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  1. #26

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    APD, I responded to your email. Thank you for taking the time to take and send those pics.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    A quick walk around album of my 86 stripes: http://s420.photobucket.com/user/GT3...?sort=9&page=1

    A few examples:






    1986 Saleen #145
    now 50k miles - still 98% original.

    I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's ass about the clueless anymore.

    Previous: 79 Cobra, 82 GT, 83 GT, 85 Twister, 85.5 SVO, 86 GT, 87 GT, 91 Saleen, etc....

  3. #28

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    Wow, thank you 1986Saleen...are your stripes are the originals?
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopGear85 View Post
    1986Saleen...are your stripes the originals?
    "Mostly".
    A few individual pieces have been replaced as needed.
    1986 Saleen #145
    now 50k miles - still 98% original.

    I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's ass about the clueless anymore.

    Previous: 79 Cobra, 82 GT, 83 GT, 85 Twister, 85.5 SVO, 86 GT, 87 GT, 91 Saleen, etc....

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    Great detail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyintiger View Post
    Great detail!
    I agree. Those pics (the ones 1986Saleen took), along with the ones sent to me by Airplanedriver and Conmech are exactly what I needed. Thank you to everyone for taking the time to do this for me (and 85-0073). Both of us greatly appreciate it.

    I'll add mine to this thread once I have them installed.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    FEP Power Member conmech's Avatar
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    Hey, anything to help you get yer stripped butt done correctly, er, I mean.....

    No problem.....
    conmech - aka Marshall
    Pending build-1983 Mercury Capri RS NOT staying as it left the showroom floor......
    Sonic blue pearl, sand beige, netted halos, FR500 wheels and shiny under the hood.

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    So I started trying to lay out the decals (on the car) today, and this is gonna be a lot harder than I thought it would be. Plus I'm gonna install a GT hood decal, so that's another huge graphic to add to the group. I'm nervous...
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopGear85 View Post
    So I started trying to lay out the decals (on the car) today, and this is gonna be a lot harder than I thought it would be. Plus I'm gonna install a GT hood decal, so that's another huge graphic to add to the group. I'm nervous...
    Spray a lite soapy water mix down first, lay the decal down. This will allow the decal to float a little. When it is in the right place, squeegee out from the center and let it dry.
    1986 Ford Mustang GT-

    Not much stock stuff left
    347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
    Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
    Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering

    1981 Mustang GT-

    Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
    In the middle of rebuild

    1986 LX Sedan-

    Plans to be determined...

    "Every day I learn how much I don't know"

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    I got some decal application gel from Phoenix graphics, which is supposed to give me a lot more time than soapy water...I just think I'm intimidated because once it's on, it's on and these graphics are a huge part of the Saleen look. I think I'm gonna get my wife to help me with the hood decal and the door graphics so when I start to squeegee they stay put.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    FEP Power Member Mikestang's Avatar
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    Cool, never used the gel, heard of it though. Good luck!
    1986 Ford Mustang GT-

    Not much stock stuff left
    347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
    Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
    Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering

    1981 Mustang GT-

    Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
    In the middle of rebuild

    1986 LX Sedan-

    Plans to be determined...

    "Every day I learn how much I don't know"

  12. #37

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    Thanks. I'll post about how well it worked compared to soap and water (which I've used before). Hopefully it works as they claim and it gives me as much time as I need to make sure it's placed perfectly. That GT hood graphic is huge and it worries me the most.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    Using the soap and water or the gel is an excellent help to getting your graphics placed just right. Although I would recommend you spend the time before hand laying them out exactly where you want them. Use tape, pencil marks, and a tape measure to get them placed as accurately as possible. Use the tape as a hinge on the top or the side of the graphics to help locate them. Then remove the backing paper, spray your gel/soapy water solution and lay them back down in place. Then adjust as needed before beginning to squeeze the solution out from under the graphics. You will still have your top paper on the graphics to help with your positioning. Once all your solution is removed, then remove the top paper layer and double check your graphics for bubbles, etc. and work them out as needed.

    Good Luck!

    Trey
    ​Trey

    "I Don't build it hoping for your approval! I built it because it meets mine!"

    "I've spent most of my money on Mustangs, racing, and women... the rest I just wasted."

    Mustangs Past: Too many to remember!
    Current Mustangs:
    1969 Mach 1
    1979 Pace Car now 5.0/5 speed
    1982 GT Stalled RestoModification
    1984 SVO Still Waiting Restoration
    1986 GT Under going Wide Body Conversion Currently

    Current Capris:
    1981 Capri Roller
    1981 Capri Black Magic Roller Basket Case
    1982 Capri RS 5.0/4spd T-top Full Restoration Stalled in TX
    1984 Capri RS T-top Roller
    1983-84 Gloy Racing Trans Am/IMSA Body Parts

  14. #39

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    Well here's all I've been able to do by myself...it's the smallest decals I have to install, but they made an enormous impact.

    Check this out:



    Bumper Numbers!
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    ^^^^^^ Looks great. Good job, makes we want to install mine.
    Current Cars:
    1979 Mustang Ghia Coupe 5.0 3J Bright Blue
    1984 GT T top 306 5 speed "Black Mamba"
    1986 Saleen Black with Silver Stripes 86#009
    1986 Mustang GT Medium Canyon Red 5 speed 5.0
    1999 Mustang GT Convertible 35th anniversary 69K miles.
    2002 Nissan Maxima 6 Speed "Daily Driver"
    2009 Corvette 6 speed LS3

    1998 Cobra 71k miles Canary Yellow "Nana" SOLD

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    Thanks Mamba! These graphics are gonna totally transform my car and they will do the same to yours. I say get to a paint shop, buy some SEM charcoal, and spray your headlight buckets (and whatever else needs doing ). Then get yourself a set of graphics and go to town. Your Saleen is amazing in all black, but adding those silver graphics will take it to another level.

    I can't wait to have mine done. I'm hoping that since my wife is home tomorrow she can help me with the GT hood decal, and all the rocker stripes except the ones for the spats. Unfortunately I made a mistake when I painted those and I have to fix that before the graphics can go on...so it will be a few days before all mine are installed, but if I can get all those other ones done that will make an enourmous impact on the cars looks.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    You've come a long way, and what little I can see looks great. What did you decide, regarding the charcoal lower body?

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    Keep the pics comming!
    1986 Ford Mustang GT-

    Not much stock stuff left
    347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
    Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
    Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering

    1981 Mustang GT-

    Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
    In the middle of rebuild

    1986 LX Sedan-

    Plans to be determined...

    "Every day I learn how much I don't know"

  19. #44

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    In my first post I asked about whether or not the banner needed to be cut and applied separately ( meaning install "Saleen" and "mustang" individually) and after matching my graphic with the burn in from the original windshield banner, I thought I had things figured out (the curve in the windshield throwing me off)....now I'm not so sure.

    Check out this pic:



    Is it just me or are the "a, n, and g" in "Mustang" not aligned with the rest of the letters? It almost looks like starting with "t" the printing starting going up?

    This was what lead me to ask about cutting the graphic up to install it properly. I don't know if it's possible to put it on right without cutting those letters out so I can position them in line with the rest of the words.

    What do you think?







    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    Can you get a piece of 1" masking tape and run it along the bottom of the faded-in letters, then lay your new decal over it tightly? You might then shine a light through from inside the car and see how the new decal lines up at the bottom of the letters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyintiger View Post
    You've come a long way, and what little I can see looks great. What did you decide, regarding the charcoal lower body?
    Thanks! The pics make things look better than they are when you're up close, but I'm satisfied with what I've been able to do (I've never done anything like this before). Are you talking about the tutone? If so, my best guess is Saleen painted over it so my car will stay red down there and just have the silver rocker stripes. I imagine the original owner racked up a hefty bill with Saleen for all the extra painting and body work they had to do with this one.

    If that's not what you're talking about the. Please refresh my memory.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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    I am enjoying your thread on this subject...

    I am going to assume that the letters on the paper are "going up hill" because you have to follow the curve of the windshield. It would look kinda odd if it was straight like your orange tape line.

    I would also recommend placing tape on the inside of the glass under your ghost image letters to help guide you on placement. I can imagine that it will be difficult to get the new letters to match up perfectly with the original image. If it were me, I would probably try to polish out the old image.

    Remember, if you screw up, it is not the end of the world. Buy another set and try again.
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    Wouldn't you think those letters would be below (or going down instead of up) the rest, if they were following the curve in the windshield, because they are the last letters in the word (think rainbow effect).

    I don't know...they just look off to me.
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopGear85 View Post
    Wouldn't you think those letters would be below (or going down instead of up) the rest, if they were following the curve in the windshield, because they are the last letters in the word (think rainbow effect).

    I don't know...they just look off to me.
    If you were to measure down, say, 5" from the bottom of the molding all along the top of the wind shield, you will see that the imaginary line "curves up" at each end.
    86 SVO 2R Comp Prep
    86 SVO 9L Comp Prep
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    I took things to the extreme and I outlined all the burned in letters with a sharpie. I'm gonna cut out each letter and lay them in one at a time so it matches with the burned in original. Hopefully I'll have this done tomorrow, but I have to figure out what to do about my misshaped GT hood decal (my wife confirmed that it was cut wrong). I'm gonna call Phoenix graphics and see if they have any suggestions, otherwise I'm gonna make a template from my hood, place that over the misshaped decal, and then trim off what I don't need with a new razor. I'm just terrified about ruining the decal. I'm hoping phoenix graphics will tell me to bring in my crappy decal and they will cut it for me (or let me use one of theirs to make my cut lines off of).

    Fingers crossed, but wow have these graphics been a nightmare...even my rocker stripes are wrong (technically). On my car (and a few other 85's that I've seen) the stripes wrap around each part by a wheel opening and they wrap inside the door. The repop's I got from PAS aren't long enough to do that...which is disappointing and hard to live with (for me).
    Cheers!

    Mike (TopGear85)



    Have:
    85 Saleen #73-GT,2R,TuTone,Cruise,Pos,5spd,Charcoal
    ***August 2015 ROTM Winner!***

    Had:
    79PC-San Jose #2890
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Sand Beige
    86GT-9L,TuTone,5spd,T-Tops,Charcoal
    90LX-Oxford Wht,5spd,Sunroof,5.0 Hatchback
    90GT-Oxford Wht,5spd

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