
64 - Marquis Brougham 4-door sedan
74 - Marquis station wagon

1979 5.0L engine code is F

So possible VINs are:
9Z61F634692
9Z62F634692
9Z63F634692
9Z64F634692
9Z74F634692

[xctasy]

Nice. Good logic. Question...does the angled two "2" do anything to add info...a shift, or batch no. Weight of evidence says 3rd character is six "6" I guess.

One thing...when magnafluxed with the particles and the magnetic source, you can trace a restamp, we used to do that for ASME tests...some of you aerospace guys or police vehicle recovery guys might chip in if you are at liberty to do so.

FoxChassis...if the evidence was greater, would the 3rd Char be a game changer...cause its got a boggie at 9 o clock, maybee just iron foundry hardness...and no small hole on the stamping face like on most others.

[BTD]

So if we assume this engine isn't original to my car, should the engine be this one then ?
E3AZ......... YEAR 1983 302 CI,LITRE 5.0 BORE 4.00 Dipstick in Block
Although A means generic full size ford, so that doesn't help.. I don't see any other E3 engines for 302, so what engine number is supposed to be in there ?

Can anyone else with an 83GT post your block number ?

[FoxChassis]

Nice. Good logic. Question...does the angled two "2" do anything to add info...a shift, or batch no. Weight of evidence says 3rd character is six "6" I guess.

One thing...when magnafluxed with the particles and the magnetic source, you can trace a restamp, we used to do that for ASME tests...some of you aerospace guys or police vehicle recovery guys might chip in if you are at liberty to do so.

FoxChassis...if the evidence was greater, would the 3rd Char be a game changer...cause its got a boggie at 9 o clock, maybee just iron foundry hardness...and no small hole on the stamping face like on most others.

No way to explain what the "2" is there for. Maybe they were testing how hard to hit it. Who knows.

The third character is a game changer. If it's a "6" it's a Mercury or Lincoln product. At this point the only L/M product we have figured was made at St Louis Assembly in 1979 was Mercury Marquis. If it's a "2" it's a Ford product. At this point the only Ford product we have figured was made at St Louis Assembly in 1979 was LTD II.

[BTD]

After much researching I have compiled this table of 302 Ford Casting Numbers

75ZY 1974-78 4.000 3.000
C5AE 1968-76 4.000 3.000
C6AE 1968-76 4.000 3.000
C80E 1968-76 4.000 3.000
D1ZM 1968-76 4.000 3.000
D2OE 1968-76 4.000 3.000
D4DE 1968-78 4.000 3.000
D80E 1978-81 4.000 3.000
D8VE 1974-78 4.000 3.000
D90AE-E3A 1978-81 4.000 3.000
D9DE 1974-78 4.000 3.000
E5AE 1985-86 4.000 3.000
E5AE-AA 1985 4.000 3.000
E5AE-C3B 1985 4.000 3.000
E6SE 1985-86 4.000 3.000
E6SE-BA 1986 4.000 3.000
E7TE 1985-93 4.000 3.000
E7TE-CA 1987-91 4.000 3.000
E7TE-EA 1987-91 4.000 3.000
EO8E 1981-84 4.000 3.000
EOAE 1985-86 4.000 3.000
EOAE-D3A 1985 4.000 3.000
EOAE-D3C 1978-84 4.000 3.000
F1SE 1988-98 4.000 3.000
F1SE-BB 1992-95 4.000 3.000

The only engines that would be appropriate for a 1983 Mustang GT are Two of them
E08E
D90E-E3A

E80E would fit perfectly, whereas D90E-E3A is the one just before.

Can a current owner of a 1983 GT verify they have the E08E - 6015 casting ?

[BTD]

Also here is the best I can do for the stamp

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[83GTJIM]

Hey Brian, I have a couple I can check but I'm drowning with all the data in this thread. Where do I find the casting number on a 83 GT block?

[onetrackrider]

Now I have a headache.