1 of 6. made my day
of course the heavy duty battery is long since gone
got my marti report
1 of 6. made my day
of course the heavy duty battery is long since gone
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Interesting that Marti Auto says that 18 of the turbo cars came with a transmission other than the 4-speed manual. I am only aware of one manual transmission behind the 2.3T, so that would mean those 18 had an auto, which wasn't supposed to be available behind the turbo engine.
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There must have been two manual transmissions behind the 2.3T on the Pace Car, code '6' which is the bulk of them, and code '5' which were the 18 units. I wouldn't imagine that they put an auto with the 2.3T. Just my deduction.Originally Posted by FoxChassis
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1986 Mustang GT w/T-Tops
79 trans code 5 mystery
Back then, i worked counter at an auto parts store in Detroit. Guy came in for parts.
Oil or something. Said he had the Mustang carb turbo/auto combo. Got to talking.
Was very curious since i had just recently bought mine. Believe it was an '80.
Went outside to watch him pull out into traffic very quickly with it.
Never seen another. Read a few Fairmonts had them too.
code 5? Auto? A Canadian manual trans?
79 carb 2.3 turbo, manual trans code 6, is a BW SR4 RAD-Y.
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mine report says manual borg warner
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Transmission code '5' in '79 is the Tremec 4-speed manual overdrive. That was not behind the 2.3T. That transmission used code '4' starting in '80.
Code '6' is the Borg Warner 4-speed manual.
After going back to the database, I take back what I said about the 18 being an auto. KCoker said he has a code '7' on the VC Label of his 2.3T PC, which is the Hummer 4-speed manual. The other 98 2.3T PCs I have in the database are code '6'.
Last edited by FoxChassis; 10-19-2010 at 10:19 AM.
One of 10 is the figure that stands out to me - one of 10 Turbo Pace Cars to come to Canada, sounds right. Every Pace Car I've ever seen here in Ontario was a V8 - including mine. As far as I know, less than 500 Pace cars made it to Canada, as Canadian ordered units, and you have one of 10. Nice.
Scratch that '7' code on KCoker's VCL. I asked if he could re-check it and he said it's '6'.
If you look at how Marti Auto narrows down the production, you'll see it's done in such a way that every vehicle you get that type of report for will be 1 of 1, or something in that neighborhood (1 of 6 in this case).
its too bad the original 2.3 4 spd and 7.5 diff are all gone. the car now has a 5.0 5spd 8.8
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1991 calipso green vert,
1979 Pace Car # 0076
Where did you get the 1 of 10 figure and the 500 to Canada figure? Just curious.
1986 Mustang GT w/T-Tops
From an article that was written in a Canadian car enthusiast magazine a few years back. I can't recall the exact number, but it was somewhere between 420 to 435 Pace Cars that came to Canada - of the 10,000+ made.
The 1 in 10 estimate is in the neighborhood, but I could be wrong. However, 1 in 36 is closer. All our cars came with Metric speedos - by law, and 1 in 36 is listed in the report. That's not to say a couple of cars could have been shipped to Europe. The real give away is the block heaters and heavy duty batteries, which are essential for Western Canada's notorious cold winters. So I'm thinking somewhere between 1 in 5 to 16 Turbo cars that made it north of the border. Super rare if you can find one.
Me and two other guys I know bought used Pace cars during high school, or just after graduating. All were local Toronto cars, and all were equipped with V8's and 4 speeds. Mine is the only survivor that I know of the three.
Last edited by hemicuda; 11-05-2010 at 10:36 AM.
Metric Speedo - cool stuff, so only 36 Turbo 4 Pace Car's were specifically built for Canada? Why else would you have a Metric Speedo?
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the guy i bought my 2.3 pacecar from swore that it was a factory auto,
and it did have an adapted clutch pedal, but i think someone converted it to automatic in the states before it finally made it to dominican republic, and then here converted to a mazda 5spd crap..
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79 Pacecar 2.3 EFI turbo
80 Capri 5.0
81 Fastback roller
Yes, the metric speedo was definately for export. Where they went, we don't know. The report really says that 36 turbo 4 pace cars had metric speedos. As hemicuda said, some were sent to Canada and some could have been exported somewhere else like Europe. We don't know the exact breakdown of the 36, Marti didn't specify that.
1986 Mustang GT w/T-Tops
Immersion block heaters and heavy duty batteries were not a requirement so some of them could have been ordered without one or both. Not everybody that buys a car, drives it in the Winter.
Can you post images of, or codes from, you VC Label (door sticker) and Buck Tag?
Just received my Marti Report (Deluxe) ...
1 out of 449 with 90 DSO. Doesn't say if it's only Pace Cars or all Mustangs but i guess it's the number of Pace Cars for export (Canadian Pace Cars should have a different DSO don't they ?).
Also says it's one of 1.270 Pace Cars built in Dearborn.
In the features, it list "European Emission System" ... which i guess was basicaly the smog-pump without the cat and maybe some tuning for our (leaded at that time and higher octane) gasoline. Too bad the front license plate bracket listed is long gone.
About ordering/production, it says it was ordered by Ford Motor Company FIGESO in Newark, NJ June, 2nd 1978 ... built on June 27th and released on June 30th, 65 days behind schedule ... doesn't say when it was sold but i have another an original document saying it was on Nov, 5th.
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold) - '79 Hatchback 2.3 (sold
Yes, Ford vehicles sold in Canada had a different DSO (B1 through B8).
That 1 of 1,270 built at Dearborn surely has been pared down from a larger number, e.g. out of the 2,106 5.0L/C4 combos.
If you look at how those production numbers are done, the 2nd line is out of the total on the 1st line, and the 3rd line is out of the total on the 2nd line, and so. The 1 of 449 w/ DSO 90 is surely done that way as well.
Damn. read too fast ... in fact it said it was the 1270th Pace Car built in Dearborn ...
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold
Says exactly :
Your car was one of :
10.478 with this paint code
10.478 with these paint/trim codes
13.556 with these engine/transmission codes
449 ordered from this DSO
10.478 with Indianapolis 500 Replicar
For the 1979 Mustang 3-door Fastback.
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold
That would make more sense, especially considering the unit number (last six of VIN) of your PC.
All of those "1 of ___" numbers are for ALL of '79 Mustangs hatchbacks, not just the PC.
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Yes ... but that's strange because 449 hatchbacks including Pace Cars for export is a really small number, i'd thought there were way more than that.
For exemple just for France, i know for quite sure (press release) only 2.3l Turbo hatchbacks were sold in '79 and there's a number of 400 floating around since years (quite a rational number according to the price this car was usually sold here) ... i don't think we managed to get most of the hatchback production for export, even if it was the last year for the Mustang in our country.
---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold
I don't think that '400' number you've seen is for 2.3T. I would bet it's for 5.0L.
Here's my full Marti Report :
About Ford FIGESO, it wasn't a dealer, FIGESO stands for Ford International General Export Sales Office, that's where almost if not all exports were managed. Now at its address, there's the DOT of New-Jersey, don't know if Ford FIGESO is still there, let alone still exists.
This is where mine was sold Nov, 5th 1979 :
and where it leaved it's first years :
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---===== stop convert to HID, H4 + relays is the way to go =====---'79 Pace Car 5.0 (well 4.2 until better days)
'80 Capri 2.3 (sold
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