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    Default 83 GT Vert Black Rear Seat

    Just wondering if anyone of the other 83 GT Vert owners ..
    A)Have black interior
    B)Can take a picture of your backseat for me

    I am looking to reupholster my backseat to it's original pattern, but I don't know what it looks like in a GT vert. I've seen the regular GT seats, but I'd like a backseat vert example if there is someone out there with such.

    Thanks in advance,
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    Brian - is your upholstery cloth, vinyl, or leather?
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    I have the black vinyl, kinda looks like black bars in the front seats.
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    That's a rare bird you have there...
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    Your original code was "FA", Black cloth & vinyl.
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    @Foxchassis and therein lies the problem, as my interior isn't FA. Unfortunately the door sticker on my car is worn away so marti just guessed. I have what I believe (And I could be 100% wrong) FC interior. I've seen the FA that you mention, it's got the black outer bars, then grey sorta cloth in the middle right ?

    Well here is what I have
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
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    See that one is similar, but in (grey?) cloth.
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    It's black but faded.

    Your car came with cloth and vinyl originally. Code "FA" on your Marti report. Just like the one above.

    Marti does not "guess". They have access to Ford's production database and print on your report, and if you got a reproduction door tag or window sticker, what is in the database.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Knebworth View Post
    That's a rare bird you have there...
    Thank you Bryan, I appreciate the compliment.
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    Black all vinyl would be code "CA". If you insists that's what your car came with, despite what's on your Marti report, here is a pic:

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    Black all vinyl would be code "CA". If you insists that's what your car came with, despite what's on your Marti report, here is a pic:

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    I'm not insisting on anything, Hagerty is. More directly, their appraiser.
    All I know, is that the seats are original to the car with the exception of the upholstery on the back seat, which is why I made the post.

    Either that, or every single previous owner that I took the time to track down, and get sworn statements from - Lied to me about never taking the engine or interior out of the car.

    You believe which option you like, and I shall do the same
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    Can we see a pic of the upholstery on the back seat? I'm curious as to why the seats would be all original EXCEPT for the back seat.

    If those are the original front seats, am I right thinking they should have the shoulder belt holder things near the headrest or maybe they were on top of rear interior trim panel for 1983??
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    Been following this thread since this car is such an enigma!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    The interior also isn't 100% original , I re upholsterd the backseat with the old interior from my uncles 1956 F-150. I think it gives it more of a "hot rod" look. No ones ever sat back there while I've owned it anyway, at 6'3 I sure can't sit there lol.

    On the to do list is the drivers seat, it has two rips along seams. The pass side one is pretty much perfect. The inside of my top needs some need staples as well to hold in the pad that goes against the rail.

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    @GTRAG - Do you have power windows on yours ? Do you have the manual roll up rear quarters ? 83 was the only year you could get them. It's really weird having power windows AND manual windows in the same car from the factory. It does look neat though, reminds you that 83 was right on the cusp of tech, when old stuff was still around, but was being phased out by new advances in tech (Like EFI to come)



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    And I'm not sure if you have the sticker on yours 83GTRAG , but I like this decal better as it matches what the GLX had

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    As posted by x, I changed the backseat. I knew what the GT (non vert)ones looked like in pictures, but I didn't have a clear example because when I bought the car the back seat was toast, as the guy stored all the crap from his garage in there. I may have been able to save it, but when you get the chance to use a part from a 56 ford, you take it. My intention was to try and restore the backseat eventually, if it didn't cost me an arm and a leg ( I am on disability and have to measure out my funds very carefully)

    I'm only even considering it on the recommendation of my appraiser, as I said in that previous post - nobody sits back there so I personally don't give two hoots what fabric is on it, but in the spirit of Foxbody I am trying to come as close as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 83GTJIM View Post
    Can we see a pic of the upholstery on the back seat? I'm curious as to why the seats would be all original EXCEPT for the back seat.

    If those are the original front seats, am I right thinking they should have the shoulder belt holder things near the headrest or maybe they were on top of rear interior trim panel for 1983??
    The seat belts come out from behind the front doors, on the trim panel like you said. Name:  seatbelt pass.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    The seat belts come out from behind the front doors, on the trim panel like you said. Name:  seatbelt pass.jpg
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    Yes they did but the seats are missing the shoulder belt loop that was attached to the seat near the headrest on convertibles. You can see the part here

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    I think this might be another indicator that the Marti report is correct and your seats have been swapped...but maybe Ford didn't include these on cars headed to Canada or they chose to leave them off your car.

    Either way it's a nice triple black convertible and I hope you can get that back seat to match.
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    I think the early convertibles may not have had the seat-mounted belt retainer. I have pics of more than one 1983 GT convertible where the retainer is absent from the front seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    I think the early convertibles may not have had the seat-mounted belt retainer. I have pics of more than one 1983 GT convertible where the retainer is absent from the front seats.
    I thought that might have been the case. As eluded to in my earlier post, I thought I remembered something odd about the seat belts in 83 convertibles. I checked my 83 GT convertible and it does have the seat mounted retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 83GTJIM View Post
    I thought that might have been the case. As eluded to in my earlier post, I thought I remembered something odd about the seat belts in 83 convertibles. I checked my 83 GT convertible and it does have the seat mounted retainers.
    @Jim , where exactly does it attach to the seat ? I can't see anywhere on my seats where a bracket could even go (although I can totally see why they put them in because the belts are a pain)
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    The big question is this, does anyone sell backseat upholstery ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    @Jim , where exactly does it attach to the seat ? I can't see anywhere on my seats where a bracket could even go (although I can totally see why they put them in because the belts are a pain)
    Look at the last picture in post #17...it attaches to the bottom side of the head rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTD View Post
    The big question is this, does anyone sell backseat upholstery ?
    Yes, TMI does, but you will have to go through a supplier who will drop ship it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwguardian View Post
    Look at the last picture in post #17...it attaches to the bottom side of the head rest.
    Yah I can clearly see it attaches to the seat, the idea was how. As there is no holes, or a bracket or anything of the sort on my seat - so as was mentioned, it's likely that mine just didn't come with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwguardian View Post
    Yes, TMI does, but you will have to go through a supplier who will drop ship it...
    Do you have a link for the bench seat for an 83 vert ? Because TMI doesn't make it. I've checked.
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