I would like to know if the car originally had TRX suspension
I would like to know if the car originally had TRX suspension
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Yes on TRX. A few different ways to tell....
'Wheels - Code' is marked "TX".
'Tires - Michelin' is marked instead of the other brands.
'Tires - Size' is marked "220 55R" (P220/55R390).
Does or did the car have...
front license plate bracket?
tinted glass? (factory, not aftermarket)
light in glovebox, light under hood, and hole in front ashtray for light to shine through?
premium sound system? ("AMP PULL" knob under dash and "Premium Sound System" emblem on dash bezel)
tilt steering wheel?
interval windshield wipers?
Thanks for the info FoxChassis!
I figured it was TRX from what I saw, but couldn't find any confirmation info.
Likely, was a Missouri car which requires two plates, so there are holes in the front bumper.
Does or did the car have...
front license plate bracket?
Is this just the built in tinted Sunvisor, or all the windows? Either way I would say yes they are tinted.tinted glass? (factory, not aftermarket)
Will have to check these tonight. Don't recall.light in glovebox, light under hood, and hole in front ashtray for light to shine through?
Yes to both, there is the "AMP PULL" knob and it does say "Premium Sound System" on the dashpremium sound system? ("AMP PULL" knob under dash and "Premium Sound System" emblem on dash bezel)
Yestilt steering wheel?
[/QUOTE]interval windshield wipers?
Yes
Is there an indicator if the Rear Window Louver was factory? Or was that even an option?
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There were two different tinted glass options; one for just the front windshield and another for all glass. Windshield-only tint was limited production option # 922 ($38.00*) and complete tint was regular production option # 923 ($105.00*). RPO 923 was recommended with A/C and required with T-roof or convertible. Since other Build Sheets have the same 'Glass - Tint' code that yours has ("T"), and they have been confirmed as having complete tint, I'd say your does as well.
"Factory" louvers would have an "LL" (liftgate louvers) code on the beginning of the fourth line of the Buck Tag. (Before "AC" in your case.) Although louvers were still an option in '83 and '84 I haven't yet seen tags from any cars that had this option.
* Prices according to the Mustang Red Book.
Last edited by FoxChassis; 03-18-2010 at 09:38 AM. Reason: added LPO/RPO price source
VIN
1FA = USA, Ford
B = manual seatbelts, no airbags
P = passenger car
28 = Mustang 3-door hatchback
F = 5.0L V8 engine
9 = VIN check digit
D = 1983 model year
F = Dearborn Assembly (DAP)
172271 = 72,271st 1983 Mustang assigned a VIN at DAP
VC Label
Date - 03/83 = March 1983 scheduled build month
Exterior Paint Colors - 24 = Red
DSO - 53 = Kansas City district sales office
Body - 61B = Mustang 3-door hatchback
VR - [blank] = no convertible roof
Mldg- [blank] = not used on '83 GT
Int. Trim - HA = high-back cloth "Sport Performance" seating (H), Black interior color (A)
A/C - 4 = Medium Red tape/GT decal colors
R - 7 = AM/FM radio w/ cassette
S - C = sunroof
Ax - Z = 3.08:1 axle ratio w/ Traction-Lok differential
TR - 2 = T-5 transmission
HH = E0BZ-5310-H front springs
HH = D9BZ-5560-M rear springs
Buck Tag
MUSTANG = model line
172271 = 72,271st 1983 Mustang assigned a VIN at DAP
61B = Mustang 3-door hatchback
F = 5.0L V8 engine
MO = sunroof
045_
24 = Red exterior paint color
DF
ST
AC = factory air conditioner
04
HB = rear defrost
S = cruise
GT = GT model
BR = black rockers
MBW = manual Borg Warner T-5 transmission
03 = hood w/ scoop
V = light group
ELECTRIC
-A = Black interior trim color
NLR
Awesome! Thanks!
No light on ash tray or hood
Light in glove compartment
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The 'Light Group' option included all of those lights. I don't believe they could be ordered individually nor do I believe they were included in other option groups.
The underhood light is very easy to remove from the hood. If the hood was changed that could also be why is MIA.
The light in the front ashtray is visible only through a slot in the metal ashtray. The bulb itself is beneath the console (have to remove the console to see it). The light is hard to see in daylight, and sometimes it's burnt out.
On the Build Sheet, 'Electrical - Light - Light Group' is marked "V". The Buck Tag is also marked "V" at the end of the fifth line.
Okay I will do more digging. I would bet your right on the ash tray its likely burned out.
Thanks again!
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Lazy me relied on memory thinking I didn't remember seeing a light on the hood. Because I didn't want to have to climb over and pull the hood latch! I now see from my own pictures that my memory didn't serve me well! I do have a hood light!
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Just to update. The car has 3.27 gears From what I find that was actually factory for T-5 83's. Is this what you have seen FoxChassis?
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The "Z" code under the AX column of your VC Label, and the "271D" code on row E of your Build Sheet indicates a 3.08:1 gearset and a Traction-Lok differential. I would bet that your axle tag, if it's still there, would indicate the same (3L08 at the beginning of the the second line).
I have data from nine '83 5.0L Mustangs and eight 5.0L Capris, with scheduled build dates ranging from 10/82 to 08/83, and all of them have a "Z" code under the AX column.
The 3/83 printing of the 1983 Ford Car Facts Book says that the standard ratio with the 5.0L/manual was "to become 3.27:1 as a running change" but it doesn't appear that that happened.
Last edited by FoxChassis; 10-05-2010 at 08:34 AM.
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I will check an let you know.
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As you can see the numbers match with what you stated Foxchassis. Problem is the car requires the correct speedometer gear in the T-5 for a 3.27 gear in the rear. I have the receipt from ford for the correct gear. So I have a mystery. I have yet to open the rear and check part numbers.
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It looks to me like the rear has been opened before, perhaps for a change in gearset ratio.
Several other factors dictate what the speedometer driven gear needs to be, i.e. rear gear, speedometer drive gear, and rear tire revs/mile. Besides the possibility of the rear gearset being 3.27:1, do you know for sure that the other two factors (drive gear and tire RPM) are the same as OEM?
The wheels are not currently factory, they are 15x7 Welds. The Speedometer is the FMS 140 Part no E4ZX-17265-C.
How do I check what gear it has?
As stated I have not opened the rear to confirm the actual ring gear. I likely won't do so, as I am in the process of putting the car up for sale. It is possible that someone, even possibly Summit installed gears in the car. Although their Parts guy says the only gears that they installed were 3.73 or 4.10's from the Ranger pickups in the 7.5" rears.
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To figure out the rear gearset ratio, lift and support the rear and count the number of revolutions of the driveshaft for every one full revolution of the tire. The ratio is the number of driveshaft revolutions to the number of tire revolutions.
To figure out the number of teeth on the speedometer drive and driven gears, remove the speedometer cable from the transmission and count the number of teeth on each. The drive gear is on the output shaft of the transmission - it might be easier to figure out the color instead of trying to count the number of teeth - and the driven gear is on the end of the speedometer cable.
The RPM of the tire can be acquired from the tire manufacturer or tire distributor. It can be calculated from the tire specs but it's not exact.
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