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    Just wanted to say hey to all the four eye enthusiasts. Picked up a 1982 Mustang GL notchback that looks to be pretty original... Check it out.

    https://youtu.be/97kuP6Ws2Ho

    I look forward to test driving it sometime soon. It has been sitting since at least 2011.

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    Looks like a great project. Welcome to FEP!
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    Niceand Welcome.

    Since you have Low mount Grey E1 block you also have a C4 Transmission, and the last year of the Bcode 3.3 in the Mustang.

    Downgraded to 87 hp that year, 4 speed gearbox was not an option. They are a great, relaxed car to drive.

    Check VIN, door post,



    and your Dearborn buck tag.


    decode here http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...ck-tag-decoder

    Is the axle the 2.47:1 7.5", or the 2.73 6.7.


    The axle has a tag on it, mine was code WGC OG24 2.73 6.7 S xxxx (Sterling non limited slip)




    I'm looking importing to NZ an 82 3.3 auto hatchaback to replace my crashed 1981.


    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...34#post1409434

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    So... It cranks & runs!!! I'll post a video of it when I get a chance.
    Last edited by D2FOX4EYE; 01-02-2017 at 06:50 AM.

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    Thanks everyone. I'll get the code and post them... The buck tag & rear end tag are still there.

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    Here is the rear end tag info...

    WGX S 2E19
    2 73 7 5 S275C (is what it looks like)

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    Great, you have the bomb proof C4 and 7.5 Axle


    Ahh, Wade in Cumberland County, North Carolina!

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    Looks like I actually have a "C5" Trans!

    Trans tag info...
    PEN G E2
    E2DP CA
    (from what I understand for the Mustang it should be E2"Z"P CA not "D") but it does not show any signs of ever being changed.

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    Previous owner said it has sat in his driveway for at least 5-6 years due to the exhaust was cut off. So I had to see if it would crank & run...

    Check it out.

    https://youtu.be/b_L4ah2wWvg

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    Finished up the exhaust... Went for the first test drive.

    https://youtu.be/nyWo3Puc5WM

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    Started to restore the original 14 x 5 steel wheels.

    https://youtu.be/kJcg1f5JMIU

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    I like the natural, simple way this rebuld is progressing.

    14" wheel are a great improvment for handling and general ride. Its looking like a very nice project.

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    Finished re-painting the wheels, got my new tires (205/70R14) and was able to find some NOS Ford dog-dish hub caps that were used on the 1982 SSP cars back in the day...

    https://youtu.be/wIxP9i72q4k

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2FOX4EYE View Post
    Looks like I actually have a "C5" Trans!

    Trans tag info...
    PEN G E2
    E2DP CA
    (from what I understand for the Mustang it should be E2"Z"P CA not "D") but it does not show any signs of ever being changed.
    Ford designs a part, or sub-assembly of parts, either for generic use or for a specific model. Ford then uses their design in/on as many model lines and models as possible. Every part on a Mustang does not have a "Z" in the third place of the engineering or part number prefix.

    In this case, your transmission was originally engineered for a 1982 Granada.
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    Thanks Foxchassis. With that being said, I would say it is the original trans to the car.

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    These L6 motors actually fascinate me. I have ideas of doing one some day with a side mounted Eaton. Be interesting, if not particularly powerful.
    1983 Mustang G.T. No-option stripper- I like strippers.
    5.0, GT40P heads, Comp Cams XE270HR-12 on 1.6 rockers, TFI spring kit, Weiand 174 blower, Holley 750 mechanical secondarys, Mishimoto radiator, Edelbrock street performer mechanical pump, BBK shortys, T-5 conversion, 8.8 rear, 3.73 gears, carbon fiber clutches, SS Machine lowers, Maximum Motorsport XL subframes, "B" springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianj View Post
    These L6 motors actually fascinate me. I have ideas of doing one some day with a side mounted Eaton. Be interesting, if not particularly powerful.
    That would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianj View Post
    These L6 motors actually fascinate me. I have ideas of doing one some day with a side mounted Eaton. Be interesting, if not particularly powerful.
    It is...interesting, powerfull, but also very complicated, because 1978 to 1983 3.3'S were downgraded to cast iron rod econo engines, as from 1969 on wards, the castings and reliabity was downgraded due to cost cutbacks. Heads improved, ignition, emissions, induction, cam profiles, gearboxes and carbs got better, but everything else performance and factor of safety declined.

    The I6 is always normally way more reliable than any other engine, but when pressed, in the same way the Essex V6 was a lottery, so is the I6

    But ya know, $2500 always gets you 13.5 seconds, even with an old automatic C5 equiped X code 3.3 with a 400 dollar turbo.


    On 13 pounds boost, you can get 84.76 mph at 8.93 secs over the 1/8 th mile and 92.68 mph at 13.879 sec



    On 20 pounds boost 85.45 mph at 8.907 secs 1/8 mile with 2600 pounds makes 252.10 flywheel HP and 226.89 rear wheel HP from http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatoreigth.php
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    102.5 mph 1/4 mile with 2600 pounds is 224.62 rear wheel HP from http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php.



    One Chinese turbo, a rising rate fuel pump, an intercooler, and 3.3, you are golden for a few seconds on the 1320. http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-turbo-for-3-8

    Then you get this.




    In a racing setting, if you Add this....




    and ultimately use a stock late model 3.3 engine,

    you get this










    Quote Originally Posted by MustangSix
    Why do I feel something pulling my leg?

    Why engine break? Because Racecar.......Cast rods + cast pistons + 7500 rpm = BOOM!


    So adding a blower, while simple, takes a heck of a lot more work to avoid a pile of ferric oxide...But Yes You Can!!!!!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-bh9xzCMvw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeOS_8-KJ4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJUrQRzQeF4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOWFECDUxEw



    balldrick is a Scaffolder,Rigger,Crane Driver from Rockhampton Australia with a penchant for really hard out 250 Falcon round bodies....

    Quote Originally Posted by balldrick
    Quote Originally Posted by Broncitis
    Can you tell us a little more about the build, is that a square or oval port m90, what will be your drive ratio and estimated boost and what are some of your internals, I'm glad to see another m90 coming up, I think you will be impressed, depending on alot of factors a 2.5.1 should put you at about 8-9 pounds, I ran mine at 2.65.1 and its a little much in the 200, gonna bring it down around 8 psi, absolutely great looking build and can't wait to hear how it runs, I'm getting to excited about another m90 build, lets not forget that great AL head that makes it all possible, compliments of classicinlines.
    OK, its a oval port (third generation i think) with a Yellow terra snout extention, 12 counter weight crank from Aussie EF Falcon, ballancer is 6 rib serpintine to match blower, I will be getting a blower pulley made for about a 7 to 8 psi (worried about head gasket if i go to high) 200 rods(6.27 inch) Rover stroker 4.6 forged pistons(made by KB)3.720 inch(comp. dist- 1.195),Classic inline head,oversize valves, 250 crossflow anti-pump up lifters,Crow Cam (i sent my engine specs and this is what they made me) 63689 l/c 112 is 222/230 @ .050" 280/289
    advertised .445"/.450" lift hydraulic.186 holden pushrods, yellow terra roller rockers, Classicinline 4 barrel manifold (they also helped me out with the tappit cover,Dissy,leads,various nuts and bolts etc. all packed and shiped really well, THANKS), Mighty deamon 595 blow-through carb, water to air barrell intercooler,bypass valve, plus blow-off valve as a pressure release for safty, MSD 6BTM, C4-2500 stall, alloy radiator,electric water pump and thermo fans. I brought one of the first heads and been slowly getting parts as i have funds and getting real close to being finished, I cant wait.

    Broncitis has done similar stuff. He now has a F150 truck with a 4.9 six, but has had an Early Bronco with Supercharged 200


    His photobucket shows it (some of his earlier pictures have been removed)

    http://s717.photobucket.com/user/bro...?sort=3&page=2

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    The true hint to how complicated Supercharging is on even a V6 is looking at the work Rick from the Four Eyed Fox forums had to do to get this Ford T-bird SuperCoupe set up below to work with a properly sized intercooler and with better bends and piping. That's what was needed to cover off the extra 31 cubic inches of bored and stroked 3.8 that came from a 210 Bhp 1989 "Supercoupe" T-Bird

    http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...ix-quot/page10


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    Just a quick update on the car... no rust anywhere, motor & trans are in great shape, body is straight & the car cleaned up pretty nice. Installed new headliner, radiator hoses, water pump... ect. It will need a oil pan gasket sometime soon but over all the car is pretty sweet.

    https://youtu.be/AfleifOpnNw

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2FOX4EYE View Post
    Just wanted to say hey to all the four eye enthusiasts. Picked up a 1982 Mustang GL notchback that looks to be pretty original... Check it out.

    https://youtu.be/97kuP6Ws2Ho

    I look forward to test driving it sometime soon. It has been sitting since at least 2011.
    Hey yall! New to the forum but have been using it for info for years!
    I have the same car! It's all original I6 Auto and has been sitting for 6 years as well. I turned the motor over manually and with a little starting fluid she cranked right up. I should have drained the fuel and put fresh gas in, but plans are to swap the 89 331 Stroker that I've been building. Love these cars! Didn't want to start a new thread- Anyone know if there is any kind of demand for these motors/transmissions? It'll probably end up being another item in the garage collecting dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ld82GL View Post
    Hey yall! New to the forum but have been using it for info for years!
    I have the same car! It's all original I6 Auto and has been sitting for 6 years as well. I turned the motor over manually and with a little starting fluid she cranked right up. I should have drained the fuel and put fresh gas in, but plans are to swap the 89 331 Stroker that I've been building. Love these cars! Didn't want to start a new thread- Anyone know if there is any kind of demand for these motors/transmissions? It'll probably end up being another item in the garage collecting dust.

    LOL, none really.

    They are around everywhere, and reliable...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-A39lp6Qkk
    and they j-u-s-t can do a wet burnout with 58 rwhp

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGlcQRXXqw

    If you need to offload it, read this, https://fordsix.com/viewtopic.php?f=...575275#p575275


    and post here https://fordsix.com/viewforum.php?f=86

    3.3 coupes were the whole reason Ford sold 417000 by 4-17 1965...ultimate care free engine.

    In line sixes remain the funniest Ford engine ever...they also sold in real volume from 1979 to 1981, but with only 85 to perhaps 87 or 91 hp (65 to 67 rwhp with a stick, less than 58 with a C3/C4/C5) , they were always the lamest Pony's ever. Modified, they are 35 mpg at 45 to 55 mph engines, even a good 4.9 EFI F150 can do 32, but the way Ford let it out from 1963 to 1983, it was a total turkey. The are the most responsive engines to the right modifications, 50 years ago, it was nothing to get 125 rwhp out of em, basically as much as a stock 5.0 2V 1982 GT engine.

    http://cometcentral.com/tech/hm6/page3.html

    They are like a T code 200 i6 65-68 or an L code 250 i6 70-73 Mustang....numbers match cars aren't much unless they are 5.0's or 5.8's in the Stang world. Basically, an I6 is a door stop to let in its 5.0 equiped volume sellers.

    Like those early Stangs, what works is always headers, triples, a set of 3.55's, 3.45's, a V8 T5, and just a little more bling.
    https://fordsix.com/viewtopic.php?f=...547991#p547991

    Quote Originally Posted by Varilux
    I've often heard the phrase "don't fear the gear," but now I understand it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Varilux
    All in all, the 3.55 makes all the gears in the T5 fall into line. With the 3.25, 55-60mph was just a pain (4th felt like it was too short, 5th just didn't have a lot of power). I was at right around 1600rpm at that speed in 5th. Now I'm around 1800rpm at 60mph, and that seems to be nicely in the power band.

    These things then become the ultimate 2200 mile across America cruisers


    If you leave the I6 engine as it is, and modify it to give 5.0 performance, they always mess people up, and if its a show car, it'll work.

    An I6 with good carbs, cam, a T5, typically makes about 140 rwhp and low 15's after spending


    To do that, you have to be able to legally add something like this...

    https://fordsix.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76577

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwoxE4JZaeE

    If you use three Carter YFA's or Holley 1946's it might pass an inspection if you leave the emissions gear on it, or register it as a classic.

    Same with the Vintage In-lines Aluminum head, able to generate 235 flywheel hp with a 4bbl 390, 212 rwhp with an Autolite 480 cfm carb, and do flat 13's in a 2600 pound auto 65.

    The heads are 2000 bare with intake, and sound great and create excellent power

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ok3NGxcvR8

    The Fox six cylinder coupe was sold world wide from 79 to 82 , in RHD form because it was so easy to convert.

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleterry View Post
    Had a few problems the last month or so, trying to get it going again for summer. A perished fuel line meant a mysterious lack of fuel pressure into the engine bay and led to me missing one of my favorite shows at the beginning of the season.

    That's all fixed now though, along with new fuel lines all over, and a basic service (plugs, air filter). She's running better than ever before now, and I got her out to an American car meet at an American themed diner that's recently reopened near me;


    These days, an iron in liner is very easy to hop up without removing emissions gear...the I6 forum guys imported about 30 iron Aussie 2V 250 heads between 2002 and 2005 and then they made between 140-150 Aluminum Classic In lines castings for real hot 150 to 265 hp 3.3 liter sixes between 2005 to 2014...


    http://mustang6association.org/

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