1982 Mustang SS - CL Long Island

[83ASC]

I recall a C&D article with a early Capri prototype that mentioned the "Mustang SS" before Ford went with GT but this is the first I've seen.

http://longisland.craigslist.org/car/641464292.html

[bigred15]

It may be just me, but I don't think Ford would be that tacky. Besides, the SS emblem looks like it came from a Chevelle.

[81 pony]

if its real thats cool

[93-331-29PSI]

I know this topic was covered in the past, but IIRC this very car was discussed here before also.

[capriman86]

It was discussed but unfortunately it was in the FYI section which gets purged.
Been for sale for awhile now, and was priced ALOT higher the other few times.

[gregpro50]

I think it was deterimed that due to the production date of the car there is no way that it could have been one of the early ones badged as an SS.

[negusm]

Yeah, the vin on that car is VERY high for it to be a possible "SS" car.

The original thread I think the SS was mentioned in a spring (1981) Capri article.

Ford has a part listing for the SS badges for the Mustang.

The SS cars were rebadged very early on and some dealers supposedly did it on the lot....but again this car is far too late for that.

-Mike

[FoxChassis]

The '82 Mustang SS was a legitimate model. However, the few that actually made it to dealer lots were re-badged as GTs. The '82 GTs that you find with a "GT" sticker on the hatchback liftgate were probably ones that were originally badged as "SS". The SS badge was originally from an '81 Escort application, and was listed in Ford parts as a badge for an '82 Mustang. I bought the last NOS one a couple years ago.

As stated above, this particular GT was far too late in the production run to have been originally badged as an SS. The seller has been trying to sell this car for a few years now, and has been shown to be a scammer in regards to this car actually and originally being badged as an SS.

In other words, it ain't a real one.

[capriman86]

I am going to move this to General BS so we don't lose the thread again.
I have attached the pics for reference incase it comes up again too. ;)

[bigred15]

I stand corrected on my statement then. It still looks to be a Chevy SS badge glued on. I have not seen the Ford SS badge so I don't have anything to go off of. It would be cool to get a pic of the badge for reference.

[75coug]

Yep, it looks exactly like the SS badge that I used to see on an Escort or two back in the old days.

[Desi]

I know this topic was covered in the past, but IIRC this very car was discussed here before also.

VERY discussed... actually, it came up around this time last year, too...

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

So does anyone have any pics of the real cars? Maybe a Ford booklet or some kind of advertisement?

[evlgt85]

So does anyone have any pics of the real cars? Maybe a Ford booklet or some kind of advertisement?

As far as I can remember from previous discussions, the 'SS' name plate didn't get that far. There were pre-production mentions in articles, and even a little model car ( 82 "GT" style) that made it out with 'SS' badges where the 5.0 badge normally goes which I've actually seen in person.

If there's Ford lit out there supporting the SS, it's probably quite rare. But, bits and pieces, like Mick's badge, have shown up from time to time.

[Mazlem]

I remember seeing a pic from the last discussion. I think it was a scan from Car & Driver testing the pre-production '82 GT which showed a barely-visible SS on the dash.

[75coug]

Just for fun, here is an ad for the Escort SS.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h120/edensker/escortss.jpg

And a nice commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6Lx1MRKqg

[eeprete]

I've actually been in contact with the guy on the car, well aware (thanks to Jeff) about the discrepancies. I've tentatively arranged to see it this Sunday, time provided. If anything it will give a good indication of what kind of condition the GT is in.

[evlgt85]

Yeah, the Escort SS made it further than the Mustang.

This is one of those interesting oddities of the Fox era.

eeprete: If you can get more/better pics of the car and of any of the documentation that he has claimed to have over the years (but not provided, as far as I can remember), that would be awesome.

[capriman86]

Mick care to post a pic of your emblem or scan it?
Curious to see one up close

[Mazlem]

I found THIS (http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?t=42270&highlight=1982+mustang) thread referencing I think the FYI thread. It's got part of the VIN anyway showing it to be later than a member's old '82 GT.

[Ed Ward]

However, the few that actually made it to dealer lots were re-badged as GTs. The '82 GTs that you find with a "GT" sticker on the hatchback liftgate were probably ones that were originally badged as "SS".

So tell me how you reached this conclusion? Do you have proof or are you just repeating something you read on the internet somewhere? :rolleyes:

[83ASC]

Here are a few more pics he sent including door tag

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/scumchee/MVC-013Fa.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/scumchee/MVC-008F.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/scumchee/MVC-003F.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/scumchee/MVC-011Fa.jpg

Fixed (I Hope:stupid:)

[evlgt85]

Can't link to Gmail attachments. We'd all have to have your Gmail user name and password to see 'em. ;)

[EVIL8790]

I called about this car well over a year ago,the seller said he had an deposit & was selling it for $2200,if the deal fell through he would contact me,so he never called and the car has been listed serval times since & the price has dropped everytime. I think if I wait 2 more years I can get it for free:roll:

[cobrstang]

I remember seeing a pic from the last discussion. I think it was a scan from Car & Driver testing the pre-production '82 GT which showed a barely-visible SS on the dash.

It is actually in the September 1981 Motor Trend magazine where you can see the SS badge on the dash but no reference to it in the article. There are pics in the www.mustanggt.org (http://www.mustanggt.org) reference gallery but you must be registered to view them.

[evlgt85]

Those look to be the same images from ages ago. It'd be nice if he'd take better pics and not resize them all jaggedy. :/

Just checked our magazine library, just to make sure, and our MT issues only go back to 1983. Drat. I've some other places around here to look, but I'm sure we don't have that issue. Yet.

[FoxChassis]

This car was discussed is GREAT detail at the GT Registry. Go to the 'Production and Originality' forum, page 8. I'm not making this stuff up.

Yes there is Ford literature out there....scans of Mustang badge parts list, that includes the "SS" emblem, early release product info with "Mustang SS" instead of GT.

The guy that owns this car claims to have worked for Ford and claimed to be part of the group responsible for rebadging SSes to GTs way back in the beginning of the '82 model year. He claims to have a "real" SS except he has come up with ZERO credible evidence to back that up. Hell, the bucktag he posted (but will now probably tell you is "lost") had "GT" stamped right on it. Quite the contradiction right there. Bottom line is: he's trying to pass the car off as something it isn't and make lots of money on a ragged-out car while he's at it.

I'll see what I can do about pics of the SS badge. I thought I took some of it and saved them on my PC. No time to look for them right now.

[gregpro50]

Hell, the bucktag he posted (but will now probably tell you is "lost") had "GT" stamped right on it. Quite the contradiction right there. Bottom line is: he's trying to pass the car off as something it isn't and make lots of money on a ragged-out car while he's at it.


LOL !!! Yep, I remember that now.

[Boomer82gt]

OH NO!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

I can't believe this has come around again. This car has 9 lives...LOL

It has been discussed more than enough on the GT registry...

[FoxChassis]

OK, as far as Ford literature goes an 'early' release of the '82 model year Fleet Buyers Guide shows the SS model but no GT model. The 'early' (August '81) US version of the '82 model year dealer showroom brochure shows a GT model but no SS model, as well as all subsequent dealer brochures.

How on Earth does this poser in Long Island have a "real" SS made six months after Ford releases a dealer showroom brochure showing no such model?

The SS badge part number is E1FZ-16098-B and here some pics:

[Blainer]

Mabe the badges were put on by the dealer. There is a special "dealer" "XTR" metal badges that have been put on trucks on the tailgate or box sides.

[FoxChassis]

It came from Dearborn as a GT. Nothing more, nothing less. His Body/Buck Tag was posted. It was stamped "GT".

[TheGreenFox]

GT sounds cooler anyway, I'm glad ford went with GT.

Although; all I've known is GT so of course I'd say that...

[4stangs]

now you guy made me add another car to the wish list of stangs

[Muscle_Cars_Only]

Hell, the bucktag he posted (but will now probably tell you is "lost") had "GT" stamped right on it. Quite the contradiction right there. Bottom line is: he's trying to pass the car off as something it isn't and make lots of money on a ragged-out car while he's at it.

Here's the email he sent me. I asked to see a pic of the buck tag,told him if it had "SS" stamped on it i'd send funds right away.

His Reply:

I am in Nebraska and the car is sitting at my 85 year old moms home in NY. There is no way I can get a photo of the tag. I do not believe it was there. I know where it is supposed to be and I don't recall it being there. They can be reproduced.

Jay


My thoughts:

Funny how it has disappeared!!

Sooooooooo If they can be reproduced why don't I buy any 82 GT and make it an "SS"

This cat is not even close to being legit!!!!!!!!!

[FoxChassis]

He had pictures of the car in a state of disassembly, I believe taken at a shop that was doing some work to it. One picture he had taken clearly showed the Body/Buck Tag in it's original location, still attached to the upper radiator core support. When asked to post the codes from the tag he claimed the shop had removed it and lost it. He then found it and posted a picture of it. It was stamped "GT". I don't think he was aware that the model/trim level was stamped to the tag.

[negusm]

Do we know about when he posted that?

I suppose the way internet way back machine wouldn't help...

[MurPHy]

Do we know about when he posted that?

I suppose the way internet way back machine wouldn't help...

Be careful with that machine! You might turn the dial too much and go back to the Doom and Duke Nukem 3D days! (ah the good ole days).

[FoxChassis]

He posted when he first registered (Dec. '05). Hasn't posted since.

Join Date: 12-02-2005
Last Activity: 12-04-2005 09:28 PM

[85bubblebackboy]

its straight up bull**** and fake in my eyes.

[killrfords]

Well, aside from this dork coming out of nowhere..Has anyone laid legitimate claim to having a mustang SS?

[plstktnkr2]

well just my $.02 but I think the reason ford never came out with the SS is that GM would sue the pants off of FOMOCO for its use due to copyright infringement

[byondevl]

well just my $.02 but I think the reason ford never came out with the SS is that GM would sue the pants off of FOMOCO for its use due to copyright infringement

Really? Ford and plymouth used the RS designator, GTO has been used by mitsubishi as well as Ferrari.