SHO V-6 into Fox - Trans adapter progress

[Chuck W]

Well, after months of trying to find time to dial in my adapter.....I finally picked up my lasered version on Fri and took an hour or so to fiddle with it.

For those that don't know, I'm planning to swap an SHO 3.0/3.2 V6 into my '84 XR-7 Cougar. I'm using a 5.0 bellhousing to allow for the better choice of clutches and flywheels. It's more of a long term project, but to avoid any folks calling "BS" I figured I have to make some headway once in a while.

Here's a couple pics.
The adapter plate
http://ustio.com/file_dump/chuck/Misc/Adapter%20plate.jpg

SHO meet T-5
http://ustio.com/file_dump/chuck/Misc/SHO50_1.jpg
http://ustio.com/file_dump/chuck/Misc/SHO50_2.jpg

There's a gap between the bellhousing and the adapter because I need to mill a couple reliefs in the bell for a couple of the bolts that attach to the block. With some minor machine work on the bellhousing I'm actually going to have 3 bolts that go all the way through the bell/adapter to the block, so that makes me happy.

I was concerned initially about the starter clearance, but it appears that I'll be able to use one of the mini-starters and not have to mod the oil pan. I actually have one on the way (thanks ebay ...$27 + S&H for one :D ) I still might need to to clear the K-member, but I'll probably not be using a stock one anyway, but I'll be curious to see how it fits.

The next hurdle is the flywheel. For right now I'm going to mod a 157T 5.0 flywheel and change the crank mounting holes and have it zero-balanced. Of course I just missed a nice cheap one on the 'bay. SO now I'm on the look-out for a 5.0 flywheel and engine plate.

So there you have it....finally progress.

[mfpmax]

BS....




:lol:

Do you have like...a large supply of Pewter spray? Everything you have is pewter!

[Chuck W]

BS....




:lol:

Do you have like...a large supply of Pewter spray? Everything you have is pewter!

It's actually High-Temp Ford Grey ;)

Nah, I just figure I'd clean stuff up and the grey looks better to me than the black.

That trans is actually painted up for another swap (a T-5 behind a 2.9 in my Scorpio :p)

[mutantcapri1979]

great!!!!....but why? i was told you can use a aerostar manual...but then someone said they did not exist...and then i said oh well

[Chuck W]

great!!!!....but why? i was told you can use a aerostar manual...but then someone said they did not exist...and then i said oh well

I'm using a 5.0 bellhousing to allow for the better choice of clutches and flywheels.


....AND transmissions. Not sure why I would want to even consider using an Aerostar trans if I didn't have to.

[nitroracer]

So how many years is it going to be before you run out of fox body projects?

Nice work man, SHO's are screamers.

[LTDScott]

Neat project!

I have personally driven an Aerostar with a manual trans, but I have no idea what engine it had.

[mutantcapri1979]

i thought it was in a old MM & FF that some one had it in a street rod not crappin on the idea that u got evidentlly i must be jealous that i do not have the tooling or the ability to do something so unique

[Chuck W]

i thought it was in a old MM & FF that some one had it in a street rod not crappin on the idea that u got evidentlly

Some folks just don't want to actually do any work.

[silverfive0]

sorry about double posts...??? no clue what happened!!

[silverfive0]

Man, YOU RULE!! I've been kickin that idea around for a couple years for my (get this) 84 T-Bird Turbo Coupe!!! LOL

Just an FYI...that street rod a few years back that had the SHO in it, that guy bought that motor and trans set up from a friend of mine who spent about a week trying to figure out what tranny would fit it by taking the motor to a junkyard and test fitting bell housings to it!! The guy belonged to the SHO club and heard about his set-up and offered him a good chunk of cash for the information so my friend decided his "info" would include the entire combo!!! (for an evene larger chunk of cash!!!) Just a little tid-bit of worthless knowledge for ya!! LOL

Ever consider selling the adaptor plates to the rest of us when its all done?? I have an SHO motor waiting to go into something!! If not, get workin on your car, I wanna see it when its done!! Later, RAY

[Chuck W]

Ever consider selling the adaptor plates to the rest of us when its all done?? I have an SHO motor waiting to go into something!! If not, get workin on your car, I wanna see it when its done!! Later, RAY

I might consider selling the adapter once I know it checks out ok. I'm not just going to foist it someone.

I'll actually have more updates here soon as soon as I can get the pics uploaded. Did the work on the bell and am working on the flywheel.

[rnjstel]

Just to give you a heads up, Ford powertrain did a SHO Powered Ranger in 93.

They used a W/C T-5 but, the Ranger 3.0 Manual bellhousing with the Ranger Hydraulic clutch release.

The upper manifold was turned 180 degrees around.

[Chuck W]

Just to give you a heads up, Ford powertrain did a SHO Powered Ranger in 93.

They used a W/C T-5 but, the Ranger 3.0 Manual bellhousing with the Ranger Hydraulic clutch release.

The upper manifold was turned 180 degrees around.
Yup, I'm aware of the SHO Ranger, but as mentioned, I'm going for a more readily available selection of clutches, etc.

I've already scoped out the flipping of the intake as well.

Aside from the adapter, the only real "custom" part is going to be the flywheel. I know I can get a $400 AL one that would be a bolt-in deal, but that's not part of the budget right now. The mods to a "stock" one are going to run me less than $200 and that will include some cryogenic treatment after it's all said and done.

[Chuck W]

OK..a couple more update pics.

First the bellhousing mods. They primarily consisted of a couple new holes and a couple reliefs for bolt heads. One of the reliefs has a hole as well because I decided I just may use that as a through bolt instead of the initial plan.

http://www.turbochuck.com/images/84XR7/SHOswap/bellmod_1.jpg
http://www.turbochuck.com/images/84XR7/SHOswap/bellmod_2.jpg
http://www.turbochuck.com/images/84XR7/SHOswap/bellmod_3.jpg

Next is the initial mod on the flywheel. I still have to drill out the holes,, but I figured I just leave two and elongate them so they match up with the SHO bolt circle. The mod work on the flywheel might happen next week, and then off to get balanced and surfaced.
http://www.turbochuck.com/images/84XR7/SHOswap/flywheel_1.jpg

That's all for now. I'll get pics after the flywheel machining is done.

[Chuck W]

Well, a quick little update.

The welding/redrilling the flywheel is going to be a no-go. The weld is just too damned hard to drill. We even tried a little heating to try and anneal it and still no dice.

I did contact the folks at SPEC though and I can get a 157T SBF billet flywheel with zero balanced and with no crank pattern machined yet for about $260. That's not too bad really. If I have it cryoed before I install it, I may never have to worry about it again. So I'm going to go that route.

Picked up an engine plate and I'll need to trim out some of that to clear the rear seal housing on the SHO block. Not a biggie.

Also, I checked the mini-starter...and it clears just fine, so no issues there.

So while I'm getting funds together for the flywheel I'll start looking into the pilot bearing situation.

[Chuck W]

Well, a quick little update.

The welding/redrilling the flywheel is going to be a no-go. The weld is just too damned hard to drill. We even tried a little heating to try and anneal it and still no dice.

I did contact the folks at SPEC though and I can get a 157T SBF billet flywheel with zero balanced and with no crank pattern machined yet for about $260. That's not too bad really. If I have it cryoed before I install it, I may never have to worry about it again. So I'm going to go that route.

Picked up an engine plate and I'll need to trim out some of that to clear the rear seal housing on the SHO block. Not a biggie.

Also, I checked the mini-starter...and it clears just fine, so no issues there.

So while I'm getting funds together for the flywheel I'll start looking into the pilot bearing situation.