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    Default Truck Headlights: Why?

    So I've always wondered this, and i'm sure there's someone here who knows. Why do some base model, more fleet-oriented trucks get sealed beam headlights? I don't know if it's even true anymore, i haven't seen one from the last 5 years or so that has this except maybe the GM van chassis.

    Here's what I mean: Fleet Super Duty front end:
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    Why, dammit?! WHY?! And i don't believe it's to save cost. They have to design and build a whole different headlight/marker light assembly and maybe grille too!
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    Cheaper and easier/ cost effective to replace when dummies knock then out. The hid/led light assemblies are easily $1000. Each. $20 bulb is cheap.
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    ^^^^^^^ What He said!

    It's amazing what damage these non owners can do to the average truck. Much cheaper and easier to replace the Halogen bulb and you can pick it up at virtually any parts store. Also larger fleet owners can stock replacement bulbs for multiple truck brands and not have to worry about it.
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    I suppose that makes sense. I imagine sealed beam headlights are starting to not necessarily be "in stock" at auto parts stores, hence seeing this less now. I don't believe I've seen a Transit or new model '17 Super Duty with that kind of arrangement. Or even the previous Super Duty...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrEFI View Post
    I suppose that makes sense. I imagine sealed beam headlights are starting to not necessarily be "in stock" at auto parts stores, hence seeing this less now. I don't believe I've seen a Transit or new model '17 Super Duty with that kind of arrangement. Or even the previous Super Duty...
    I believe I have seen a new Transit van with the sealed beam headlights here locally, but I could be wrong. I haven't seen a '17 Super Duty yet, and it will be interesting to see how they do that with the new headlight setup.

    I know the Super Duty's from 1999-2010 or 2011 had the "fleet" sealed beams. Can't remember on the 2012-2016.
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    I don't think we are supposed to link to other forums but suffice it to say if you do a search that seams to be a commonly discussed topic amongst the SD fans as well. It looks to me they haven't done those sealed beams since 2004 based on the very limited digging around I did. I did see where the wiring harness is the same on at least some of them and Ford used a wiring harness adapter that plugged in one socket and converted it to the other which I found interesting and that part number may have a use in many other applications I think.

    EDIT: I see where Trey says they did this for many more years then what I saw. I am sure that is accurate as again, I only did a very superficial search.
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    Punch your lights out. Hit the pavement....


    Yup, sealed beam IMHO...its all been downhill since 1985 model year, when Ford put the LSC and it then got 'apped" by the later SVO/Aero Mustang headlamps into mass production.

    Same overseas, as soon as the English joined the European Union, they suddenly made ugly integrated headlamp cars.

    Even the great CitroŽn stylist Trevor Fiore said of the integrated headlamp Jaguar XJ-S "It lookes like a cat sick with myxomatosis".

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    Rest of the Werlt "myxo"




    After the 1939 Fords, the US headlamp regulation banned integrated head lamps.

    I'm a purist. Inches, US gallons, feet, and sealed beam headlamps. Anything else is unconstitutional....


    But if you wanna pay 1000 dollars for headlamsp, its all good. Just makes Ch**a rich....
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