Marti Report for My Cobra

[79mustangcobra]

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I took out some of the VIN for security reasons.

So it looks like there were 16,641 Cobra's built in 1979

[02Z06]

Very Very cool, I sure hope they do 1980 next. Interesting that out of the 300k mustangs they built that year, only 13k were 302/c4s. And I'm surprised how high the cobra package is, but it's nice to have some good solid numbers on them now.

[79mustangcobra]

Very Very cool, I sure hope they do 1980 next. Interesting that out of the 300k mustangs they built that year, only 13k were 302/c4s. And I'm surprised how high the cobra package is, but it's nice to have some good solid numbers on them now.

I had heard it was at 8,000 Cobra's but it is at 16,000 + not that bad. Considering the Pace Car had what 11,000 +

[02Z06]

Well that also takes the survival rate down by half. We thought we had this many cars remaining out of 8000, now we only have this many cars remaining out of 16000... I think it makes them even more rare. The engine/trans thing confuses me though, on another thread MustangMarty (i believe) picked up his '79 decode sheet and it states that his car is one of 6000 with a turbo/4 speed. That must be based on the body style or on some particular option package because there is no way that there were only 6000 turbo/4 cars. Many pace cars were turbo/4s, probably 1/2 of the cobras were turbo/4s, and there were lots of turbo coupes and hatches as well. And only 13k V8/C4 cars sounds low to me too.

[negusm]

You could get the cobra in the notch body style, right? We saw one a while back maybe it was a later car?

Maybe there are more than that number of 1979 cobras if notchbacks could get the cobra package?

-Mike

[79mustangcobra]

You make a valid point. Maybe the Pace Car's are not considered?

[79mustangcobra]

You could get the cobra in the notch body style, right? We saw one a while back maybe it was a later car?

Maybe there are more than that number of 1979 cobras if notchbacks could get the cobra package?

-Mike

Mike, the Cobra was only in hatchback.

[Mustang Marty]

If you look at the statistics portion (the blue area) the last line says " For the 1979 Mustang 3-door sedan". Mine says "2-door". My guess its that there was only 13.5k V8 Autos installed in hatches in 1979; the number does not include the coupes nor the 5.0s with 4spds (makes me want get the info for my 79 5.0 Ghia I had in high school)...

I guess we need some more Marti reports to make some sense out it. Getting ones for the following cars may help:

Pace Car 5.0 & Turbo
Cobra Turbo
Standard Hatch 5.0 and Turbo
Coupe with 5.0
Ghia hatch/notch w/ 5.0 and Turbo

From this, we should see some duplication of engine and transmission numbers along with cobra and pace car numbers and figure out how the stats relate to each other...

[Hissing Cobra]

This is very cool! I will be ordering one and can't wait to see what it says. I no longer have my door sticker because I scraped it off while prepping it for paint.

Also, if there were 16,641 Cobras and 13,556 with the 5.0/C-4 combos, does this mean that there were only 3085 Cobras with the 2.3T/4-speed combo? At the very least, it's now good that we know how many Cobras were produced, which is significantly more than the 7,000 figure that I got from my "Ultimate Mustang" book.

It's cool learning more stuff about these cars as time marches forward!

[79mustangcobra]

This is very cool! I will be ordering one and can't wait to see what it says. I no longer have my door sticker because I scraped it off while prepping it for paint.

Also, if there were 16,641 Cobras and 13,556 with the 5.0/C-4 combos, does this mean that there were only 3085 Cobras with the 2.3T/4-speed combo? At the very least, it's now good that we know how many Cobras were produced, which is significantly more than the 7,000 figure that I got from my "Ultimate Mustang" book.

It's cool learning more stuff about these cars as time marches forward!

Pete that is a good question. We need a Turbo Cobra report. Since all Turbo Cobra's were SROD 4 Speed.

[429bigblock]

These reports seem to be a great well of knowledge! They seem to be able to help clear up alot of the production number questions. maybe someone should make a sticky when we find out how much of each car was produced when more of these reports come in? I'm hoping to get one for christmas for my 80 ghia!

[79mustangcobra]

Another question this raises is the Radio. My buildsheet does not list the Radio either so the AM/FM 8-Track that is in it must have been dealer installed.

[FoxChassis]

Also, if there were 16,641 Cobras and 13,556 with the 5.0/C-4 combos, does this mean that there were only 3085 Cobras with the 2.3T/4-speed combo?
The 5.0L engine was availble with a manual OR an automatic transmisson.

[Mustang Marty]

Also, if there were 16,641 Cobras and 13,556 with the 5.0/C-4 combos, does this mean that there were only 3085 Cobras with the 2.3T/4-speed combo?

It's cool learning more stuff about these cars as time marches forward!

If there were 16k Cobras and 13k came with the 5.0/Auto, that would leave 3k cars split between 5.0/SROD and 2.3T. I would find that very hard to believe since nearly 60% of the Pace Cars came with the 2.3T. I think when it all gets figured out, the Cobra ratio will come close to the Pace Car ratio (2.3T vs 5.0/auto vs 5.0/SROD) Remember, 1979 was the first year under CAFE and Ford was really pushing the turbo.


I think another issue is that the deluxe report only lists 5 different things under the stats section. The first four are the same between this report and my report. 79mustangcobra's last line lists the Cobra package while mine lists TRX Wheels. Both cars came with TRX wheels. I am thinking really hard about getting the Elite report since it give even more breakdown.


Wow, I was just noticing the early order date for 79mustangcobra's car and it sat at the factory for several weeks before being shipped. Anyone know when Job1 for the Fox Mustang was? This could be one of the earliest Cobra's made.

[79mustangcobra]

I know - I have said before it is a real early build Cobra. That is the reason for the non ribbed door panels, brushed aluminum wheel which is an carry over from the 78 Model mustang. The later built Cobra's have the Black Sport Wheel.

[negusm]

Mike, the Cobra was only in hatchback.

Not according to Ford it wasn't:

http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/Literature/DealerOnly/ProductFactBooks/1979_FordProductBook%20015.jpg

That page was also from the revised edition (January 1979). If it wasn't available, I would think that Ford would have yanked it by then.

[negusm]

The 1980 book has the notch cobra removed.

[79mustangcobra]

Not according to Ford it wasn't:

http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/Literature/DealerOnly/ProductFactBooks/1979_FordProductBook%20015.jpg

That page was also from the revised edition (January 1979). If it wasn't available, I would think that Ford would have yanked it by then.

Mike - I have never seen a 79 Cobra Notchback. That has to be a typo, but you never know.

[FoxChassis]

From one page before that one:

Available only on the three-door sedan, ...

http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/Literature/DealerOnly/ProductFactBooks/1979_FordProductBook%20014.jpg

[negusm]

From one page before that one:



http://www.ascmclarencoupe.com/Literature/DealerOnly/ProductFactBooks/1979_FordProductBook%20014.jpg

OK, I see that now. I know we haven't seen any of those but we see very few Cobras to begin with. I know there was a thread a good while back about a Cobra somebody saw at a show that was a notchback. Everybody said it was a faker...but how many times have we seen craziness that shouldn't possibly be true?

I wonder if Marti would be willing to answer some of these oddball questions?

-Mike

[79mustangcobra]

The only Cobra Notch I have seen is a 1/24 scale plastic one I have.

[digitalrailroader]

and Bob Frensly Ford turned into Champion Ford, and its on Briley Parkway in West Nashville, which is near my neck of the woods.

[79mustangcobra]

and Bob Frensly Ford turned into Champion Ford, and its on Briley Parkway in West Nashville, which is near my neck of the woods.

Yeah, I have been there many times! I even bought an Expedition there for my ex-wife.

[79mustangcobra]

I was looking at my door tag and it said 8-14-78 above the door tag. So my question is when they put on the bucktag do they also put on the door tag?

Acording to the Marti report it says 'bucked 8-14-78'

Thanks

[tman1257]

How does one go about ordering one of these reports?

[tman1257]

This is very cool! I will be ordering one and can't wait to see what it says. I no longer have my door sticker because I scraped it off while prepping it for paint.

Also, if there were 16,641 Cobras and 13,556 with the 5.0/C-4 combos, does this mean that there were only 3085 Cobras with the 2.3T/4-speed combo? At the very least, it's now good that we know how many Cobras were produced, which is significantly more than the 7,000 figure that I got from my "Ultimate Mustang" book.

It's cool learning more stuff about these cars as time marches forward!

Could a person order a regular Mustang with the 5.0 or was it specific to the Cobra option?

[FoxChassis]

How does one go about ordering one of these reports?
www.martiauto.com

Then click on the link on the left side that says "Order a Ford Production Report Online Now!"

They're only available for '79 and earlier. If you want one for '80 and later you're going to have to wait until they become available.

[FoxChassis]

Could a person order a regular Mustang with the 5.0 or was it specific to the Cobra option?
The 5.0L engine was optional in the base and Ghia models, both in the two-door notchback and the three-door hatchback, and with the Cobra Option.

But the standard engine with the Cobra Option was the turbocharged 2.3L.

[tman1257]

The 5.0L engine was optional in the base and Ghia models, both in the two-door notchback and the three-door hatchback, and with the Cobra Option.

But the standard engine with the Cobra Option was the turbocharged 2.3L.

I was wondering if that report showed all 5.0 production on it or if that was the 5.0 numbers for the cobra option.

[79mustangcobra]

I was wondering if that report showed all 5.0 production on it or if that was the 5.0 numbers for the cobra option.

That is a good question. We need someone with a Ghia or non Cobra V8's Marti Report to help us figure these out.

Are you going to get a report for your Cobra? It would be nice to see what it says.

Take care

[tman1257]

Im thinking about it. If I do it wouldnt be for a little bit though. Home remodeling has taken alot of my spare cash now.

[79mustangcobra]

Im thinking about it. If I do it wouldnt be for a little bit though. Home remodeling has taken alot of my spare cash now.

I understand!

[FoxChassis]

According to Marti there were 13,556 '79 three-doors sedans (hatchbacks) ordered with the 5.0L/C4 combo. This is where I think some got confused. There were not 13,556 (of the 16,641) Cobra Options ordered with the 5.0/C4.

The report does not indicate how many '79 hatchbacks that were ordered with the Cobra Option with that paint code, or those paint/trim codes, or those engine/transmission codes, or that DSO. It only indicates that it is 1 of 16,641 ordered with the Cobra Option.

[79mustangcobra]

According to Marti there were 13,556 '79 three-doors sedans (hatchbacks) ordered with the 5.0L/C4 combo. This is where I think some got confused. There were not 13,556 (of the 16,641) Cobra Options ordered with the 5.0/C4.

The report does not indicate how many '79 hatchbacks that were ordered with the Cobra Option with that paint code, or those paint/trim codes, or those engine/transmission codes, or that DSO. It only indicates that it is 1 of 16,641 ordered with the Cobra Option.

Good point - Thanks - I hope we will get more reports from other cars. I have the VIN for my parts Turbo Cobra. Maybe I should get one for it to see what they say. I would hate to spend the money on a, sad to say, crushed car but if it helps us out.

[79mustangcobra]

How does one go about ordering one of these reports?

www.martiauto.com

https://secure.alevelhigher.com/martiauto/vinreports.cfm

[79mustangcobra]

Has anyone else got a report lately?

Thanks

[85CapriGS]

Looks like you can get one here.

https://secure.alevelhigher.com/martiauto/vinreports.cfm

[79mustangcobra]

I was reading last night that in 1979 Pontiac made 117,108 Trans Am's

Ford only made 16,641 Mustang Cobra's in 1979.

So there are 100,467 more 79 T/A's out there than 79 Cobras.

Pretty Cool