can I just change the axels and the spider gears or do I have to change other things, thank you
I have a set of 28 spline mosers with the c clip eleminator but havent inistalled them yet
8.8 28 spline to a 31 spline
can I just change the axels and the spider gears or do I have to change other things, thank you
I have a set of 28 spline mosers with the c clip eleminator but havent inistalled them yet
stock 00 explorer 5.0 with 120k,comp XE274HR cam Edelbrock preformer air,fms shorty headers,x pipe and 40 series,under drive pullies, fresh t-5,king cobra 10.5 clutch,Hurst short throw shifter,fms alumin drive shaft, bbk frame conectors, 8.8 4;10 , MM camber caster plates, MM XD ADJ lower control arms
I think you will have to change the complete center section
+1.....Originally Posted by tonysilver82
Scott
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Previous set up...
306, Lunati flat tappet, Eddy Performer Heads, RPM intake, Holley 650DP, Shorty Headers, Flowmasters, 3.73, T5. 12.92 @109
Current set up,,,
408w, Internally balanced Scat rotating assy, Comp Hyd roller, Brodix heads, eddy air gap RPM intake, PowerjectionIII EFI, Longtube 1-3/4 headers, Flowmasters, 3.55 Cobra 31 spline diff w/Moser axles, TKO 600 5spd, Mcleod dual disc street clutch... ET... Traction Limited 11.93 @120mph
Yep, need to change carrier. Well worth the upgrade.
Bob Myers ©
84 Capri RS Turbo - Only a 4 banger - 1/8th 6.29@110, 1/4 9.87@137
ok thanks guys for the help
stock 00 explorer 5.0 with 120k,comp XE274HR cam Edelbrock preformer air,fms shorty headers,x pipe and 40 series,under drive pullies, fresh t-5,king cobra 10.5 clutch,Hurst short throw shifter,fms alumin drive shaft, bbk frame conectors, 8.8 4;10 , MM camber caster plates, MM XD ADJ lower control arms
dont you need special outer bearings to fit the larger diameter axles?
idk I bought the c clip eleminator's for it. I have the moser 28 spline axels now waiting to go in. If I could upgrade to the 31 with just a spider gear change I would have done that. The more I think abopout it the more incline to replacing the spool and doing the 31 splinedd axels anyways and just send back the 28's
stock 00 explorer 5.0 with 120k,comp XE274HR cam Edelbrock preformer air,fms shorty headers,x pipe and 40 series,under drive pullies, fresh t-5,king cobra 10.5 clutch,Hurst short throw shifter,fms alumin drive shaft, bbk frame conectors, 8.8 4;10 , MM camber caster plates, MM XD ADJ lower control arms
i have never done the swap, but it goes without saying the 31 spline axle is a larger diameter then the 28 spline, so if the bearings in the axle housing ends fit the 28, how would the 31 fit inside the I.D. of the bearing. i know i had a ranger 8.8 and an explorer 8.8 and the actual housing tubes were bigger on the explorer, buy about 1/2 diameter if i remember correctly
I don't believe that the shaft diameters are different.
1984 Mustang GT owned since 1991 (first car). Mercury Mountaineer GT-40P engine, some suspension mods, currently undergoing a five lug SN95 brake upgrade and more suspension mods. Some minor body and interior mods have been done as well.
2004 GT convertible, 2001 Taurus LX, 1994 F150, 1950 F-1 Ford Pickup
well i may be ignorant with this, but if they are the same diameters, then where does the increased strength come from? lets say a 1.5 inch round stock axle, cut with 28 splines, and a 1.5 inch round stock with 31 splines cut, at the end of the day, its the same strength because its the same exact axle round stock but just different teeth at the end, if anything given the axles are the same diameter, the 31 spline would be weaker since it would have more smaller splines then the 28 axle
more splines are stronger because they require a bigger diameter axle , the 28's step down to a smaller diameter after the bearing, I'm assuming the 31's should be closer to the same diameter as the bearing surface(bigger) from end to end.
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You are correct. The bearing surface(out by the wheels) is the same size 28 and 31 spline, I think it is 1.4". The axle gets smaller as it gets closer to the center of the axle on the 28 spline axles. 31 spline axles are close to the size at the bearing size for the full length.
Jess
Previously owned;
1979 Mustang, v6 swapped to EFI 393, custom installed m122 blower, 4r70w trans, Megasquirt II, T-top swaped in.
1990 Mustang, 545 BBF, C-4 with brake, ladder bars.
1983 Mustang, 1984 SVO Mustang
1984 Mustang convertible, v6 swapped to 351
1986 Mustang GT, 1989 Mustang GT convertible
1992 Mustang coupe, 4 swapped to 302
yea after i posted i read up on it, my knowledge between the two is from a ford ranger 4x4 where everyone swaps the entire explorer axle in so you can get the beefier axle housing, bigger end bearings and disc brakes, the explorer has bigger axle housing tubes so the bearings at the wheel side are bigger and stronger, so i never realized the 27 spline axle bottle necks near the carrier. thanks for the info guys, that kinda makes me want to kick myself for scrapping my explorer axle
I was thinking of the bearing surface when I said they were the same diameter too. I knew there weren't different bearings for the 31 splines.
1984 Mustang GT owned since 1991 (first car). Mercury Mountaineer GT-40P engine, some suspension mods, currently undergoing a five lug SN95 brake upgrade and more suspension mods. Some minor body and interior mods have been done as well.
2004 GT convertible, 2001 Taurus LX, 1994 F150, 1950 F-1 Ford Pickup
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