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    Default 1983 GT 5 speed clutch switch?

    I cannot find a clutch safety switch on this thing anywhere. I get no power at the start terminal on the solenoid when the key is turned and see no broken wires. I've looked up around the quadrant, the trans tunnel(interior and under car). I'm hopefully going to be able to test continuity from the plug at the column to the connector on the pork chop support, that is if it is dry which it appears to gonna be this evening.

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    You can not find it because it does not exist on an 83. If you have no breaks in the tunnel(there should be a looped wire in the harness) and there is no power to the red wire with a blue stripe at the solenoid then it sounds like a bad ignition switch.
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    It's got power at the terminal on the column when "cranking." You're saying I should be able to find a loop in the console area? That's way cool. Thanks! I'll check that tonight as well. I just found it hard to believe a late model like that didn't have a safety switch but the old parts guy at Ford said he couldn't find a listing and thought he remembered 84 being the first year for the switch.

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    Under the car is a plug that looks like a Duraspark module plug. It has 4 wires in it. 2 go to the backup lights and 2 go to the start circuit. The 2 that go to the start circuit are just a loop to complete the circuit. If your car had been an automatic this would be the neutral switch on the transmission selector. Lots of time this harness will get on the exhaust and burn.
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    Domino, your knowledge and willingness to share is just awesome!

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    This is what makes me look at the tech inspector at the drags, smile, and lie. "yep, the neutral safety works!" No provisions on an '83 for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianj View Post
    This is what makes me look at the tech inspector at the drags, smile, and lie. "yep, the neutral safety works!" No provisions on an '83 for one.
    My brother (Hissing Cobra) and I got hassled at NED for no neutral safety switches. We both finally got sick of it and finally installed them in our cars. They always check ours to see if they work.
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    I had the same guy when I went- I have only been a couple of times so far. I told him '83s had no switch, and he said, " yeah, I know. So yours works, RIGHT?" and smiled. I said "Yep!" and he let me go.
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    I finally had cooperative weather and blew off the 68 Camaro reassembly to mess with the 83.I jumpered the terminal at the transmission and the solenoid is now trying to turn it over or at least groan. I ran out of daylight so Saturday I'll finish checking for voltage drop. THANKS!!!!!

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    Same deal, at NED they always check mine, that's the reason I have not brought the Capri there was because I knew I would fail tech. The top part of the clutch pedal does not even have the boss or tip w/e for the nss stud to bolt to.

    If the wiring is there already I would really like to know where it is as I have collected a newer pedal box and switch etc from a newer car.

    I hope you can find the short in your wiring Mr cyclops.
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    Somehow the factory jumper wire under the car was cut short enough I could barely solder the new jumper wire on but I managed to do it. I'll reinstall the reverse light pigtail this weekend and try again to start it.

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    One time I reached in and turned car over. There was some guys standing in front of it. = woops sorry my bad. how embarassing, no one got hurt, just the poop scared out of all. Boy that 83 sure can jump!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 306gt View Post
    My brother (Hissing Cobra) and I got hassled at NED for no neutral safety switches. We both finally got sick of it and finally installed them in our cars. They always check ours to see if they work.
    Thats BS that they can fail you for not having something the car was never factory equipped with. I have raced at at least 13 different dragstrips up and down the West coast since the early 70`s, including NHRA divisional and National events & ET Finals, and I have never been told that I needed to add a clutch pedal switch on any of my stickshift cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcfairmont View Post
    Thats BS that they can fail you for not having something the car was never factory equipped with. I have raced at at least 13 different dragstrips up and down the West coast since the early 70`s, including NHRA divisional and National events & ET Finals, and I have never been told that I needed to add a clutch pedal switch on any of my stickshift cars.
    I know it is BS but and I agree with you. But I didn't like to get hassled about it. The tech inspectors up here are sometimes teenagers and really don't know how to tech in a car. After thinking about the safety aspect of it, I just decided to install it. It wasn't hard to do. I just installed the late fox body switch to the pedals and cut the ignition wire from the column going to the solenoid and scabbed the switch in between it. Now we don't get hassled anymore.
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    I had searched for quite a while under my dash for the neutral safety switch before I realized my '83 doesn't have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcfairmont View Post
    Thats BS that they can fail you for not having something the car was never factory equipped with. I have raced at at least 13 different dragstrips up and down the West coast since the early 70`s, including NHRA divisional and National events & ET Finals, and I have never been told that I needed to add a clutch pedal switch on any of my stickshift cars.
    I had to add a pedal with switch to my car last year.
    Had to do a couple other stupid things too.
    Like add an alluminum shield to my fuel sump because they consider it a fuel cell.
    Oh well it's their ball park, they make the rules.
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