Thanks, it works very well
Thanks, it works very well
1986 Ford Mustang GT-
Not much stock stuff left
347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering
1981 Mustang GT-
Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
In the middle of rebuild
1986 LX Sedan-
Plans to be determined...
"Every day I learn how much I don't know"
I see how it all goes together.
I'm looking at low load, but I do like the tie in and seclusion of the Piper motorsportt system.
I'm only running low loads conversent witha 1977 Ford Cortina Six, but the whole tied into the frame rails tow bar system system is where I want to head. The benchmark I'm using is the kilogram loads used for a similar wheelbase, size and weight C/D class car, what the Jack Talenack based the Fox platform on was more the Cortina/European Granada in Opel Record/Commodore/Monza size, practically a direct copy. Loading wise, all Cortina/Tanuis/Commodores were total failures under Austrlain type loads, but that's why the Aussies limited the tow hitch ratings like the following.
Last edited by xctasy; 12-21-2014 at 09:25 PM.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
1986 Ford Mustang GT-
Not much stock stuff left
347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering
1981 Mustang GT-
Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
In the middle of rebuild
1986 LX Sedan-
Plans to be determined...
"Every day I learn how much I don't know"
Ok, Here's another spin... how'd you guys wire in your trailer lights w/o hacking up the harness?
- Ed
'85 Capri RS - "1BADMERC" -'00 GT40P motor & heads, Edelbrock RPM/Holley 650, E303 cam, full length BBK ceramics,5spd/flowmaster 2-chambers/373's
5 Lug conversion, cobra discs on all four corners, 1" drop
My cowl hood thread:
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?t=131334
How my hitch and trailer turned out
84 Mustang GT
95 F150
98 Ranger
12 Escape
94 Mustang Cobra
edman1000
My Mustang has European tail lights with amber turn indicators, but the wiring is the same.
The seven pin block connector type trailer hitch just needs the (1) brown, (2) red, (3) green, (4) yellow and (5) black (or White on the trailer earth) to be spliced into the line to one side of the tail lights. I use a pin, earth the trailer black wire to the shell at the back, and then use the brown, red, green, yellow wires with a pin or mamas sewing needel to source the blinkers, the back up lights, the pilot lights, and, after putting a nice block of 1 by 4 or granpas stick on the brake connected to the seat, Ican then check brake light operation.
Then I use a block connector with enough slots to link it all together.,
If you use eternal wire crimps you can leave the wring stock standard without cutting it, and supply power to the block conector.
Normal 7 pin convention pinouts from 1 to 7, are
Peg 1 "Signal Left" Left 1 = Yellow,
Peg 6 "Brake" Left 2 = Brown (sometimes swapped with Peg 7, Red)
Peg 5 "Service" Left 3 = Nothing
Peg 3 "Earth" Middle 4= White or Black (The earth for Trailer is white, or Black on the Car end)
Peg 2 "Auxilary/Reverse" Right 5= Nothing
Peg 7 "Tail" Right 6= Red (sometimes swapped with Peg 6, Brown)
Peg 4 "Signal Right" Right 7 = Green
Peg 5 and Peg 7 are for back-up/reversing lights, and as the reversing lights are not required here on New Zealand trailers made befroe 1995, I use my trailer hitch cable for data control, the spare Pins Left 3 and Right 5 plugs come in handy for my load sensors.
The Signal Left and Signal Right are Green with Brown Stripe and Red with a Brown Stripe.
Fox body Green with Brown Stripe ----> Tailer Peg 1 Yellow wire
Fox body Red with Brown Stripe ----> Trailer Peg 4 Green wire
Fox body brake lights have Green Wire with Brown Stripe both sides, but the left one is dual feed, anyone will do, and it goes to Peg 6, the Brake.
I used a six prong chocklate block conector to link the factory wiring loom to Peg 1, 4, 3, 6 and 7 from the drivers side rear.
Signal Left on the drivers side rear to Yellow Peg 1
Signal Right on the passenger side can be accessed by cutting into thecross over to passenger side rear wireloomb. The drivers side rear to Yellow is Peg 4
Earth the trailer to the body via a spademouth; since each bulb (brake, indicator, backup) is earthed separately on the plastic tailamp, your stuck with finding an earth to the body. New body earth is white to Peg 3
The same side, the Green with Brown stripe to Brown Peg 6.
The other Green with Brown stripe to the Trailer Peg 7 Red "Tail" wire.
As for the other stuff above, well, Nice stuff David.
Who needs a trailer anyway?
I found an old post on a trailer hitched 1983 T roof GT 5.0. Lookes like the wheel well mount type, although I can't be sure.
Last edited by xctasy; 02-11-2015 at 07:26 AM.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
My car is a JPN Export car with ZJ 1979-1984 Ford Fairlane (Australian) tailights blended in, along with JDM repeater lights in the front quarters. I've seen a Spanish Market 80 Notch with these tail lights, but I'm pretty sure the wiring is as per US Fox bodies, though.
I did my wire-up in an hour, with two chockolate block connectors
I accessed everything from the drivers side rear, running the external 7 pin from the drivers side under pumper to the holes in the passenger side rear, then to the drivers side rear. I had to drill no holes.
"Signal Left" on the drivers side rear to Yellow Peg 1. The source wire is Green with Brown sttripe. Cut and bare each end, then splice the Yellow in.
The "Brake", same side, the source solid Green' cut and bare each end, then splicewith to Brown Peg 6.
There is what lookes to be a small diameter Brown with Silver stripe wire, which heads to the passenger side rear. I cut and bared this, and linked it to "Tail" Right 6. Then there is the nice Red with Blue stripe, cut and bared to connect with the Peg 4 "Signal Right" Right 7 = Green
(Signal Right on the passenger side can be accessed by cutting into the cross over to passenger side rear wire loomb. The drivers side rear to Yellow is Peg 4)
NB//Earth the trailer to the body via a spademouth; since each bulb (brake, indicator, backup) is earthed separately on the plastic tailamp, your stuck with finding an earth to the body. New body earth is white to Peg 3
The other Green with Brown stripe to the Trailer Peg 7 Red "Tail" wire.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
My set up was especially easy, but for one thing.
The drivers side chassis rail and bumper horn is not symetrical or handed. Its its own shape, offset from parallel by about 5 degress, so that creates about 1/2 " of irregular custom fitting. The frame hasn't been bent, its site permanent reference marks are all good. Its just stamping variances.
The end plates center spacing from frame rail to frame rail ended up being splayed from the design 40-1/4" to a non perpendicular splay.
I decided to use both frame brackets cut from 1/4" plate, and add some strips of 1/8" to some M14 bolts (22mm head).
That resulted in me having to trial fit the parts again and again.
The arc welder and Igot a good work out
It took ages and I still have to pull the whole lot out and get the welding and design certified.
The 2" square tube was bent in a 20 Ton press to get the dip angle right for the tow hitch to come out low enough.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
Who certifies it? I had to have my "home made" trailer certified... what a joke that was. I'll put it this way, the lights worked so it passed.
1986 Ford Mustang GT-
Not much stock stuff left
347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering
1981 Mustang GT-
Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
In the middle of rebuild
1986 LX Sedan-
Plans to be determined...
"Every day I learn how much I don't know"
Non standard, non factory tow hitch. each inspection, everything non standard with out an engieering sign off has to be certified for design and wleding, so that the heat effected zones aren't siuspect, and that it has an engieering number and placard on it if its not a standard US Factroy Ford part.
Same for everyone one with a homebuilt trailer or a trailer hitch draw bar. If it falls off, or gets run into and there's any skiff of liabilty grey area, there's civil damages, and no insurance from my insurance company....
aH Gotta love NZ
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
Did you pre submit a design? Hope it all goes well for Ya.
1986 Ford Mustang GT-
Not much stock stuff left
347 NA power, CNC ported heads, Extrude honed Trick Flow Intake, Custom Cam
Suspension, custom k- member, TQ arm/pan hard rod... Much more
Restored and ready to race, made to go fast while cornering
1981 Mustang GT-
Old SCCA A-Sedan National Champ car
In the middle of rebuild
1986 LX Sedan-
Plans to be determined...
"Every day I learn how much I don't know"
Yeah, its bascially an E54 1987 Mitsubishi Galant tow bar like my sons old car, with special Mustang Fox endplates. There's nothing much to it, asside from catering for the frame rails.
I might end up doing just what you did, opening ending the 2 inch section, and external welding. The transport engineers here are pretty good, but Kiwis do a lot of modifications to there cars, so the engineers are restrictive to reduce there risks.
I'll tell you how I get on.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
Had one on my 84 , my grandpa had on it back in the day i cut it off first day i got it. Can't remember where he had it welded on at its been 17 years.
Hi,
a picture of a 79 mustang offered for sale. With trailer hitch.
We tend to pull caravans with our passenger cars.
There are 442.029 caravans on a population of 17 million people. And virtually no-one owns a truck.
My Ford Mondeo with 2 liter engine may pull 1800kgs/3968lbs.
I believe back in the day a mustang was allowed 1000/ 1100 kgs or 2200/2425lbs.
I'm trying to get in contact with someone with a registered pull weight in the papers of their 79-82 mustang. To copy it and show the government to get it added on my registration too.
Otherwise I need Ford to give that information. But I don't know who or where to ask. In 79 Mustangs weren't sold here by Ford.
I'd love to use my mustang to pull my caravan on holidays in the future.
Regards,
Hans.
There is a kit available in most auto parts stores to adapt the 5 light stop/signal to three on a trailer. Had one on my 86 years ago. Pulled a crashed 79 Grand Prix on a front bumper A-arm. The ol 5.0L forgot it was there in 5th even going up big hills at 70. That was with the 79 being full of parts and tools and weighing around 5500 lbs. biggest problem was stopping- and that sucked.
Hans
Thats outside Environmental Services Law Enforcement in Groningen...the first noted European discoverer of our country Abel Janszoon Tasman, was from your town. You commute though...your not from Lutjegast, by chance.
Like you guys, Kiwis love trailer hitched Caravans, and propane too
Have you had success with the American Impco CA 425 conversion?
Last edited by xctasy; 07-25-2017 at 08:35 AM.
About Respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk9WG8KWW0
X's Album http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2922
Oz JPS Stang http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...cecars/jps.htm
4V (A)US Race V8's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqk18A-ibjA
ITZOLD 81 Fox http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...-fun-and-games
6V i6's @ http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10 ; AWD i6's @ http://www.apetracing.co.nz/
113 mph 84 5.0 at Amaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTezv3Pzdls&t=8s
Techno KCM Loop Out: Severed Heads 1m³ Angels 1985 https://youtu.be/Wll6G1KpLqQ
Future Shock https://youtu.be/rDKGkWU0lWQ
xctasy, sorry for late reply. I was on vacation.
That's not my car, just a picture of an add to show the hitch I'd like to add on my 79 stang.
I'm from Ede, no famous people here
There are some parallels between Kiwis and us Cheeseheads apparently. Eventhough we are on the opposite side of the globe.
Impco 425 runs well. Put an Edelbrock RPM AirGap intake on, then the CA425 and the original Ford airfilter housing on top of that with a spacer inbetween.
It clears the hood barely but enough, after I replaced the wingnut with a hexagon capscrew.
Will shoot some pictures during day time.
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