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    I got the clutch in for my truck and have it swapped out. Want to get some fresh synchromesh tomorrow for it before I can test drive it.

    On a freshly rebuilt a traction lock, even the stock spring is a bear to get back in. If things are pretty worn, it goes in pretty easily.

    I'll be heading up to Atmore with two other people and their cars. Hope I don't break anything on the truck or GT. It's been a long time since I drove it in anger. I'll see if the new cam has slowed it down a bit and maybe the battle boxes and k-member will help with the 60' times.
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    Let me know how it works for you. I'd park down towards the finish line, it gets real crowded up by the snack shack/starting line. Not uncommon to come back to your spot and find someone's car there.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Did well. Managed a personal best of 7.39 @ 95.5mph. 1.58 sec 60' time and pulled the front wheel off the ground on the launch. Car pretty squirrely but it is stock rear suspension. Really needs an update in that regard but it will need to wait until I get the motor done for the Mach 1.

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    Black 1985 GT: 408w, in the 6's in the 1/8 mile
    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    that's pretty decent for a full weight car Mike.

    I've decided to swap the auburn/4.10 rear currently in my 90 LX into the LTD and that rear in the LTD will go into my 88GT, after a refresh of the trac lock. I'm hoping to take this to the track one more time before pulling the 302 to see how it runs. With the shorter runners in the upper it showed promise the last time I had it at the track, but that's the same night the trac loc gave up the ghost, hopefully the lower control arms are good.
    The reciprocating assy. for the new engine is at the machine shop getting balancing done....
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I would have thought you would have had more gear in it already, but it's fun changing things over time and see what works best.

    I managed to get my bronze lifter bushings installed into the Cleveland and honed the cylinders. The new cam and lifters should be here on Tuesday and I'll trial fit the lifters before the big clean before reassembly.



    Black 1985 GT: 408w, in the 6's in the 1/8 mile
    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap's 85 GT View Post
    I would have thought you would have had more gear in it already, but it's fun changing things over time and see what works best.
    I had this rear with the 3.73 when I put it together, so I used it, should pick up a tick with the 4.10's, plus the things I've found in the tune, and some other stuff, should get into the 7.8X I think, maybe better, we'll see.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I got the rearend out today, and as suspected, (feared) the lower control arm forward bushing on the passenger side was trashed. To make things even better the bushing in the axle housing was split as well, and there is a long crack in the top of the muffler....the hits keep coming....LOL!!
    This isn't meant to bag on maximum motorsports stuff, I'm very pleased with their products and am going to be using their lower control arms again, I'll just step up to the extreme this go around.





    The "new" rear end and 4.10's, and I've got poly bushings to go into the upper axle mount along with UMI double adjustable upper control arms already, just need to get new lower control arms. Haven't decided whether or not to send in these in for credit when buying new ones, or have them rebuilt and use on something else.

    One thing I noticed where the front control arm lower bushing rides in the control arm pocket the sidewalls are not making contact with the entire surface of the control arm due to a bevel of sorts at the back of the pocket. I'll get a pic to help 'splain it better, it's not conducive to bushing longevity with the full size bushing like these have.
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    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    My MM LCA bushings were a three piece deal. One rear was a spherical bearing and the forward end was a stiff inner and a more traditional black poly outer. I purchased them way back in 2001. I've never seen red bushings in MM stuff. Did you buy them new or used?
    Black 1985 GT: 408w, in the 6's in the 1/8 mile
    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    New, it's been awhile ago, I don't even remember when, I think when I got back from Korea in 2006. These are the heavy duty though, I think you're describing the extremes, which are what I need to get for this.
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    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    When I got mine, there were no extremes. Only the ones I got, the weight jacker style, and the ones without a spring perch for rear coil-overs. The extremes have the spherical bearing on both ends. I do not know if those extreme bearings are any more heavy duty than the regular ones.
    Black 1985 GT: 408w, in the 6's in the 1/8 mile
    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    Yeah I don't think the extreme type have been out very long. In emailing with Jack Hidley, he recommended the extremes. Either he said, or it's on their website somewhere that if you pull a 1.7 60 ft. or below to go with the extreme type.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    So where was it that they will do an "exchange"? Or is it not worth it?
    Black 1985 GT: 408w, in the 6's in the 1/8 mile
    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    Here is a clip of the email I got from Brian Gust at Maximum, I thought it was Jack, but I'd been emailing him about something else.

    Your MMRLCA-1 are available for our rebuild service.
    Depending on what exactly needs to be replaced, here would be the basic breakdown of costs associated with rebuilding the arms: Prices are for both arms (Labor Included):
    New Spherical Bearings: $100.00 New Urethane Bushings: $19.00 New Powder coating and stickers:
    $35.00 The typical turnaround is about a week. If you want your arms powder coated, that may add an extra few days, as all powder coating is done off premise.

    This was his first reply when I asked if they could be rebuilt.
    Hi David-
    If you are running those 60" times, you are definitely going to want to be running the Extreme-Duty arms. We recommend using the Heavy-Duty arms for cars with up to 400 hp. If you have under that horsepower and are launching on slicks or drag radials, the urethane won't last long, even with having less than 400 hp.
    At this time the HD arms can't be upgraded to the XD arms, as they are slightly different where the spherical bearing would press into. My insider suggestion. Wait for the RLCA’s to come up on Deal of The Day and score a new set of XD RLCA’s. http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Sp...sday-C598.aspx or You can trade your old arms for a store credit towards an XD set of RLCAs. Assuming these arms are over three years old, the value of them would be 50% of what you original purchase price was. Sincerely,Brian GustMaximum Motorsports
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I finally got the new control arms in, along with the different rear with 4.10's, and UMI double adjustable uppers. Ran into a few issues, but nothing insurmountable. I ordered the extreme duty control arms for 1999 mustang, as they have a 14MM mounting bolt. Only issue in doing so was getting a 14MM drill, had to order that. I put extra long bolts in the mount bolts as the short factory length bolts let the thread ride against the control arm bolt hole which tends to wallow the hole some. I figured the shank would provide more surface contact and less likely to wear the hole.
    Maximum says in the instructions these control arms need 150-200 miles to break in, and they aren't kidding, these things are stiff in the mounts. As soon as I got it going I put a set of cast iron GT40's in the trunk and went to fill it up at the gas station to help break them in faster. THere's no weight transfer at first. it would boil the tires at anything past half throttle, and if I got on the brakes too hard it would lock the fronts. After getting 100 miles on it, it's better now and has a bit to go. Rear is pretty stable now, I might need to go down a size on the rear sway bar, I'll decided that after riding it around some more. The weekend after next I'll hope to get it to the track and see how much quicker it'll run with the new gears.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Hey anything new? ..
    Did you end up going to the track? ..
    I'm holdin on your rope, got me 10 feet off the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Hey anything new? ..
    Did you end up going to the track? ..
    Not yet, weather hasn't been very cooperative with my schedule. Hopefully sometime in early March.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I forgot to update this, I did make it up to the track a few weeks ago. Car ran good, but I forgot to reset something I had changed in the tune, so it didn't accelerate good off the line, or overall for that matter. I tried something different awhile back and forgot to reload the part that adds fuel under WOT. The 60ft's were off by almost 2/10 and that led to slower ETs and MPH. Best 60ft. was 1.82, all were in 1.8 range, best ET was 8.18 with the best MPH was with that run too which was 84.8. Previous best 60ft. was 1.71 with 3.73 gears, should have run better with 4.10's but it didn't dawn on me until on the way home that night what I had messed up on the tune. I don't know when I'll get up that way again. I've got the block and 347 reciprocating assy. back from the machine shop, I just have to put it partially together and send block back for decking.
    Daughter is starting college in fall, don't know when I'll get that 347 done....LOL!
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Weather was decent yesterday, and they were having a race on a Saturday instead of Sunday so loaded up and made the 2 hour drive to Atmore. Ran it with the Hoosier 255/50-16s a few times, had a mostly 8.0's at 85MPH, with 1.8X 60 fts. Swapped on the old trusty BFG 275/50-15s and busted off a 7.87@86.5 with a 1.71 60ft. That will might be the last time I take this up there before the engine swap, we'll see, would like to mess with this some more, but may not get the chance.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I had this on the dyno this morning, made 331/330 in drive with the converter locked up. 347 is closer to being ready for install, but will be pulling this motor out pretty quick.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Where did you take it?
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    Bimini Blue 1988 LX 5.0 Coupe 5-speed, Hellion turbo, zero options
    Grabber Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1: 351c, toploader
    Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
    Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap's 85 GT View Post
    Where did you take it?
    Adams Automotive in Crestview, bring yours up on the 13th of February for the dyno day.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    Good looking car David and thanks for sharing all of the different wheel and tire combos you tried. You helped me on my wheel choice on my LTD w/ the Dodge 17's. I went one step further though and made my rear ones 9" wide vs the 7" that they are stock. Here's a pic.:
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    1986 Ford LTD street car w/ turbo. Best et/mph so far 10.5 @ 140 on 17" hard tires. Driven to and from track.

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    Nice, I've still got a set of those I'm using to roll my 88GT around on.
    Quote Originally Posted by 408GT View Post
    Good looking car David and thanks for sharing all of the different wheel and tire combos you tried. You helped me on my wheel choice on my LTD w/ the Dodge 17's. I went one step further though and made my rear ones 9" wide vs the 7" that they are stock. Here's a pic.:
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    I've not done an update to this in awhile. Thought I was close to getting the engine together only to find the crank that was sent to me was for a 302, not a 347, so had to get a new crank, and then have it balanced for the rest of the reciprocating assy. Hopefully I can pick that up tomorrow. I was forced to pull the engine a little sooner than I wanted when the torque converter gave up the ghost again. I'll be sending it to lenny at UCC to have it redone properly, so might just use the stocker until I can make that happen.

    The TFS-R intake is welded back together and ready, here's some info on that if you're interested in reading about these and how they look on the inside.
    http://www.hardcore50racing.com/vbul...ad.php?t=61042

    I soaked, cleaned and functional checked the injectors, so they're ready to go in when I get to that point.
    1985 LTD LX, Mach1 brakes, 17" Mopar police car wheels. 302, T5, 4.10s
    1984 LTD station wagon, with 84GT nose, some might remember it as the old Dugan Racing station wagon.
    1986 FHP coupe, stock shortblock, TW heads, Holley SMII intake, 4.88, T5Z
    1990 Red LX, ported AFR heads, TFS-R box upper, weenie cam, 1 3/4 long accufabs, 3" exhaust, T5, 4.56

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    bump, bump
    I know it's an old thread but the admin is askin me to get the post count up (my PMs to buddies and the "fox-bodied LTD/Marquis wagon Wanted" don't count)
    What's goin on w/the car?

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