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  1. #26

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    There is a "Current production facilities" table and below that is a "Former production facilities" table. The Z plant is in the second table.
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  2. #27

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    Using FC's method, I figured out the original VIN for my engine(or the LTD II it was build for anyway) was 8Z30F631682

    How can I see the history on this vehicle ? Or if it was even built ?
    Last edited by BTD; 05-09-2017 at 04:14 PM.
    1981 Mustang Hatch 3.3 "Orange Juice"
    1983 Mustang GT Convertible "Triple Black"
    1994 Ford ThunderBird SC
    1987 Firebird T/A
    1984 Firebird Forumla
    1988 Mazda RX-7 Infinity
    1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II
    1994 Eagle Talon TSI
    1991 Eagle Talon TSI
    2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    Using FC's method, I figured out the original VIN for my engine(or the LTD II it was build for anyway) was 8Z30F631682

    How can I see the history on this vehicle ? Or if it was even built ?
    Marti Auto Works can tell you everything about any Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury made in the United States or Canada during 1967-2012.
    Dave

    1FABP28M4FF114537 bought 12/84 sold 1992
    1MEBP79M8FF613099 bought 9/13 sold 10/19
    1FABP28M4FF166315 bought 3/12 sold 5/21

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  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    Using FC's method, I figured out the original VIN for my engine(or the LTD II it was build for anyway) was 8Z30F631682

    How can I see the history on this vehicle ? Or if it was even built ?
    It is not from an Ford LTD II. The sequence number begins with "6" therefore it is from a Lincoln or Mercury product. Refer to the image in post #16 on page one of this thread.
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  5. #30

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    Okay second try, seeing that only the Marquis fits the criteria (In 79, St louis plant, had a 302)
    I have found 3 different body codes for the Marquis 64/66/74

    How do I know which one is right ?
    8Z64F631682
    8Z66F631682
    8Z74F631682
    1981 Mustang Hatch 3.3 "Orange Juice"
    1983 Mustang GT Convertible "Triple Black"
    1994 Ford ThunderBird SC
    1987 Firebird T/A
    1984 Firebird Forumla
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    1994 Eagle Talon TSI
    1991 Eagle Talon TSI
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  6. #31

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    If these codes...

    http://shopkeysupport.com/sk5com/vin/vin.pdf

    1978 MERCURY
    50 Marquis 4 Dr Sed (Canada)
    52 Marquis 2 Dr HT (Canada)
    61 Gran Marquis 2 Dr HT
    62 Marquis 4 Dr Sed
    63 Marquis Brougham 2 Dr HT
    64 Marquis Brougham 4 Dr Sed
    65 Gran Marquis 2 Dr HT
    66 Gran Marquis 4 Dr Sed
    74 Marquis S/W

    ...are accurate then the possible VINs you have assembled are not correct. Gran Marquis is not the same as Marquis.

    Now which one out of a list of bunch of VINs is the right one? Only confirmation from Ford's production database will tell you that. In other words, a Marti report. Order one for ever VIN and they will kick the bad ones back to you not charge you. You'll only get charged for the good VIN. There is no way to verify records on a vehicle history report website. Those sites only do 17-character (1981 and later) VINs.
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  7. #32

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    Can anyone tell me the year, make, model and the full VIN of the vehicle that this partial VIN belongs to? ... GX123456
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  8. #33

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    Edit : I wrote this under the assumption that what FC posted was an engine block stamp, not the last part of a 17 digit or an 11 digit vin

    Well the GX12 is 1977 Ford Pinto Station Wagon
    There is no 1 used for an engine code that I could find for Ford, Linc or Mercury, the 4 Would indicate it is indeed a Ford, so that leans me back to pinto
    If you assume the G is for 1987 well then the X doesn't work as the X plant closed in 1983 , so you are **** outta luck.

    HOWEVER , according to Many Ford pinto decoders, the X stands for the St Thomas Plant which would be fine, because the body code would still be 12 for the wagon in 77, but there is no 12 body code used in 1987, also there is still no 3 for an engine code.

    So I'm stumped.
    1981 Mustang Hatch 3.3 "Orange Juice"
    1983 Mustang GT Convertible "Triple Black"
    1994 Ford ThunderBird SC
    1987 Firebird T/A
    1984 Firebird Forumla
    1988 Mazda RX-7 Infinity
    1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II
    1994 Eagle Talon TSI
    1991 Eagle Talon TSI
    2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

  9. #34

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    Partial VINs do not contain an engine code. They are always model year (1st character), assembly plant (2nd), and sequence number (3rd-8th).

    For 11-character VINs (1980 and earlier) it is positions 1-2 and 6-11 What is not in the partial VIN is the body code (3-4) and the engine code (5).
    For 17-character VINs (1981 and later) it is positions 10-17. What is not in the partial VIN is WMI codes (1-3), restraint/brakes/GVWR code (4), vehicle type code (5), body type code (6-7), engine code (8), and check digit code (9).

    Model years started using a letter in 1981 so the letter G is not 1980 or earlier.

    St. Thomas Assembly (in Talbotville, Ontario, Canada) closed in 2011.

    I have edited the 'List of Ford Factories' wiki page and put the "X (NA)" assembly plant code in its proper location.
    Last edited by FoxChassis; 05-10-2017 at 12:14 PM.
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  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    Can anyone tell me the year, make, model and the full VIN of the vehicle that this partial VIN belongs to? ... GX123456

    1986 FORD LTD CROWN VICTORIA 4 door sedan with a 5.0 CFI built in St Thomas ON
    VIN:2FABP43F2GX123456
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    26 history records
    Last edited by 70b302cat; 05-10-2017 at 02:13 PM.
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  11. #36

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    Correct. Did you do it the hard way (my 8-step process on page 1) or use the pdf link above for most of the info?
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  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    Correct. Did you do it the hard way (my 8-step process on page 1) or use the pdf link above for most of the info?
    PDF link combined with having worked for a logistics company that used to deal with Ford vehicles and prior VIN knowledge.
    Dave

    1FABP28M4FF114537 bought 12/84 sold 1992
    1MEBP79M8FF613099 bought 9/13 sold 10/19
    1FABP28M4FF166315 bought 3/12 sold 5/21

    1FABP28T7FF239068 bought 10/14
    1FABP28T9GF181465 bought 10/14

  13. #38

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    OK you had an unfair advantage. Well done!
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