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    Default Traditional painted pinstriping

    Getting closer to some final touches and wanted opinions on pin striping before I start looking around for places.

    Are there still places out there that can replicate the painted on body line and bumper cover pinstripes? Can a custom shop accurately redo these or is this a dead art and I should look for a place that does the stick on ones?

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    I would use tape
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    Tape will be much easier and cheaper. There are still pinstrippers out there that do excellent work and many of them are reasonable in their pricing, but again it will cost more than you installing a tape pinstripe.

    If you want to do it yourself, here are some excellent tools that will help.

    http://www.eastwood.com/paints/pinstriping.html

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    I do not think I feel comfortable learning and attempting to paint these myself.

    The body stripes are two different thicknesses. Are there tapes available to cover the range needed?

    What would be the pros and cons of either?

    With paint it would be more difficult to buff later due to the added thickness to the surface I would think. Tape could be the same but can also start to peel. Would putting the painted ones over the clear coat be an issue or would the tape have potentially equal issues?

    How would over all longevity compare between the two? I'm looking for original but want the best option for looks and wearability. I'm good with tape on the bumper mouldings but am currently leaning to paint on the body,

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    i still hand paint, airbrush, and hand pinstripe. for those that are "keepers of the craft", you'll find sign painters referred to as "letterheads" and pinstripers called "pinheads".

    you might look here:
    http://www.pinheadlounge.com/search/canada/


    normally straight boring stripes i make with vinyl unless they want paint. high performance vinyl lasts 10+ years in the sun/snow/etc. cheap "fleet" vinyl cracks and shrinks.

    i would not advise buying one shot paint unless you're also going to buy the hardener that you'll use a few drops of, and the prekleano($60/gal) to remove the wax.

    call a sign shop and find one near you. make sure they use the good vinyl. i restripe cars and my work is always better than the original. matching the stripes is easy for me. i use a micrometer to match the widths and gap, and a vinyl color chart to match the color. then the computer spits out perfect stripes, perfectly spaced, and i have at it.

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    I think factory pinstripes were done with this tool:
    http://www.eastwood.com/beugler-43-9...inch-wide.html
    I am pretty sure this is what was used on my 68 cougar from the factory, could it be done this way into the 70's and 80's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob342 View Post
    i still hand paint, airbrush, and hand pinstripe. for those that are "keepers of the craft", you'll find sign painters referred to as "letterheads" and pinstripers called "pinheads".
    you might look here:
    http://www.pinheadlounge.com/search/canada/
    normally straight boring stripes i make with vinyl unless they want paint. high performance vinyl lasts 10+ years in the sun/snow/etc. cheap "fleet" vinyl cracks and shrinks.
    i would not advise buying one shot paint unless you're also going to buy the hardener that you'll use a few drops of, and the prekleano($60/gal) to remove the wax.
    call a sign shop and find one near you. make sure they use the good vinyl. i restripe cars and my work is always better than the original. matching the stripes is easy for me. i use a micrometer to match the widths and gap, and a vinyl color chart to match the color. then the computer spits out perfect stripes, perfectly spaced, and i have at it.

    Thanks for the link Rob. I found two local on there, one of which I had already written down that I previously found via Google.

    I'm torn between matching the original paint on for restoration purposes and the vinyl. It will probably end up coming down to cost and convenience.

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    I think factory pinstripes were done with this tool:
    http://www.eastwood.com/beugler-43-9...nch-wide.htmlB
    I am pretty sure this is what was used on my 68 cougar from the factory, could it be done this way into the 70's and 80's?
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    The link is not working. It goes to the Eastwood site but to an error page.

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    I believe this is what you might be looking for and what he was trying to link to.

    http://www.eastwood.com/beugler-pro-...html?reltype=3

    http://www.eastwood.com/beugler-43-9...html?reltype=3

    Generally you would not buff any area of the car that has either painted or vinyl pinstripes as most are on the surface and would be buffed away before any surrounding paint.

    As mentioned today's vinyls are very durable and are hard to beat. If you want the original style then painted is the way to go. When I did restoration type work with pinstripes I would bury them under the clear coat for additional longevity, but as long as the pinstripe is done with quality paints such as One Shot (w/ hardner) then you won't have any issues.

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    Thanks for the links. I'm still not going to attempt to do this myself. I've learned a lot of things and done so many for the first time over the last few years but I do not think I want to attempt this myself; not this time.

    I've been in contact with two people so far. One is currently situated an hour away but will be back to his usual location in the spring just 10 miles out. He does paint and vinyl and figured about $150 for what I need.

    The second guy is just north of the city and usually works out of his garage. He only does paint and mainly uses "One Shot" enamel paints bit could also use "House of Kolor". He says it's usually $50 per side for these types of factory stripes but figures $200 max. The bonus is he does the occasional house call which I think at work with my schedule best right now.

    Another question: were the factory body stripes a flat finish? He says he only has glosses (not that it really matters I guess).

    Hopefully the third guy I called returns my message.
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    Excuses! Excuses! I mean Come On!!!!!

    I completely understand. Pinstripping was something that I never did. Once I found a local guy when I had my shop, I just called him for any and all work such as that. It wasn't worth the time and trouble IMHO to screw it up and then have to fix it. Besides he did great work and IMHO was cheap for the amount of time it would take me to do the same work.

    As for the original stripes, I wouldn't say they were flat, but I also wouldn't say they are a gloss or at least not a high gloss. Initially the new pinstripes might look a bit glossy, but in my experience the gloss dies down or the sheen seems to dull just a bit after a month or so on the car. After that they seem to have just a bit of sheen, but not too much. Besides the stripes are small enough that it shouldn't really be that noticeable either way.

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    I fixed the link. Mike
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    I have done two vinyl pin stripe jobs so far. One for a buddy of mine as a surprise and one on my Crown Victoria. Both came out fantastic! Doing painted stripes would make me nervous. I put a little dab of clear coat on all of the edges to prevent them from peeling up. So far all jobs still look like new.



    I then detailed his entire car....just because:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIo09ZmXgOw

    BUT back on point here......my crown vics pin stripe job:

    http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post758175

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    You just need to pop over to India at the Royal Enfield factory to have this guy paint them.

    https://youtu.be/UsTIMxeO_ng
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    Quote Originally Posted by wraithracing View Post


    As mentioned today's vinyls are very durable and are hard to beat. If you want the original style then painted is the way to go. When I did restoration type work with pinstripes I would bury them under the clear coat for additional longevity, but as long as the pinstripe is done with quality paints such as One Shot (w/ hardner) then you won't have any issues.

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    Burying the stripes in the clear is a viable option for additional longevity. Do remember however if you want to change the design later you are screwed. leaving it on top be it tape or hand painted leaves the option for removal without a repaint

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKengineering View Post
    I fixed the link. Mike
    That's a cool tool. I never measured the factory stripe widths and space between them but it seems right it close to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    I have done two vinyl pin stripe jobs so far. One for a buddy of mine as a surprise and one on my Crown Victoria. Both came out fantastic! Doing painted stripes would make me nervous. I put a little dab of clear coat on all of the edges to prevent them from peeling up. So far all jobs still look great.

    BUT back on point here......my crown vics pin stripe job:

    http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post758175
    Looks great! Unfortunately with the end in sight on this car, I cannot find the effort to even attempt this...this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMW Rider View Post
    You just need to pop over to India at the Royal Enfield factory to have this guy do it.
    That's pretty cool! I'm too OCD to be an artist and to even think of doing freehand like this! I can cut a good edge painting in the house but this is a special talent!

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    Burying the stripes in the clear is a viable option for additional longevity. Do remember however if you want to change the design later you are screwed. leaving it on top be it tape or hand painted leaves the option for removal without a repaint
    This was brought up to me long ago but at the time I was already spraying primer I think. Hindsight would have had me pre-plan for it but...

    One of the guys I was speaking with about this project said that for a lot of the hot rods and custom projects he does the owners clear over the striping. Unfortunately the clear is on already and already polished so whichever I choose will be exposed to the elements.

    I do like 87gtVIC's idea of dabbing some clear on the ends of vinyl stripes if I go that route rather than the paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW Rider View Post
    You just need to pop over to India at the Royal Enfield factory to have this guy paint them.

    https://youtu.be/UsTIMxeO_ng
    I can guarantee that guy has only done maybe 2 or 3 tanks before this one. . . .

    OH! I meant 2 or 3 THOUSAND that is!

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