LTD/Marquis assembly plant(s)?

[FoxChassis]

Chicago Assembly (VIN code "G") ... was that the only plant where the LTD and Marquis (more specifically the LX and LTS, respectively) were produced, or were there others?

[gr79]

My guess most if not all of the LX/LTS are G's than A's.
because Ford did not want to supply unique parts to 2 plants.
Hard to say for sure without seeing all 3200+ VINs..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories

[FoxChassis]

I have that link bookmarked, and use it often. Don't know why I did not think this time of drilling down to each plant's wiki to see their product lines. Thanks for the reminder.

I now see the wiki for Atlanta Assembly says LTD/Marquis, and the wikis for LTD and Marquis say Atlanta. I do have to question the accuracy and completeness of some of those wikis, though, as I did just find one T'bird VIN on ebay with an Atlanta VIN, and the Atlanta wiki doesn't show Thunderbird. I also just had to update the (Fox) Capri and Mustang wikis to include San Jose Assembly, and the main 'Factories' wiki to include Capri in San Jose's recent products.

I'm in the proccess of compiling a complete list of (Fox) LTD/Marquis VINs from Chicago Assembly. Will do the same for Atlanta Assembly, and see if the 5.0L engine was at both or just Chicago. Will be doing the same for the Thunderbird/Cougar at their respective assembly plants, and the 2.3T engine.

Thanks for your help.

[gr79]

No way one source of info will ever come near to cover it all. Too complex.
Take Wixom Assy. I live about 2 miles from it.
The only fox chassis i remember out of there was Continental and Mark VII.
Wiki lists Tbird 58-07 like it was there all that time. Oh well.
Wiki is better than nothing.

[FoxChassis]

Wiki is probably where I got Wixom from for T'bird/Cougar. Because I haven't found a Wixom VIN yet, only Atlanta and Lorain.

[FoxChassis]

Raw list of VINs is showing 9,000! '85 P39Ms (Fox LTD 5.0L) produced at Chicago Assembly.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Wow thats interesting

[FoxChassis]

Still working on the numbers but the raw data shows roughly 3,700 more P39s made at the Chicago plant with the 5.0L engine than with the 2.3L engine. I'm working on the Chicago P40 (wagon) numbers now.

[FoxChassis]

1983 LTD/Marquis Production Numbers

LTD - Atlanta Assembly
P39A = 1,498
P39X = 7,269
P393 = 10,748
P40X = 1,707
P403 = 2,214
Total = 23,436

LTD - Chicago Assembly
P39A = 9,373
P396 = 349
P39X = 31,281
P393 = 54,388
P40X = 15,766
P403 = 25,009
Total = 136,166

Marquis - Atlanta Assembly
P89A = 447
P89X = 2,677
P893 = 5,799
P90X = 508
P903 = 1,354
Total = 10,785

Marquis - Chicago Assembly
P89A = 2,640
P896 = 43
P89X = 10,426
P893 = 29,122
P90X = 3,412
P903 = 12,095
Total = 57,738

1984 LTD/Marquis Production Numbers

LTD - Atlanta Assembly
(coming soon)

LTD - Chicago Assembly
P39A = 7,588
P396 = 494
P393 = 75,907
P39C = 14,331
P39M = 6,528
P403 = 46,060
P40C = 13,276
Total = 164,184

Marquis - Atlanta Assembly
P893 = 20,985
P89C = 9,573
Total = 30,558

Marquis - Chicago Assembly
P89A = 2,274
P893 = 49,030
P89C = 9,734
P903 = 13,688
P90C = 2,295
Total = 77,021

1985 LTD/Marquis Production Numbers

LTD - Atlanta Assembly
P39A = 33
P393 = 65,662
Total = 65,695

LTD - Chicago Assembly
P39A = 5,308
P393 = 86,143
P403 = 43,189
P39M = 8,998
total = 143,638

Marquis - Atlanta Assembly
P89A = 2
P893 = 43,406
Total = 43,408

Marquis - Chicago Assembly
P89A = 2,198
P893 = 47,909
P903 = 12,934
P89M = 135
total = 63,176

1986 LTD/Marquis Production Numbers

LTD - Atlanta Assembly
(none at Atlanta Assembly for 1986)

LTD - Chicago Assembly
P39A = 570
P393 = 58,417
P403 = 14,389
Total = 73,376

Marquis - Atlanta Assembly
(none at Atlanta Assembly for 1986)

Marquis - Chicago Assembly
P89A = 347
P893 = 24,322
P903 = 4,510
Total = 29,179

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Body Codes
P39 = LTD sedan
P40 = LTD wagon
P89 = Marquis sedan
P90 = Marquis wagon

Engine Codes
A = 2.3L (gas)
6 = 2.3L (LPG)
X = 3.3L I6
3 = 3.8L V6 (EFI)
C = 3.8L V6 (carb)
M = 5.0L

[TWR2003]

'85 LTD Chicago Assembly production
P39 2.3L = 5,308
P39 3.8L = 86,143
P40 3.8L = 43,189
P39 5.0L = 8,998
total = 143,638

P39 = sedan
P40 = wagon

Where does that data come from?

You could actually buy an 85 LTD with a four cylinder engine?

[FoxChassis]

Marquis 5.0L (LTS) made only in '85?

[Mr. Squirrel]

wow, those are some very low number lts. How many were made in Canada? Did they ever make any 302 wagons in 84-86? Thank you for sharing

[FoxChassis]

They weren't made in Canada, they were just sold there. Supposedly the LTS wasn't available in the US so all 135 of the Chicago-built '85s would have been sold in Canada, with a Canada DSO.

I believe the wagon only came with a V6 in all years but I haven't confirmed that yet.

[Mr. Squirrel]

True that but I have found one for sale in Ohio a few years back. A lts that is

[FoxChassis]

I would had to have to seen the DSO to believe it was originally ordered/sold in the states.

[Mr. Squirrel]

The story goes that it used to belong to a tobacco farmer. He,bought it brand new in Ohio if Im right to use to promote his tobacco product. I will see if I can find the number to the owner or maybe you know of the owner

[FoxChassis]

Did not know this until I started going through the '84 VINs ... some 2.3L engines in Chicago-built LTD sedans were fueled with LPG (engine code "6"). Very interesting.

[FoxChassis]

What is engine code "C"?

[LTDScott]

I got a VIN verification thing on my old LX (which Marz now owns) and I seem to recall it was built in Lorain, OH.

[TWR2003]

Where do you get your production numbers from?

[Greywolf]

Did not know this until I started going through the '84 VINs ... some 2.3L engines in Chicago-built LTD sedans were fueled with LPG (engine code "6"). Very interesting.

Deep in my heaps of '82 Ford info I have the Cougar 2.3 "Alternative Fuel" propane car service manual. Apparently LPG has been used in some 2.3/Fox and 2.3/Ranger setups for a while.

[FoxChassis]

I'm showing approximately 500 2.3 LPG sedans produced at Chicago for '84. It was apparently the last year for that option in the LTD. (None for '85, at Chicago anyway).

[FoxChassis]

Where do you get your production numbers from?

I'm gathering lists of VIN and checking them for "records". Any VINs with records are kept, the rest are discarded. Then I database the VINs and break them down by body code (6th & 7th characters), engine code (8th), year (10th), and assembly plant (11th).

[FoxChassis]

What is engine code "C"?

OK, so apparently there were two 3.8L V6 engine codes in '84, both available in the sedan and wagon.

3 = EFI
C = 2V

That makes five different engines/codes (so far) for the '84 LTD.

[Marz]

I got a VIN verification thing on my old LX (which Marz now owns) and I seem to recall it was built in Lorain, OH.

It has a "G" code.