Needing 10's

[408IIII]

Interesting read at baseline regarding rear suspension.
Good luck this weekend merk.
Thanks to everyone here on my quest for 10's

[warhorse58gt]

I will be doing a gear swap this winter. I have 4.10 sitting in the garage and my buddy who works for a Ford dealership will put them in for me. Still have some revs left in it when crossing the line.

Yes agree on the converter. Not sure it wiil happen anytime soon. As my thoughts would be to a transbrake at the same time.

I am running a single plane vic jr and I'm thinking going to a 850 carb.

93 octane

My timing could be still a little to high still at 34 degrees.

Hey my 79 with me in weights 2950.

What is your 60'?

na They are 1.48-1.50's. On the hit, they are in the 1.39's-to 1.40's

[Boosted_2.3]

Nice job! i am taking a turbo coupe out this week with a 363 dart with afr heads drag radials and a little boost just to work on the 60'. We are doing 20lbs of boost off the line and 10 down track. and only at 16 years old

[408IIII]

Nice job! i am taking a turbo coupe out this week with a 363 dart with afr heads drag radials and a little boost just to work on the 60'. We are doing 20lbs of boost off the line and 10 down track. and only at 16 years old

For my next project I would love to do a turbo 2.3 .

[Boosted_2.3]

got me and 84 svo for my birthday present from my dad. he gets mad tho cuz that car sees more attention than he does. oil change every two months tire pressure check every weekend full wash and detail every weekend.

[408IIII]

Very cool. My son and I are doing a project together. Perhaps your dad can lend a hand on wash day.

[408IIII]

Just some pics from my last time at the track

[408IIII]

Ok running 10's means adding some more safety items. If am not mistaken. Trans shield, after market axles, c-clip eliminators and engine damper. Not sure if I'm missing something or have miss interpreted the rule book. My 6 point rollbar is still good.
If anybody could add in it would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike

[turbostang500]

First, congrats on the 10.xx pass!

I dont remember offhand but was thinking you would need an 8 point roll bar.
Basically an extra strut from the main hoop down to where the upper control arms mount to the body.
Thought this rule was for unibody cars but could be wrong.

Other things to check, fire extinguisher, wheel stud length, seat belt inspections?
I dont really remember if you need to worry about any of that. Also, might have to wear a fire jacket now.

[408IIII]

Ok the car has been in storage for sometime now. Picked up a msd 2 step. Hoping this will help my 60 ft. Also plan on doing a carb upgrade for the new season. No other major upgrades are planned as I will have to watch my $$$ as I will be retiring in 2013.

[merk]

the two step will make it alot more consistant and help the 60 quite a bit

[408IIII]

I could never foot brake the car to 2000 rpm. Do you think with the 2 step I will be able to.

[mcfairmont]

Unless something has changed recently, the typical MSD 2 step doesn`t go below 3000 RPM. MSD does make a red low RPM chip, that comes with a small screwdriver, to adjust a screw for the lower RPM settings. I have 2 steps in both my cars, but have never tried anywhere near that low. (5600 RPM for the Mustang,6200 RPM for the Fairmont!

[n2omaverick]

I just sold my 66 coupe with a 408, I struggled with et just as you are but started with the car in the mid 11's and ended up in the 10.teens. This is what I learned through the process. A custom cam built for your intentions is worth every last penny it costs. I was way off from the off the shelf cam that I installed originally......WAY OFF!. Also learned that a 408 needs a super victor in a big way. Not a victor JR! Also needs a 950 carb. With the 750 holley HP that I started with I was trapping at almost 2" of vacuum. With the 950 it was under 1/2". The cam, super victor, and the carb put me well into the 10's and the last half second was all in the converter! Once again a custom unit using my weight, cam, hp, cubic inches, torque curve and launch rpm as key factors in building the converter. Going from 11.57 @ 119 to 10.18 @ 134 in 2 months without a gear/head/tire suspension change is hard to do. Ed Curtis at FTI is the best of the best with custom cams. Woody at Fordstrokers.com knows what parts match and made the recomendation for the super victor and even knew how much needed to be milled of the ends and sides to "match up perfectly" to my AFR 205's. I used trans specialties just outside of philly for the converter, but Coan and Neil Chance art the peoples favorite.

[408IIII]

I have the red pill which is adjustable 1000 to 3000.

Unless something has changed recently, the typical MSD 2 step doesn`t go below 3000 RPM. MSD does make a red low RPM chip, that comes with a small screwdriver, to adjust a screw for the lower RPM settings. I have 2 steps in both my cars, but have never tried anywhere near that low. (5600 RPM for the Mustang,6200 RPM for the Fairmont!

[408IIII]

Thanks. When I built the motor the plan was more street than track. Now it's no street and all track. Good point on the vacum for carb selection.

I just sold my 66 coupe with a 408, I struggled with et just as you are but started with the car in the mid 11's and ended up in the 10.teens. This is what I learned through the process. A custom cam built for your intentions is worth every last penny it costs. I was way off from the off the shelf cam that I installed originally......WAY OFF!. Also learned that a 408 needs a super victor in a big way. Not a victor JR! Also needs a 950 carb. With the 750 holley HP that I started with I was trapping at almost 2" of vacuum. With the 950 it was under 1/2". The cam, super victor, and the carb put me well into the 10's and the last half second was all in the converter! Once again a custom unit using my weight, cam, hp, cubic inches, torque curve and launch rpm as key factors in building the converter. Going from 11.57 @ 119 to 10.18 @ 134 in 2 months without a gear/head/tire suspension change is hard to do. Ed Curtis at FTI is the best of the best with custom cams. Woody at Fordstrokers.com knows what parts match and made the recomendation for the super victor and even knew how much needed to be milled of the ends and sides to "match up perfectly" to my AFR 205's. I used trans specialties just outside of philly for the converter, but Coan and Neil Chance art the peoples favorite.

[n2omaverick]

Thanks. When I built the motor the plan was more street than track. Now it's no street and all track. Good point on the vacum for carb selection.

Yes, if your pulling vacuum at wide open throttle at 6000 rpms your carb is to small.
Mine was a street car also, 10.8 to 1 compression, 93 octane pump gas, and with the custom cam it had street manners and decent vacuum at idle. I think you have a lot left in your combo. A custom cam and converter may put you deep into the 10's easily .20's - .30's and very close to 130 mph. Only being able to foot brake 2000 is an indication that your brakes are garbage or that converter is way too tight. My converter flashed at 4k and I could easily foot brake 3k! Your issue may be shocking the tires if you start launching that car at 4-5k. Your motor should be making 400+ tq at 4k and pulling 1.4 60 ft times.

[408IIII]

Yes my manual brakes are garbage! The converter will flash to 3500. My compression ratio is around 9.5 to 1. Street car turned race car ugh.

[408IIII]

As soon as the weather warms up I'll be installing the 2 step and doing 94-95 front disc upgrade. Keeping the manual brakes. With the 10 inch fronts I can't hold the car at the line. I am hoping I'll be able to launch a little closer to my 3500 converter flash rpm. What do you think?

[racerxmd]

If you can't hold her with 10" front disc, you need Hawk pads!

[408IIII]

Have you used them?

If you can't hold her with 10" front disc, you need Hawk pads!

[racerxmd]

Hawk Pads on my Aerospace brakes.What type of pads are you using?

[408IIII]

Just regular parts store ones. Perhaps I should invest some money in them. Did you notice a significant difference with these pads?

[Racemont]

Put a 5500 converter in it and you will be in the 10's that is all you need to do.

[86-199]

A cam change would be good..I run Bennett Racing costom grind..my old combo 347 9.5to1 Bennett cam 565/576 trick flow R
intake Box 90 mm throttle body put 440 to wheels 10.80@126....new combo 363 12to1 shooting for 9's n/a