I'm gathering parts to do the cfi to carb swap, and now I'm wondering what's going to happen with the throttle cable. Will I be able to use the cfi cable as is or have to modify it, or just go with one from a carb car....
I'm gathering parts to do the cfi to carb swap, and now I'm wondering what's going to happen with the throttle cable. Will I be able to use the cfi cable as is or have to modify it, or just go with one from a carb car....
I'll have to compare them side by side, but I don't believe there is any difference between the
throttle cables on my two '85 GTs.
Cheers,
Jeff Cook
'85 GT Hatch, 5-speed T-Top, Eibachs, Konis, & ARE 5-Spokes ... '85 GT Vert, CFI/AOD, all factory...
'79 Fairmont StaWag, 5.0, 62K original miles ... '04 Azure Blue 40th Anny Mach 1, 37K original miles...
2012 F150 S-Crew 4x4 5.0 "Blue Coyote"... 65 coupe, 289 auto, Pony interior ... '67 coupe 6-cyl 4-speed ...
'68 Vert, Mexican block 307 4-speed... '71 Datsun 510 ...
And a 1-of-328 Deep Blue Pearl 2003 Marauder 4.6 DOHC, J-Mod, 4.10s and Lidio tune
I went from a cfi 3.8 to a 5.0 with a weiand intake. I had it cobbled together for a while, but if my memory serves me right (and i will check when i get home) but my intake didn't have the same mounting for the 84's cable, and i ended up going to a junkyard and scrounged around for a bracket that would work.
I used to have superhuman powers, but my therapist took them all away.
84 mercury capri gs, 3.8 to 5.0 swap, weiand intake, edelbrock 600, longtube headers, c4 then an aod then another c4, 3.73 geared 8.8 with worn clutches, gt sway bars, boxed control arms.
spare engine and doug nash 4+1 waiting to go in. A4 based supercharged 306 in the near future...
They are different!! About a foot ....but if you need one I might know where to get one
I changed my car from a cfi 3.8 to a 5.0 also and the throttle cable was fine its the bracket thats the issue. I ended up using a universal gm one for now until I can locate something better
84 Mustang notchback 302?
My cars:
1984 Mustang Lx notch
1998 Subaru Forester L (my dd)
2005 Chevy Equinox (wifes dd)
1986 Ford F150
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2007 Yamaha Wolverine 450 SE
1979 Suzuki GS750
Cheers,
Jeff Cook
'85 GT Hatch, 5-speed T-Top, Eibachs, Konis, & ARE 5-Spokes ... '85 GT Vert, CFI/AOD, all factory...
'79 Fairmont StaWag, 5.0, 62K original miles ... '04 Azure Blue 40th Anny Mach 1, 37K original miles...
2012 F150 S-Crew 4x4 5.0 "Blue Coyote"... 65 coupe, 289 auto, Pony interior ... '67 coupe 6-cyl 4-speed ...
'68 Vert, Mexican block 307 4-speed... '71 Datsun 510 ...
And a 1-of-328 Deep Blue Pearl 2003 Marauder 4.6 DOHC, J-Mod, 4.10s and Lidio tune
Not too sure if there is a difference between the cfi and sefi cars seeing as if the throttle body was in the same location but I can attest that you are right about it not being a foot longer. It was exactly 18"......I will see if I can get some picks uploaded to show the differences between my cables. Either way.....I am willing to part with my carb cable.
On my 85 GT, which was a CFI car til I swapped to carb, the original cable and bracket work with no problems whatsoever. I can even get a pic this weekend if there is anybody doubting me!
Justin
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 CFI/AOD (originally)
Now: 306, AFR 185s, Edelbrock Victor Jr. 302 Intake, Pro-Systems 4150HP, FTI/Ed Curtis custom cam, 170amp large case 3G Alternator, PA AOD with Silverfox SPT-MAC valve body, 3500rpm Stall, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, MM C/C plates, Tokico HP's, MM full length SFC's, SN95 Cobra brakes front and rear, 31 spline Fox length 8.8" with 4.10's, MM rear lowers and FRPP uppers, a few other MM suspension goodies, Jet Hot ceramic coated FRPP shorties, Pypes X-pipe, SpinTech Pro Streets and some other go fast parts.
1984 Mustang LX 5.0 4bbl/T5 (Sold)
LS swaps are the hair implants of the car world. Sure the owner is proud, but everyone else is laughing.
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 CFI/AOD (originally)
Now: 306, AFR 185s, Edelbrock Victor Jr. 302 Intake, Pro-Systems 4150HP, FTI/Ed Curtis custom cam, 170amp large case 3G Alternator, PA AOD with Silverfox SPT-MAC valve body, 3500rpm Stall, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, MM C/C plates, Tokico HP's, MM full length SFC's, SN95 Cobra brakes front and rear, 31 spline Fox length 8.8" with 4.10's, MM rear lowers and FRPP uppers, a few other MM suspension goodies, Jet Hot ceramic coated FRPP shorties, Pypes X-pipe, SpinTech Pro Streets and some other go fast parts.
1984 Mustang LX 5.0 4bbl/T5 (Sold)
LS swaps are the hair implants of the car world. Sure the owner is proud, but everyone else is laughing.
yeah take a shot if you would. How did you go about hooking up the AOD, with a lokar cable?
With a carburetor, the Lokar cable is your only choice. Ford never used the AOD with a
4-barrel carburetor, so there are no factory bits you can scrounge to do the job. Even
though the TV linkage on the CFI throttle body looks similar to a C4 kickdown lever, it's
different enough that the C4 kickdown cannot be easily modified to do the job.
Unlke a C4, the AOD cannot be run without a functioning TV linkage or cable.
Cheers,
Jeff Cook
'85 GT Hatch, 5-speed T-Top, Eibachs, Konis, & ARE 5-Spokes ... '85 GT Vert, CFI/AOD, all factory...
'79 Fairmont StaWag, 5.0, 62K original miles ... '04 Azure Blue 40th Anny Mach 1, 37K original miles...
2012 F150 S-Crew 4x4 5.0 "Blue Coyote"... 65 coupe, 289 auto, Pony interior ... '67 coupe 6-cyl 4-speed ...
'68 Vert, Mexican block 307 4-speed... '71 Datsun 510 ...
And a 1-of-328 Deep Blue Pearl 2003 Marauder 4.6 DOHC, J-Mod, 4.10s and Lidio tune
I want to make sure I get the trans hooked up right, I can't afford messing it up. Well maybe, if that can lead to a t5 swap hmm.....
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 CFI/AOD (originally)
Now: 306, AFR 185s, Edelbrock Victor Jr. 302 Intake, Pro-Systems 4150HP, FTI/Ed Curtis custom cam, 170amp large case 3G Alternator, PA AOD with Silverfox SPT-MAC valve body, 3500rpm Stall, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, MM C/C plates, Tokico HP's, MM full length SFC's, SN95 Cobra brakes front and rear, 31 spline Fox length 8.8" with 4.10's, MM rear lowers and FRPP uppers, a few other MM suspension goodies, Jet Hot ceramic coated FRPP shorties, Pypes X-pipe, SpinTech Pro Streets and some other go fast parts.
1984 Mustang LX 5.0 4bbl/T5 (Sold)
LS swaps are the hair implants of the car world. Sure the owner is proud, but everyone else is laughing.
Ok, won't be able to get a pic til tomorrow night..... The blizzard thats hitting us just started about an hour ago. Sorry bout that! But seriously, the stock 5.0 CFI cable and bracket WILL work with a 4 bbl. No mods needed to either!
Justin
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 CFI/AOD (originally)
Now: 306, AFR 185s, Edelbrock Victor Jr. 302 Intake, Pro-Systems 4150HP, FTI/Ed Curtis custom cam, 170amp large case 3G Alternator, PA AOD with Silverfox SPT-MAC valve body, 3500rpm Stall, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, MM C/C plates, Tokico HP's, MM full length SFC's, SN95 Cobra brakes front and rear, 31 spline Fox length 8.8" with 4.10's, MM rear lowers and FRPP uppers, a few other MM suspension goodies, Jet Hot ceramic coated FRPP shorties, Pypes X-pipe, SpinTech Pro Streets and some other go fast parts.
1984 Mustang LX 5.0 4bbl/T5 (Sold)
LS swaps are the hair implants of the car world. Sure the owner is proud, but everyone else is laughing.
JACOOK... I think you might be right about the cables. I was getting tunnel vision between the sd and maf setups. If I recall the CFI was a throttle body look arrangement. I removed the carb cable this weekend and have some pics if you are intrested in 85.0...
thanks Justin.
ngl9766 post some shots here or email them to ivanocejo@hotmail.com
When I get off tonight ill post them up!
No worries. I figured that was the case, but didn't feel like it was worth arguing about.
Comparing the cables on both my '85s, they both measure right at 9.25" from the firewall
flange to the bracket on the intake manifold. I'll also add that these are both the same
length as the throttle cable in my '79 StaWag.
Cheers,
Jeff Cook
'85 GT Hatch, 5-speed T-Top, Eibachs, Konis, & ARE 5-Spokes ... '85 GT Vert, CFI/AOD, all factory...
'79 Fairmont StaWag, 5.0, 62K original miles ... '04 Azure Blue 40th Anny Mach 1, 37K original miles...
2012 F150 S-Crew 4x4 5.0 "Blue Coyote"... 65 coupe, 289 auto, Pony interior ... '67 coupe 6-cyl 4-speed ...
'68 Vert, Mexican block 307 4-speed... '71 Datsun 510 ...
And a 1-of-328 Deep Blue Pearl 2003 Marauder 4.6 DOHC, J-Mod, 4.10s and Lidio tune
cool one expense less on the swap.
CFI TO CARBURETOR: STOCK THROTTLE CABLE WILL WORK
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 CFI/AOD (originally)
Now: 306, AFR 185s, Edelbrock Victor Jr. 302 Intake, Pro-Systems 4150HP, FTI/Ed Curtis custom cam, 170amp large case 3G Alternator, PA AOD with Silverfox SPT-MAC valve body, 3500rpm Stall, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, MM C/C plates, Tokico HP's, MM full length SFC's, SN95 Cobra brakes front and rear, 31 spline Fox length 8.8" with 4.10's, MM rear lowers and FRPP uppers, a few other MM suspension goodies, Jet Hot ceramic coated FRPP shorties, Pypes X-pipe, SpinTech Pro Streets and some other go fast parts.
1984 Mustang LX 5.0 4bbl/T5 (Sold)
LS swaps are the hair implants of the car world. Sure the owner is proud, but everyone else is laughing.
And, it may or may not matter, but my '82 GT's accelerator cable had yellow-colored paint on the the ball-socket arm, as did the NOS one I got to replace it. But all of the Holley 4V cars I've seen have purple paint on the arm. I happen to have both types of cables on hand, and the purple one appears to be an eighth of an inch longer, between the manifold bracket and the ball socket.
Dunno which one CFI uses.
'88 Mustang GT convertible, T5, 3.08:1 gears. 5.0 Explobra Jet: A9L Mass Air conversion, Fenderwell Mac cold air intake, 70mm MAF meter = 4.6 T-Bird/Cougar housing + '95 Mustang F2VF-12B579-A1A sensor, aftermarket 70mm throttle body and spacer, Explorer intakes, GT40P heads with Alex's Parts springs and drilled for thermactor, Crane F3ZE-6529-AB 1.7 "Cobra" roller rockers, Ford Racing P50 headers, Mac H-pipe, Magnaflow catback, Walbro 190 LPH fuel pump, UPR firewall adjuster and quadrant with Ford OEM cable, 3G conversion ('95 Mustang V6), Taurus fan, rolled on Rustoleum gloss white paint...
Past Four Eyes: Red well optioned '82 GT 5.0, Black T-top '81 Capri Black Magic 3.3L 4 speed, Black T-top '84 Capri RS 5.0 5 speed.Over 200,000 miles driven in Four Eyes, and over 350,000 in Fox Body cars.
anyone have a shot of the lokar hooked up?
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