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    Quote Originally Posted by xctasy View Post
    According to my Irish family side, G""d lookes after drunks, C~ and kids. But not if your a drunk C~ kid. Don't ask me how I know.

    Great work Brad. Bolt Extraction Expert. Awesome work brother.
    and Im half Irish....lol
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    Well this is about where we've been at for a good week.



    Trying to make sure I've got the cam right. After much discussion with some knowledgeable FEP-ers and Flowtech, we've settled on correcting my intake centerline gap (104 degrees dot to dot and 111 degrees 4 degrees retarded) with a new better quality timing set with more adjustability. I'll install that first chance I get, and then it shouldn't be any trouble getting us to that 107 degrees we're shooting for. I'm very happy we have a solution and can move on!

    Getting ready to yank the old engine out of the car so I can get at the oil pan, clean that up, and install it (and the new oiling system) on the new engine at the same time as I install the front cover. The new engine probably won't go in the car until I'm done working with the heads and the rest of the valvetrain. It's just easier to do it on the stand, and with the heads on, I can install the hooks these engines use for lifting. The school year ended this week, so I've got no more responsibilities working at the school, but at the same time, it's really hard to get delicate engine work done with the kids around.
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    AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddddd we're lost again. I received my new Rollmaster timing set, and it came with this.



    WTF is that for? Will the directions tell me? Nope. Not a word. Turns out it's a brass washer that goes between the cam sprocket and the thrust plate because they are both "hardened" so you need something sacrificial in there to prevent damage. But wait, there's more! It comes too thick just in case of variance in manufacturing, so it's up to you to measure and make it the right thickness! How? Are you sure there isn't anything in the directions? Nope. Good luck, f***er! Better do it right, or your warranty's void!

    Seems like so many "upgrade" parts are like this! "Here buy this shiny new part, it will make your car go faster!" But then, once you have it, only then do you find out, oh wait, there's all these other parts and processes you need to make it work.

    My instinct with this build has been to go stock replacement wherever possible. I didn't necessarily know what I was going to run into each time I "upgraded" something, but it seems pretty universal what happens. Let's take roller rockers for example. With pedestal mount, you need to do all this f***ing around with shims and measuring to make sure they fit right. But you don't want pedestal mount, you want STUD mount! There are SO many more options with those! Oh, but wait, you need to take your heads off and spend all this money having them modified to accept the studs. ARGH! It's never just the one part! "Precision" where there wasn't meant to be any!
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    Got some car time today, and instead of dealing with the stupid brass washer, I decided to yank the old engine.

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    about that brass (might be bronze) why cant you lay it flat onto sandpaper and sand it thinner to the thickness you need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVYCAT View Post
    about that brass (might be bronze) why cant you lay it flat onto sandpaper and sand it thinner to the thickness you need?
    Yeah, I guess that IS what you do if you need to make it thinner. 'Woulda been nice if there had been some mention of that somewhere!

    But the cam dragon has been slain! The washer actually didn't need to be modified at all, and when I went to degree the cam with the new timing set, we are within 1 degree of the target intake centerline! VERY happy with that!

    Also, cleaned up and painted the oil pan.

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    I think tomorrow I'll rent the harmonic balancer installer. I was getting the water pump ready to install today. I noticed that the old one had these kind of ground down bolts holding the metal plate onto the back of it. The new one had regular bolts.



    Since I broke one of the old one's bolts, I decided to grind down one of the new bolts to match. I could be crazy, but it seems like a good idea to me for the water pump to sit flush against the timing cover.



    Don't know what the water pump manufacturer was thinking there. "Our new water pumps don't seal!". Also, I have no idea what this thing is for.

    Brad

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    Another thread was circulating about the backing plate bolts being too thick, What brand was the pump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcb82gt View Post
    Another thread was circulating about the backing plate bolts being too thick, What brand was the pump?
    AC Delco. I chose it because it was one of the better brands they had on Rock Auto, plus it's aluminum instead of steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrEFI View Post
    I think tomorrow I'll rent the harmonic balancer installer. I was getting the water pump ready to install today. I noticed that the old one had these kind of ground down bolts holding the metal plate onto the back of it. The new one had regular bolts.



    Since I broke one of the old one's bolts, I decided to grind down one of the new bolts to match. I could be crazy, but it seems like a good idea to me for the water pump to sit flush against the timing cover.



    Don't know what the water pump manufacturer was thinking there. "Our new water pumps don't seal!". Also, I have no idea what this thing is for.

    That looks like it "would" go onto the nose, where the fan bolts onto
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    3rd. 1984 Capri RS V8 Black/grey
    2nd. 1984 Capri RS V8 White/red
    1st. 1984 SVO Grey/grey (traded it for a worn out 1970 BOSS 302)
    Both '84 Capri's vin# were 10 away from each other

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    [QUOTE=ZephyrEFI;1907755]AC Delco.[QUOTE]

    Oh NO you didn't....!!!!!! That ford will reject it. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcb82gt View Post
    Oh NO you didn't....!!!!!! That ford will reject it. LOL
    Yeah, I know... It was gonna be a secret until you had to go and bring it up!

    That might explain why they're trying to sabotage your cooling system though.

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    Oil pump, pickup and pan installed! Front cover and water pump are torqued down too.



    And i guess I rented the wrong balancer installer, so... that has to wait. And yes, I checked the oil pickup height.
    Brad

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    Installed the balancer and did some more teardown on the old engine. I'd left most everything on the lower intake (except the upper intake ) so I had to remove the heater pipe to get at one of the intake bolts. I went to clean up the rust where the hoses go on to it. I noticed some serious rust scale build-up at the back. I'd had a nagging problem with leakage there and I think that might be why. I think I remember rushing it the last time I installed this thing and not bothering to de-rust the pipes where they're close together and I couldn't get my die grinder in there. Let that be a lesson to the kids out there, I guess, haha. Problem hopefully solved! And that's good because new pipes are $100!

    Moving on, I got myself some assistance with the more exciting stuff.



    He was thrilled to be able to help me. Most of the time I'm doing something challenging or delicate, and I really just can't have him around, so this was a nice change. Got it down to a bare shortblock plus a few things I plan to throw in for the buyer.



    Heads are ready to bring to a machine shop to have the mating surface checked. I hate trying to find a machine shop. Seems like when you look in the yellow pages you get like 4-5 results nearby, but most of the time, it's just some suburban house or something when you look at it on Google Maps. Really? You got a whole machine shop in there? Don't think so. I absolutely hate talking on the phone, so I do as much research as I can before I commit my time to talking to these places. Unfortunately, with machine shops, that doesn't amount to much. They claim there's a machine shop at this address, here's the phone number, maybe the hours. That's it.
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