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    Quote Originally Posted by turbostang500 View Post
    Good setup.

    The rubber bushings in the lca's might be flexing some.

    Have you ever tried a 2 step at maybe 2500 rpm?

    Oh, stock uca's?

    I would also see if you could borrow a 850 and give it a go.

    10.9x is in your future!!
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    Dropping weight is always an option and if all that stuff is still in there, i would say 100 lbs easy.

    I would definitely try a bigger carb. You might lose a little streetability but it should pick up top end.
    I would also consider foot braking it at least and see how it launches.

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    here my thoughts starting from square one
    To start ditch the 109 drop to 91 octane pull the timing back to 32 degrees or so put a set of new plugs in and make a pass if you can shut it off through top end and look at the ground strap you will be able to see a point where it changes color thats your timing line adding timing move the line closer to the threads less timing moves it to the end try to shoot for right at the bend to be where your color change is . Only reason you can get away with all that timing is the big octane .

    Launching best bet would be to get a two step have itr activated by your brake switch when armed through a toggle switch set it 500 rpm below where the converter is full stall it will make a consitant faster launch and allow a 500 rpmp flash most people pick up in the 60 even over people leaving on full stall .

    What does the fuel line look like on the plug . Same thing try a fresh plug make a pass . and pull it on the return road drive back on a old one . Take that plug and cut it at the base of the plug where the plug make its transition from skinny to fat is where you can read a the fuel line . you want a fine pencil like line on it for example this is a none projected n20 plug but its the same idea what you want it to look like
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    Last time at the track I ran 91 octane fuel. Only made 2 passes. Rain and oil down on the track.
    I have not backed the timing off yet. But will do (Aug 3).
    The car does not have a transbrake and the brakes won't hold the car at the line.
    Great info on reading the plugs.
    I do know my afr is rich crossing the line and will work on that.
    Really could use a test and tune day at the track.

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    The reason for the two step is so you can set the launch rpm at an rpm that the brakes can hold this will also preload the suspension and allow you to still get a good flash of the converter
    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
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    Quote Originally Posted by merk View Post
    The reason for the two step is so you can set the launch rpm at an rpm that the brakes can hold this will also preload the suspension and allow you to still get a good flash of the converter
    Thanks that makes sense to me
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    Heading to the track tomorrow.
    Backoff the timing
    93 octane fuel
    Leaning out the carb
    Switching to 27 in tall et streets. ( have always 60'd better with the 28 et drags)
    Some cooler air would be nice.

    Haven't really had much time to change much else. Getting the Edge ready for our drive down hot August nights

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    Good luck!
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    Just got back. Pretty close. I'm sure with cooler weather I should be there.
    Too hot for car and driver tonight. Very rookie move on my part. Turned the fuel pump off for one run tonight thought I was turning off the fan.
    Did run my best et,mph and 60' to date.
    2nd run of the night #4675 left lane.
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    If you find your self a two step I bet you will see close to half a tenth in that 60 disappear and then right there you in a 10.
    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
    61 ranchero ...SOON to be my mona lisa
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    Well almost.
    Still the 60' is not good. Will have to invest in the 2 step. New personal best.
    11.016 @ 122.03 . The track was extremely busy. The Volkswagon club was there last night. So thing were a little slow. Only got 3 passes in. First run I tried to footbrake it as much as I could but the brakes couldn't hold the car and I red lighted. Last race I spun at about the 330'. The track gets very dewy this time of year. Decided to pack it in and go home. Track guys were pretty bad. The wife took some pictures when I was in the waterbox and for the most part I wasn't even in the box. Have a test and tune Sept 7th so hopefully I see the 10's then.


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    your sooo close you can taste it ... With just what you lost in the 60' from that other slip would have put you in the 10`s next time you can also cheat the system a lil by staging very shallow ( just barely tickling the stage beam ) It will give you a run at it before you roll out of the stage beams. It how most car stage in qualifing when they need that lil extra and reaction time isnt a huge concern . A person can see a 0.01- 0.03 difference just in how you stage the car and deep in the beams you are etc
    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
    61 ranchero ...SOON to be my mona lisa
    62 falcon rb20det swap
    88 merkur xr4ti 2.3T T-5
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    Yeah I'm not to worried about RT as you can see by my timeslip

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    Heading to the track this Friday. It's a test and tune session. Hope to get some cool morning air. Will be working on my 60' time. Pretty sure now that's the key for heading into the 10's.
    This weekend the track is having a all Ford weekend (Mega Ford). Ford body cars and Ford powered cars only. Sure would like to race this event as there are very few 4 eyes racing. Unfortunatley I work on Sundays.

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    You guys/gals have any thoughts on the old school moroso cool cans. I use to run one on my 5.0l nitrous feed 83 Ranger truck. Not sure if the make much difference. Still have it in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 408IIII View Post
    You guys/gals have any thoughts on the old school moroso cool cans. I use to run one on my 5.0l nitrous feed 83 Ranger truck. Not sure if the make much difference. Still have it in the garage.

    Most nhra classes have cool cans being illegal other than a few s/s classes the mega ford weekend is a blast I was out there last year with out red and black 93 mustang
    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
    61 ranchero ...SOON to be my mona lisa
    62 falcon rb20det swap
    88 merkur xr4ti 2.3T T-5
    86 merkur xr4ti 2.3t t-9

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    Well finally in the 10's. Thanks merk for the tip on shallow staging. Pretty sure it had something to do with my 10 second timeslip. My reaction time took a beating but the et is all worth it. 60' still has some room for improvement but I think I would need a transbrake but then I would have to upgrade my stock 28 spline axles. Bigger cam and carb will have to wait until next year.

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    Congratulations! I also find it kind of humorous that your eighth mile MPH is almost the same as my quarter mile MPH.
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    CONGRATS on making it to the 10`s Im heading to the track friday night to shoot for some high 9`s on my 17`s lol may the traction gods be with me lol , Looks like all the gain was in the 60 foot so it might have all been the shallow stage since mph never changed good job .
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    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
    61 ranchero ...SOON to be my mona lisa
    62 falcon rb20det swap
    88 merkur xr4ti 2.3T T-5
    86 merkur xr4ti 2.3t t-9

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    You could do a couple of things.
    1. 26" tall tire instead of gear change/ or gear change.
    2. More verter.
    3. Single plain intake. I would do a super vic.
    4. Drop to 91/93 octane.
    5. Play with the timing. mine likes 32*

    My car is a 83gt, 2950 with me in it. 354ci, 8.5 to 1, Canfield heads, super vic intake (both ported by Wes King), custom blower cam, 4:10's on a 28" tire, c4 (trans brake) 4k stall. It has ran as fast as 10.51 @ 125 on motor. Runs High .5x's to low .6x's All day, every day at Sacramento race way.

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    Congrats on cracking the 10's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by merk View Post
    CONGRATS on making it to the 10`s Im heading to the track friday night to shoot for some high 9`s on my 17`s lol may the traction gods be with me lol , Looks like all the gain was in the 60 foot so it might have all been the shallow stage since mph never changed good job .
    R/T was pretty bad sure it had to do with shallow staging. Yeah no mph gain would also lead me to believe that staging played a key part in going 10's. Last Friday was my last trip out to the track. Have another project in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warhorse58gt View Post
    You could do a couple of things.
    1. 26" tall tire instead of gear change/ or gear change.
    2. More verter.
    3. Single plain intake. I would do a super vic.
    4. Drop to 91/93 octane.
    5. Play with the timing. mine likes 32*

    My car is a 83gt, 2950 with me in it. 354ci, 8.5 to 1, Canfield heads, super vic intake (both ported by Wes King), custom blower cam, 4:10's on a 28" tire, c4 (trans brake) 4k stall. It has ran as fast as 10.51 @ 125 on motor. Runs High .5x's to low .6x's All day, every day at Sacramento race way.
    I will be doing a gear swap this winter. I have 4.10 sitting in the garage and my buddy who works for a Ford dealership will put them in for me. Still have some revs left in it when crossing the line.

    Yes agree on the converter. Not sure it wiil happen anytime soon. As my thoughts would be to a transbrake at the same time.

    I am running a single plane vic jr and I'm thinking going to a 850 carb.

    93 octane

    My timing could be still a little to high still at 34 degrees.

    Hey my 79 with me in weights 2950.

    What is your 60'?

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    Hey just watched a video of my car lanuching and it looks like the right rear is squatting a little more than the left side. Any thoughts on this. Would an air bag in the spring fix this or is it a bandaid for something I should look at.

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    There are a few options best option being putting a sway bar like maximum motorsport which mounts the bar to the differential somewhat like the factory set up but allows adjustment and preload while still allowing the use of factory OR aftermarket tailpipes
    other is a set of moroso trick springs but they make the ride on the street the ****s and make the car sit up high in the ass end but they do help .
    With the trick springs my 3450lb with out me in it went 1.47 60`s on a 275/40/r17 m/t drag radial
    Switched back to the v8 rear springs and put mm rear sway bar in this winter and seems a pile better Im hoping to put a 1.3x on the 17`s up this weekend
    83 capri , 9`S on 17" 2003 cobra and DOT m/t radials and 91octane 408w "Blacky "
    86 capri "Red" 13`s @ 108mph with street tires and 2.73 gears ...SOLD 2013... sad day
    93 mustang stretch wheel base 600cid with a lil juice. 7.48@190 mph
    61 ranchero ...SOON to be my mona lisa
    62 falcon rb20det swap
    88 merkur xr4ti 2.3T T-5
    86 merkur xr4ti 2.3t t-9

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