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    Default Curious, numbers of 2.3 and 5.0 Black Magics

    Is there any info on the breakdown between the numbers of 2.3 and 5.0 Black Magics? I know there is for the 20th Anniversary Edition........
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    You also have to include the 6cyl in the mix. My 81 originally had a 3.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by mustangxtreme View Post
    You also have to include the 6cyl in the mix. My 81 originally had a 3.3
    Hmmmm, wasn't aware of that.

    Is there any place that breaks down the numbers by 2.3, 3.3, 5.0, etc? Or maybe has the number by engine codes per year (A, B, D,F), like XXX of A, XXX of B, XXX of D and XXX of F?
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    I have (non-turbo) 2.3L, 3.3L I6, 4.2L V8 and 5.0L engines in the Black Magic database/registry. I haven't seen one yet with a turbo 2.3L or 3.8L V6 engine.

    The only number I have seen that was by engine was a facsimile from Lincoln-Mercury, posted by BRAD DODGE, for the 1982 model year only. The fax said there were 1417 BMs and 823 of them had the 5.0L engine. I haven't seen a Marti report yet for a 1982 BM so I can't say if the total number is accurate.
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    on my marti is has the breakdown for all capri engines for the year, maybe need to get an elite one..

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    Thanx. Currently researching 1983 model year. As mentioned, my 20th is a 1 of 362. Trying to research Black Magic 1983 engine option numbers.
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    Did you see one with the turbo?
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    Fidel: Which of your Marti reports has the breakdown for all Capri engines for the year?
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    Mick, im sorry maybe thats not right, but I am assuming that my marti for my 1983 black magic states " 3210" with engine transmission combo and if they only made 469 black magic's that stat must be for all 1983 capris?

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    granted this doesnt include auto's, or 5 speed 5.0 cars.
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    The engine/trans stat on your deluxe report is for all 1983 Capri 3-door hatchbacks. L, GS, RS, Black Magic, Crimson Cat....all of them. (The 5.0L engine was not available in the [base] Capri or the Turbo RS.)

    Also, the stat on your report is only for the trans in your car (4-speed SROD). There would be another engine/trans combo stat for the T-5 trans. So there were more than 3210 Capris with the 5.0L engine in 1983. There was no auto behind the 5.0L engine in 1982 or 1983.
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    Also, according to Marti Auto Works, there were 469 Black Magic but only 400 Capris with 1C paint and YA trim. That means there were 69 BMs painted 9D in 1983.
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    Exactly! 69 white lighting's.

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    None in the database/registry yet, though.

    Technically, they're not "white lightning". That was just a advertising/marketing term. The white ones are still called "black magic".
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    Ohhhhhh learn something new everyday..

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    Black Thunder and White Lightning would have been better names.
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    My main question was kinda geared towards the 1983 year options. How many 5.0's were there, specifically.
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    Oh I see, I think that stat is unknown...

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    Well, that's no good. I want numbers, dangit!!!
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    Although if you look at the data base, every 83 has an F (5.0) code except some have a 3 which may be a typo.

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    The 1983s in the database with the 3.8L V6 (engine code "3") are Crimson Cats.
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    Ooooo thanks for clearing that up. So it may be that all black magic's had a 5.0 in 83? Or not if the cc's had 6cyl possible for bm as well... interesting! !!
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    According to Mercury books the non-turbo 2.3L was standard and 3.8L and 5.0L were optional in both.
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    Just uncertain as to how msny of each..... correct?

    So, 1983 Black Magic with 5.0 is a good thing..... just no numerical data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxChassis View Post
    According to Mercury books the non-turbo 2.3L was standard and 3.8L and 5.0L were optional in both.
    Interesting! !!

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    Marshall...that is correct...we do not know engine breakdowns for either the BM or the CC in any year.
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