Oh why must you tempt me so!

[LTDScott]

For sale 1984 Ford LTD LX, loaded with power windows, locks, driver’s seat, climate control, cruise control, CD player, factory lumbar seats, 5.0 V-8, and AOD automatic transmission. These cars are rare and were only made in 1984 & 1985. They came from the factory with all the features of a Mustang GT since it shares the same fox body underpinnings. This car has 5 lug four-wheel disc brakes from a 1988 Lincoln Mark VII LSC. The engine has been replaced with a newer 5.0 from a 1993 Mustang and the car has been converted from CFI fuel injection to multiport fuel injection and the battery was relocated to the trunk to allow room for the induction. It has 3” single exhaust with a 3” catalytic converter and 40 series flow master muffler. The alternator and starter been upgraded to late model high output. The car also has Subframe connectors and upgraded sway bars. It features many new parts including new wheel bearings, rotors, brakes, and master cylinder when the Lincoln brakes where added. The car has 80,000 miles on it and almost every thing works. I have the original owners manual, bill of sale, and most of the parts off the car. I am asking $1,800 or best offer.



Thing looks damn clean in pics, too. But I really don't need another car!

But I would keep this one, not sell it. It looks good enough to be used as a daily driver, but I wouldn't sell my Mazda for it.

I do own a '97 Crown Vic that my dad drives. I wonder how he'd feel about driving an LTD instead? Hmmmm.....

[ltdlx85]

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[LTDScott]

Where is this listed at?

I don't want to say quite yet. Call me selfish, but I'm seriously considering the car and want first crack at it.

If I decide I don't want it, I'll post the source.

[ltdlx85]

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[LTDScott]

Fair enough :) I have no personal interest but someone trying to buy mine might, UNLESS it's on the west coast.

It is on the west coast. You can breathe easier now ;)

[frink84]

can you at least post pics for the curious... come on you're killin us here.

[LTDScott]

http://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd1.jpghttp://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd2.jpg
http://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd3.jpghttp://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd4.jpg

I got more info...

The car has passed smog, but hasn't been to a refree. All the correct equipment is there and functioning. The body does have a couple of dents in rear quarter panels, and one in the hood. The paint is far with some scratches. Everthing works but the winshield washer pump and the cornering lights. It has a few minor leaks. I have included some more pictures to look at. More recently replaced parts on the car are the heater core and struts. The only item that the car needs is tires. If you are interested I do have the wheels and tires off my 95 and the tires have less than 10,000 miles on them. If you want to know more about the car let me know, I think I have a car fax from when I bought it.

[anthonydalrymple]

....all I can say is.....WOW.... If i had the money; I'd be all over it.....

It really looks like someone at one time really put some effort into it & cared....WOW....

[LTDScott]

Couple more...

http://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd5_Medium.sized.jpg
http://www.ltdlx.org/albums/LTDgallery/ltd6_Medium.sized.jpg

My only concern is that it has not visited a smog ref, so it's not CA smog legal. He says he has passed smog with it, but I dunno.

[anthonydalrymple]

Couple more...

My only concern is that it has not visited a smog ref, so it's not CA smog legal. He says he has passed smog with it, but I dunno.

Yeah, I believe him & here's why.... My notch is a 4-banger. Smog tech enters the VIN into the computer that is tied into the DMV data base. Then, the first thing to pop up on the screen? V8(click w\mouse box) & 4cly(click w\mouse box). Of course I have a V8 & thats what he "clicks". What this tells me; there is no correlation between the vin info & the smog test itself. As long as a V8 was optional & it looks factory correct; no alarms will be raised by the tech. Odds are 1 in a million that you will either run into a tech that really knows fox-bodies & "fails you" or the DMV database gets a major upgrade. If in a rare case this happened; you'd get an automatic referee station referral. I think niether will happen anytime soon.....

[Marz]

Couple more...

My only concern is that it has not visited a smog ref, so it's not CA smog legal. He says he has passed smog with it, but I dunno.

Yeah, I believe him & here's why.... My notch is a 4-banger. Smog tech enters the VIN into the computer that is tied into the DMV data base. Then, the first thing to pop up on the screen? V8(click w\mouse box) & 4cly(click w\mouse box). Of course I have a V8 & thats what he "clicks". What this tells me; there is no correlation between the vin info & the smog test itself. As long as a V8 was optional & it looks factory correct; no alarms will be raised by the tech. Odds are 1 in a million that you will either run into a tech that really knows fox-bodies & "fails you" or the DMV database gets a major upgrade. If in a rare case this happened; you'd get an automatic referee station referral. I think niether will happen anytime soon.....

Totally agree... it's like the whole 85 Mustang GT dual exhaust thing. The smog testers totally miss it. The data says it had duals... so it must be fine. :lol:

[LTDScott]

[quote=LTDScott]Yeah, I believe him & here's why.... My notch is a 4-banger. Smog tech enters the VIN into the computer that is tied into the DMV data base. Then, the first thing to pop up on the screen? V8(click w\mouse box) & 4cly(click w\mouse box). Of course I have a V8 & thats what he "clicks". What this tells me; there is no correlation between the vin info & the smog test itself. As long as a V8 was optional & it looks factory correct; no alarms will be raised by the tech. Odds are 1 in a million that you will either run into a tech that really knows fox-bodies & "fails you" or the DMV database gets a major upgrade. If in a rare case this happened; you'd get an automatic referee station referral. I think niether will happen anytime soon.....

I used to do smog checks at the dealer, but I can't remember how this worked.

In the end, it's up to the smog tech to identify what is right or wrong. I agree that a stock looking 5.0 SEFI (which this appears to be) wouldn't look very out of place and may be able to slip by smog, but I'm the first to admit I'm paranoid about this.

[Marz]

[quote=LTDScott]Yeah, I believe him & here's why.... My notch is a 4-banger. Smog tech enters the VIN into the computer that is tied into the DMV data base. Then, the first thing to pop up on the screen? V8(click w\mouse box) & 4cly(click w\mouse box). Of course I have a V8 & thats what he "clicks". What this tells me; there is no correlation between the vin info & the smog test itself. As long as a V8 was optional & it looks factory correct; no alarms will be raised by the tech. Odds are 1 in a million that you will either run into a tech that really knows fox-bodies & "fails you" or the DMV database gets a major upgrade. If in a rare case this happened; you'd get an automatic referee station referral. I think niether will happen anytime soon.....

I used to do smog checks at the dealer, but I can't remember how this worked.

In the end, it's up to the smog tech to identify what is right or wrong. I agree that a stock looking 5.0 SEFI (which this appears to be) wouldn't look very out of place and may be able to slip by smog, but I'm the first to admit I'm paranoid about this.

Well, you can always try and do the "don't ask... don't tell" thing. And if they mention something about it not being original... act suprized.

[anthonydalrymple]

In the end, it's up to the smog tech to identify what is right or wrong. I agree that a stock looking 5.0 SEFI (which this appears to be) wouldn't look very out of place and may be able to slip by smog, but I'm the first to admit I'm paranoid about this.

What's to be parinoid about? So you get sent to a referee station & pay a one time fee of $300(last time I checked). You simply get recertified as another year & model car for future emissions compliance. I'll bet money it blows cleaner out the tailpipe than the "origional" combination & worst case you will have to meet the requirement of a 89 MUstang for future testing.

C'mon man..... We need a guinea pig here..... 8)

[ltdlx85]

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[LTDScott]

Anthony, it's not as simple as you make it out. Trust me, I know:

http://www.ltdlx.org/albums/SVT-LTD/barlabel.jpg

The smog refs go over the car with a fine tooth comb. Took the previous owner of my car three tries to get it through the refs. Among the details they check for are a functional check engine light and no stored or current trouble codes in the computer.

I don't know if the seller has smogged the car in order to sell it (as required by law), but if he has not, I actually have a friend near where the car is located who is a smog tech and will pass it as long as it passes the sniffer.

Oh and ltdlx85, my poor naive friend, the 84 LXs have different grilles, trim, taillights, and badging than the 85s. The only thing I can see that is non-stock is the black painted grille (I did this on my car, it looks better), and the right taillight. I have only ever seen 2 other 84s, and I have not seen a blue one before. Has to be rare.

[ltdlx85]

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[LTDScott]

Still, it's not collectible in my eyes being non original in many ways. I see a few examples though [like your old white one] that would be alright with me though :)

Honestly, I don't think these cars are ever going to be collectible enough to warrant keeping one in bone stock original shape. That's why I don't mind modifying it under the skin while leaving the outside appearance mostly stock. But I'm sure some disagree with me.

[frink84]

and I went and searched 1984 LTD LX images to be certain, go figure.

Still, it's not collectible in my eyes being non original in many ways. I see a few examples though [like your old white one] that would be alright with me though :)

I'm going to sell my LTD LX at some point, no hurry. I'm buying an all original, super nice 78 Cobra that I've been bugging the old guy to sell me. I hope to have it soon.

you missed the non-stock engine and wheels! kills the collector value!

edit: OH and the t-bird steering wheel!

lol not original... its got EFI for hell's sake!

to scott: congrats on finding a good deal, best of luck aquiring this non-collectable completely worthless vehicle :tu: my dad went through similar stuff getting both of our EFI wagons through smog the first time. my dad says they will actually pull a sensor to see if the check engine light comes on. oh and the motor must be at least as new as the car, and emissions must meet the standards of the year of the motor, so all vacuum, fuel return lines, vapor lines, etc. hope this helps.

[ltdlx85]

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[zak]

Seem to vaguely remember that black, white and gray were the only colors for LTD LX, maybe that was just for 85? I had sat with my father and guided him through the selection process at the dealer, but that was for the 1985 modeol year run.

Maybe run the VIN and make sure its got the right letter for engine and FI.

- zak

[LTDScott]

I never said it was non collectible nor worthless.

Don't be an ass and put words in my mouth.

My statement, and I quote:

"It's not anywhere near an original car with all the other mods."

That covers all the other mods clearly seen/identified, that you mentioned.

I don't particularly care for the "resto-mods" but that is my opinion.

You know what they say about opinions, like an @$$#@%*, everyone has one...............some are one :)

I believe that was aimed towards frink, but I honestly think that the changes made on the car in question (and his and mine) are basically "modernizing" what Ford had in mind from the beginning: a touring sedan.

Lots of people do the same thing to Mustang SVOs and rare versions of other Fox bodies, and as long as they stick to the original "theme" of the car, it's okay with me. Converting an LTD LX to an all out drag car for example (there's one on CarDomain) would sort of defeat the purpose of this car, and I don't like that.

Having said that, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to keep your car in bone stock original shape. I applaud people who do that. I just prefer to drive my cars rather than look at them ;)

ZAK: color options for the LX were:

1984
Medium Charcoal Metallic
Silver Metallic
Light Academy Blue Glow

1985
Medium Charcoal Metallic
Black
Oxford White

I have only seen one other blue '84. I have seen multiple of the other colors.

Also, send me a PM with your email address. A guy I know is looking to get in contact with you regarding parts you need.

[anthonydalrymple]

Well Scott.... Darn.... If the referee situation is that tough; I can fully understand your trepidation.....I've heard things were tougher on Orange & San Diego counties...
Good info on the referee station experience. But.... Have you yet made out a thread giving some of us Cali guys a better idea of what kinda hoops we'll have to jump through? What it ended up costing you(or the previous owner) in time & money? If it was done by the previous owner; is it possible to get info from him? I really think it would be "sticky" worthy info!
So far I technically know of only three "illegal" items on my car; one of which I just happened to learn of two days ago..... Adj. fuel pressure regulator( I never knew...), my cam(although supposedly profiled to pass smog & barely bigger than an "E" cam), & my Diablo chip(which is easy to remove). I'll at least find out here within the next 30 days if it will blow clean through the tailpipes; my smog cert. is due. I'll opt for a pre-test of course.... 8) .

[LTDScott]

Oh, and more details on the car:

I The rear tail light isn't original, I think the car was in a small accident at one time and it must have been change then. There is a 2" dent and some scratches in the driver side front fender. The dents in the rear quarter panels happened when rolling the inner fenders the body flexed. The is the a small dent in the driver's door and the hood (I had and aftermarket intake and the TPS hit the hood.

The PS pump has a minor seep, the oil level sendor in the pan seeps, and the pan gasket on the transmission seeps.

The A/C works great and I just replaced the heater core.

I converted the car with the A9L computer and the light is wired correctly to the computer. The engine has about 100,000 miles on it, it the stock motor out of my 95 and the AOD is the original.

The 5.0 is stock, I have a MAC cold air kit on it and Ford Motorsports plug wires. It was had some other parts on it in the past but I removed them to sell it and make it smog legal.

I was waiting to smog it until I had a buyer, but it will be smoged as part of the sale.

It has a temperature gages in the area by the amp switch. I have all the original CFI parts, and the factory ugly steering wheel. The cruise works with T-bird wheel on it now.

It also has welded in subframe connectors, the driveshaft has been rebuilt and balanced. As stated in the listing it has new Mini later model starter and the alternator is off a 98 T-bird.

I know it isn't perfect but I like it and my kids have named it the hooptie. I got hooked by going to a driving school at the local road course and I decided that I needed a mustang to have fun at the track.