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    Default Photo request- show me foxes with 15s or 16s WITHOUT drag radials and skinnies!

    like the title says... i dont want 17s anymore.

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    Here is one on stock ten holes, 225 up front, and 255 in the rear.
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    How about 15s or 16s with tires with a low aspect ratio? Kinda lookin for a road race look. Nice car man

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    I doubt you're going to find many pictures of foxes on here with anything lower than a 60 sidewall on a 15, once you start going lower on these smaller wheels, it starts looking more like a low rider/hydraulic car than a "road racer". These smaller wheels weren't meant for low profile tires.
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    Just went outside and snapped this one. American racing AR229, 16x7 front with a 225/55 and 16x8 rear with a255/50.Name:  DSC_4035.jpg
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    Wheels: 16x8
    Front tires 225/50
    Rear tires 245/50

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    I stand corrected, the 50 side wall on your vert looks about perfect DougTx

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    Another set of 10-holes.....225/60/15 all the way around......


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    Wheels - 15"
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    Rear - 265/50

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    235 60 15 front and back

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpippin1986 View Post
    I stand corrected, the 50 side wall on your vert looks about perfect DougTx
    Thank you...

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    I'm diggin that desert tan hatch. It's the same color as my predator except for the rub strips. The reason why I wanted to see "road racer" style cars with thinner sidewalls is because I was curious if anyone would've posted a wheel and tire setup like the mustangs from ATCC. Specifically dick Johnson's greens tuf and pine PAC foureye cars. I'm dying to find out the wheel and tire specs of those cars. Ive searched and searched but to no avail. I've only been able to scroung the diameters. And they're either 15s or 16s Name:  image.jpg
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    16" x 7" Boyd Coddington wheels (old set up)
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    Lowered with Eibach Sport Line springs and urethane isolators front and rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatorGT View Post
    I'm diggin that desert tan hatch. It's the same color as my predator except for the rub strips. The reason why I wanted to see "road racer" style cars with thinner sidewalls is because I was curious if anyone would've posted a wheel and tire setup like the mustangs from ATCC. Specifically dick Johnson's greens tuf and pine PAC foureye cars. I'm dying to find out the wheel and tire specs of those cars. Ive searched and searched but to no avail. I've only been able to scroung the diameters. And they're either 15s or 16s Name:  image.jpg
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    Here are the specs. In the early days, Dick Johnson experimented with BBS split rims, but they tended to explode under exterme Australian (Queensland and sometimes Bathurst) race conditions. So the Australian Simmonds wheels were what was used. B45's.




    Dunlop 265/630 slicks, then they got DOT Hoosier A6 in 275 45 16.


    25.7" (653 mm max front height), 24.8" always clears (630 mm)

    See 4th link in my signature.


    http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...s/pinepac1.htm
    Wheels, tyres: 16inch Simmonds 3 piece, 265/630 Dunlop racing slicks.


    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy View Post
    I'm with Trey.

    The OP did say wheel, so 16 x 10 inch Simmonds 3 piece all round on 275 45 16 is possiable before going 17 inch and fender pumping.


    Personal taste and how much you push the standard envolope, and how much internal work you do, govern how big big can be.

    Race cars in the 80's couldn't push past the 265 barrier, but they are easily at 275 with Hoosiers now, like No 32 and 33 Pine Pac Australaisia Group A Mustangs






    Bear in mind, that Nitto 315's aren't 315's, they are 295's, so 275 is the maximum front and back with stock fender profiles.

    When you go above the 16" wheel, or get a better width front wheel arch, or the more advanced aftermarket X members, adjustable spring perches et al the red sea parts, and you have options that didn't exist before.

    I just love the Capri style pumped fenders of the Maier Racing Fender Flares for the Mustang Coupe. The black 335 is pretty good for a Fox with myxomatosis (non four eye Aero stang) Natch!

    http://www.maierracing.com/images/mikeskillingstad1.jpg



    http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc501/xecute6/maier-racing-fenders-mustang-installationMaierRacingFenderFlaresfortheMustangCo upe.jpg[/img]



    Quote Originally Posted by Duey782 View Post


    I just bought 2 Mk VII wheels for the front. They will fit with the spacers b/c of the greater backspacing. These Crown Vic's will fit the rear with Fox length axles. They clear the rear calipers and brackets but need the narrower axles to fit under the fenders. The CV's are going to a local wheel shop for widening to 9", media blasting and refinishing.
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    The whole wheel size thing was fixed in three steps.


    Step 1. The 1984 with SVO offset 225/50 16's used the S shell uprights and arms (LSC/Conti Compact), but the the LSC VII and the 16" Crown Victoria rims work best if you use the earlier narrow track, and don't go to 58.5". 56.6/57" track is best, and use the SVO offsets.


    Step 2 was in 1990-1991, where Ford did some 1969 tircks on the 1991-1993 Areo front gaurds.


    Step 3: The LSC and 1982-1987 Continental got the bigger internal wheel envelope as the whole S shell was a new super structure on the old 1980 Stirling built XR7/ T bird, and if you copy that wheel arch profile, you get a heap more space. BBS Mesh rims were designed for the 82 Conti Compact from Day One. Ford then used them on everything 5 stud, and imported form NZ Cheviot Mesh as replacement TRX rims for ASC McLarens.


    The "open up and radius" on these 91-93 Fox Mustang gaurds, 69 Boss 302 stlye., gives you just enough room with some 8 mm spacers. Rack limiters or the lower control arm with blocker horns is another.


    Font's are always an issue.

    I used my wifes RAV4 235/60 16"s, depending on if you use LT or SUV Load class, a 17 to 12 mm tread depth tire 688 mm unloaded or 27.1".


    The old racer trick is to scrub them down to 3 to 6 mm tread depth, so they are now shaved down to about 660 mm, near enough to fit if you do the wheel arch clip.



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    Yeah I read that thread about the PINE PAC car already.. that's how I found out the diameter, but I still don't know the BS or offset or even the width, tho I'm sure they're 10s. Anyone know how those guys back then were able to stuff a 10" wide wheel on all four corners and still have all that clearance between the outer fender and tire??????? I've searched photo of the suspension and it's really nothing special, excluding the mono lock hubs. It just appears to be coilovers. I think the rear is indeed a single unit coil over setup but I don't see how that setup could allow for more wheel clearance. Btw, rolling the fender doesn't really bother me anymore, so that's not issue. I do plan to run coils and since that 17x10/9 thread I have gotten an sn95 five lug conversion and rear brake swap. I've heard the front sn96 spindles can actually help fitting 10s up front. So, Anyone hv info of the wheels in question? Specifically the offset or bs and width? How did they get that tire to fender clearance? I'm just trying to steer clear of flares, seeing these cars got me excited that I could get a wide wheel/tire setup without drilling or cutting my predators fenders to fit them! I appreciate the pics and help guys

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    A little bit like Emiles stunning Stang , in post #73 http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...908#post458908






    there was freedom to bend the plastic work around with some internal stiffening.


    Same with the suspension coils. In Group A, if its safety, you can reinforce, or update to a different configuaration as long as its still got the same pickup points...even if they aren't used anymore.

    The Maier front wheel house and gaurd removed showa the standard adjustable spirng platforms.


    http://www.mustanglab.com/maier-raci...mustang-coupe/




    Adjustable spring platforms, and F1 style cast aluminum uprights. Tight wound colis take up less space, and there was no truck load, so they put the springs at the back above the axle...



    Standard 17 x 9 and 17 x 10 back spaces offsets for 275's apply to 16's as long as you use the adjustable platforms.


    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy
    Been doing a lot of research on generic 8 bolt US diffs. I'm looking to use what I can find about the stock US 6.75 diff. It may just be a variation on a stock European Ford Atlas/Dana 30 diff, just like the Ford 8.8 is just a cheap knock-off of the Jag/Jeep/Chev Corvette/Cobra/ Dana 44/Salisbury Gear 4HU unit.

    Based on part number, the US 6.75" diff came out in 1957, but was used in early XK 2000 Falcons (1960 year), then got replaced when early round bodies went to short pinion 7" diffs, then long pinion 7.25" diffs. The 6.75" lookes quite different even though it has 8 bolts. The diff then appeared to spawn the weedy short pinion 6.75" diff used in 23 spline form in 1971 to 1973 Pintos, then got upgraded to bigger bearings and 24 splines form in 1974 PintoMustang II's. The ratios choices then expanded to suit V6's, so the 2.73 gear I have in my 1982 first came out in 1974.

    Internally it may be very similar to our 10 bolt European/German Atlas diff used on factory and Works Ford Capris and BDA Escorts, IRS Granada Mk 1,2,and 3 (Cologne engined European). See http://www.vkukko.fi/ford/atlas.htm

    Apparently, the 10 bolt Atlas diff was homologated as a race diff when the MacLaren Mustang came out, and the early Group 2 and Group A papers had it listed from when Ford Motorsport filed the papers to FISA in 1982. See this Atlas homologation diff in a New Zealand rebuild of Dick Johnston Greens Tough No 17 Mustang.


    Race homolgations for the Group A Mustang with turbo 2.3 or 5.0 4bbl were 7.5" Atlas 3.44, 3.75, 3.89, 4.11

    They have 3.09, 3.22, 3.44, 3.45, 3.50, 3.70, 3.75, 3.89, 4.11, 4.44 ratio options, but like most diffs, the crown wheel size varies from the 7.5" maximum the case will carry to less than 6.75 inches. Volvo bits from 164/264 Dana 30's bolt on to this diff.
    Dick Johnson also had major issues with the Atlas ZF 7.5" axle, and couldn't get to the proper 57" Tank Fairlane 9" axle soon enough.
    Dick had two cars with this Mike Kranfaus homologated axle, the other Green car (white internal 71 or 18 depending on how its appeared, kept the Ross Hopper custom Atlas 7.5", but according to my engineer Roy Mc Donald, the other car got a 9".


    The New Zealanders on the Pine Pac Black car and Abes Babe kept the 7.5" Atlas, but 32 got a 9" axle before the scrutineers knocked it back.


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    You lost me on that explanation on swapping parts of wheels with other wheels haha. I know the "f1 style" spindle help with front fitment but I obviously am not going to do that, and (tell me if I'm wrong, because your rear end explanation kind confused me) those axles you speak of will help with rear fitment. But it I understand correctly the part that will help with fitment the most would be coilovers? I think that, combined with carefully selected offsets, tire size, and fender roll I should b able to fit 10s all around. Yes? No? Maybe so? Sorry for all the questions, I like to be thorough
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatorGT View Post
    You lost me on that explanation on swapping parts of wheels with other wheels haha
    BBS rims were originally split rims, so you can mess around with offset.


    Grab a plastic LINCOLN MARK VII 84-92 1984-1992 FENDER LINER INNER FENDER, drop a Mustng fender and you'll see that it just takes a little guard pump to fit 275's in the front. LSC's were designed to take 245/60 16's, but will take much more. Its the height and width that prevent the bigger tires going in.





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    Ok I think I understand.. You just pop the bottom part of the fender and bumper and fab something up to keep them popped out.

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    Yes sir....maybee, hmmm

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    My sn95 axles are too long aren't they? My buddy let me borrow his saleen wheels 17x10 with a 30mm offset and 275s. They would've rubbed but I thought with a slightly higher offset and rolled fenders they could've fit. Why does everyone have so much trouble fitting a 10" wide wheel in the back?

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    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...75-40-r-17-fit

    10'S are listed as 23.9 mm offset, but else-ware it stated as 6.29" backspace. 6.46 to 6.5" backspace is normal.

    They fit with stock 56.6/57" Fox tracks.

    Fox axles are 29.16" long ea. 57" rear track, stock offset
    1994-98 axles are 29.91" long ea. 58.5" rear track, stock offset
    1999-2004 axles are 30.63" long ea. 59.94" rear track, stock offset.

    Soo going SN95 means you need about 0.75 to 1.5" less back space than 6.5".


    If you can find offset to suit, all good.

    Mustang wheels that are out there in 9" and 10.x" will not work well with SN95 width axles in a Fox body.

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    215/65/15 front, 235/60/15 rear

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    205/55/R16 LMR rims Michelin tyres sorry tires

    Hmm just looked at this you cannot really see, try this

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    225/55zr16 95w on 16" crown vic rims (5 lug conversion)
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    1982 Mustang coupe with 66 mustang 289(30 over, keith black pistons,etc.) 4cyl world class t-5, 8.8 with 3.55.
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