Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1

    Default Stupid question- front speaker location

    I've got a 1986 Mustang GT Convertible. The PO hacked up the door panels, and then afterward added speaker pods that cover the entire bottom side of the door (the carpeted area). They don't look "awful", but they fall off all the time, and are very annoying. I ordered new door panels through TMI, and I am waiting for those. In the mean time I've been doing some brainstorming. I would like to end up with a 7 speaker system, which means I need to retain the 6.5"s in front in some way.

    This is a very stupid question, (because there's probably no good answer) but anyone have any ideas on where to put front 6.5"s if not the doors or kickpanels? Kickpanel speakers IMO are dumb, and I'm trying to avoid cutting up new door panels... (but this will ultimately probably be the solution).

  2. #2
    Moderator wraithracing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Grand Junction, CO


    The OEM 87-93 cars had a 5.25" front door speaker. The door shell stamping is different, but you could try and do the same thing with your Vert. I will still require cutting your new door panels, but it can be made to work. I am doing a similar install for my 82 GT, but I am using different door panels than your set up.

    IMHO there is no way to fit the 6.5" speakers in the doors without some type of pod or just cutting up the door shell. The 5.25" into the Four Eyes is tough enough as it is. Best of Luck!

    "I Don't build it hoping for your approval! I built it because it meets mine!"

    "I've spent most of my money on Mustangs, racing, and women... the rest I just wasted."

    Mustangs Past: Too many to remember!
    Current Mustangs:
    1969 Mach 1
    1979 Pace Car now 5.0/5 speed
    1982 GT Awaiting Restoration
    1984 SVO Restoration in Progress
    1986 GT Wrecked by PO, but still want to save!

    Current Capris:
    1982 Capri Roller
    1984 Capri Returned to Bubble Back Glory
    1983-84 Gloy Racing Trans Am/IMSA Body Parts

  3. #3
    FEP Super Member sowaxeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Greenwood, IN


    Speakers in the kick panel or door panel are both "sonically" dumb if you ask me. You are throwing good hi-freq sound right into your legs to be absorbed/obstructed by your clothing. Why not do a custom 2-way mix in the dash....put a mid-range 4-5" driver in the center dash opening, and 1" tweeters in the factory speaker locations. With a good crossover and 2 or 3 channel amp, that can get you ALL the sound you need out of the front. This sonically makes sense as all the mid to high frequencies would hit you in the ears after reflecting off the glass. Use the factory rear locations for a set of full range speakers, and add a sub for a killer sound system....all while maintaining your new door panels.
    Last edited by sowaxeman; 04-20-2017 at 02:38 PM.
    Jason Smith
    MCA #65481

    '82 GT Med. Red - 13k Mile Orig. Survivor
    '85 GT Black - 15k Mile Orig. Survivor
    '88 #400 Saleen Coupe "Mean Machine" Legal Guardian
    '92 LX 5.0 Calypso - 10k Mile Orig. Survivor....Unveiling Winter 2018
    '93 LX Yellow/Black Summer Feature - 2,500 Mile Original Survivor
    '05 S-281 Mineral Grey - 13k miles @ counting.

  4. #4


    My current setup includes 6.5"s in the doors, 3.5"s in the dash, and a 12" CompR in back.

    I have noticed that unless I hold my leg a certain way I can hear the speaker on the drivers side being muffled. I would agree that it's a dumb place to put speakers (especially when I would have to cut up brand new panels to do so), but I guess its been convenient for manufacturers all this time.

    Between my 3.5"s and 12 I can cover everything but the higher midbass. Your solution sounds worth investigating. I like it.

  5. #5


    This is really a can of worms.

    The real questions to answer are how far you want to go with the system design and how much you want to spend.

    Putting mid-bass speakers in the doors is not a bad idea. They just need to be cut off at the proper frequency so they blend well with the dash speakers and (if you have a sub-woofer) integrate the bass speaker in the back so that the staging comes from the front. The latter requires a band pass filter for the front woofers. The whole "leg movement" issue is do to the fact that the door speakers are crossed too high if at all. The other thing you want to avoid is the door skin vibration and window linkage rattles that can be associated with a door mounted woofer. The rattles can be very annoying and very hard to trace down and fix with even modest power levels. This can however be worked out with a little time and attention to detail.

    Mounting a mid woofer in the center of the dash also has its merits and its trade-offs as well. The staging can be easier than door mounted woofers.....sometimes. Everything is where you need it physically, but depending on how you want to control the center driver you will need a mono signal, a dual voice coil driver or some type of circuit (active or passive) so that it blends well with the left and right dash channels. Another issue with this set-up is power handling of the center driver. Depending on how loud you want to play the system it can be hard to find a single driver that small (5x7?, 4x6?) that will handle much power or cone excursion down low, say 50 cycles or so crossing to a sub. After all we are talking mid-bass duty here. There can also dash vibration to deal with at high volume levels. Again, attention to detail

    There is no real reason to need a 7 speaker system. And more good news, if your system is well thought out and you use quality components it doesn't have to break the bank either. Keep it as simple as possible. It is a convertible to start with and my 86 vert is pretty noisy inside unless it is sitting still so you are not setting up a sound studio. If you choose to keep the woofers in the front you really only need 4 good clean strong channels for the front (2 for the dash and 2 for the woofers) and one strong channel for the sub. Pick your crossover points carefully and you will be fine.

    One other thing. The head unit. I am not sure what you are planning for this but there are many ways to go including factory. This decision will have some bearing on the rest of the system.

    Hope this helps

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts