Cold air intake on an 86 LX

[4eyedfox86]

I know it is a very popular upgrade but what is the best cold air setup for the car. Alot of people say mount the filter in the fender which logically makes more sense than putting a filter in the enigne bay right above the headers. But others say that the 90 degree bend in the tubing will lean out the car due to tuberlance within the pipe. I have mixed feelings and honestly am not looking to get power form this upgrade, more along the lines of better looks than a black tube. I would like to know the pros and cons of each cold air design. Thanks

[frankiesaysrelax]

The one with the filter in the engine bay is a Hot Air Intake. :roll: They are worthless.

But others say that the 90 degree bend in the tubing will lean out the car due to tuberlance within the pipe.

They are idiots beyond the point of help. :roll:

[FATHERFORD]

The one with the filter in the engine bay is a Hot Air Intake. :roll: They are worthless.

But others say that the 90 degree bend in the tubing will lean out the car due to tuberlance within the pipe.

They are idiots beyond the point of help. :roll:

N/A engine that 90 bend doesnt do much harm. Now on a blower/boosted application such as 03 cobras, the bends choke off the air under high boost.

[GT350R]

N/A engine that 90 bend doesnt do much harm. Now on a blower/boosted application such as 03 cobras, the bends choke off the air under high boost.

Even boosted its not an issue as long as its a smooth bend. We are talking about a 3 to 4 inch pipe!

[Zap's 85 GT]

The bend's effects are practically non existant on SD cars.

It primarily affects cars with mass air meter's because the meter gets a skewed reading from the turbulant air coming straight after the bend. Some people even need to "clock" their mass air meters to get them to read more effectively with the elbow pipe.

[FATHERFORD]

N/A engine that 90 bend doesnt do much harm. Now on a blower/boosted application such as 03 cobras, the bends choke off the air under high boost.

Even boosted its not an issue as long as its a smooth bend. We are talking about a 3 to 4 inch pipe!

Talk to the tuners. They will say otherwise. I have also seen this personally on the dyno and at the track.

[Zap's 85 GT]

N/A engine that 90 bend doesnt do much harm. Now on a blower/boosted application such as 03 cobras, the bends choke off the air under high boost.

Even boosted its not an issue as long as its a smooth bend. We are talking about a 3 to 4 inch pipe!

Talk to the tuners. They will say otherwise. I have also seen this personally on the dyno and at the track.

This is a worthless argument. Its not like there is much choice. Its either have bends in the intake pipe, or suck hot air from the engine compartment. There is always the bent right before the throttle body too but nobody's talking about that one.

[twister]

I have seen back to back dyno pulls...a car with a fender mount cold air induction kit got 1 peak hp over a stang with a stock inlet tube, air box, a K&N panel, and had the scilencer removed. Back in 98 at Sema I asked K&N why they did not have a kit, and they also said that the stock set up was a very good design.

[FATHERFORD]

N/A engine that 90 bend doesnt do much harm. Now on a blower/boosted application such as 03 cobras, the bends choke off the air under high boost.

Even boosted its not an issue as long as its a smooth bend. We are talking about a 3 to 4 inch pipe!

Talk to the tuners. They will say otherwise. I have also seen this personally on the dyno and at the track.

This is a worthless argument. Its not like there is much choice. Its either have bends in the intake pipe, or suck hot air from the engine compartment. There is always the bent right before the throttle body too but nobody's talking about that one.


I wasn't arguing, I was simply stating what the tuners are finding out with boosted cars, such as 03 cobras. You can also look at all the turbo charged pro 5.0 cars and see the same thing. Thats why they started to directly mount the turbo's in the bumper. One for the ram air effect, but two to have less restrictions for the air to get into the turbo.

[frankiesaysrelax]

The bend's effects are practically non existant on SD cars.

It primarily affects cars with mass air meter's because the meter gets a skewed reading from the turbulant air coming straight after the bend. Some people even need to "clock" their mass air meters to get them to read more effectively with the elbow pipe.

Actually, the stupid short "Hot Air Intakes" can have their MAFs affected by the turbulant air from the fan blade, which is another reason the short ones are worthless crapola.

The clocking of the meter is important on a Mass Air car, but the original question was about a Speed Density '86, so you can forget about mass air meters right there.

I was going to mention the sharp bend and "accordion" inlet tube on the stock system. Anyone that thinks that the smooth bends of a CAI are going to create more turbulance than the stock system truly are idiots beyond the point of help. :roll: And, as we know, the stock system with a K&N filter minus the air silencer works pretty darn well and doesn't absorb heat like a big metal pipe does. CAIs are purely a dress-up piece in my book. I only have one on my car because it was first of all free and second of all a lot easier to mount than retrofitting a stock airbox into a car that never had one.

[Evil86lx]

These are all of the reason's why I like the Moroso kit.

Honest to God truth Rich V picked up two tenth's in hotter waether with the simple addition of the moroso kit.

If you guy;s are not familiar with it it is for MAF car's only and it only replaces the seection from the airbox to the meter. It's also a plastic kit that is molded in black. Very good looking with out all of the chrome plated crap.

kyle

[twister]

These are all of the reason's why I like the Moroso kit.

Honest to God truth Rich V picked up two tenth's in hotter waether with the simple addition of the moroso kit.

If you guy;s are not familiar with it it is for MAF car's only and it only replaces the seection from the airbox to the meter. It's also a plastic kit that is molded in black. Very good looking with out all of the chrome plated crap.

kyleI was pondering one...or if I do swap to mass air, getting a CAI and painting it with VHT to help keep it cooler

[Evil86lx]

The Moroso kit sell's for under 100 bone's. Rich picked his up at WFC8 for 30 buck's.

I have the same kit that I may be selling once the turbo set up is on the car.

kyle

[twister]

The Moroso kit sell's for under 100 bone's. Rich picked his up at WFC8 for 30 buck's.

I have the same kit that I may be selling once the turbo set up is on the car.

kylelet me know if you do....

[4eyedfox86]

Actually my 86 LX has the mass air conversion on it. And 3.5 inch 90 degree bend runs into a 78mm C&L Mass air meter. The only reason I got the CAI was purely for dress up reasons. The car is far from stock. When I get some pics you can see. I have raced the car, but it is now used as a cruise/show car only. I did get a CAI from UPR and I think it looks really sweet. It's a polished aluminum kit. The heat on the metal was a concern mine, being that aluminum is a good conductor but it seems to be alright, thanks for the help.

[twister]

Actually my 86 LX has the mass air conversion on it. And 3.5 inch 90 degree bend runs into a 78mm C&L Mass air meter. The only reason I got the CAI was purely for dress up reasons. The car is far from stock. When I get some pics you can see. I have raced the car, but it is now used as a cruise/show car only. I did get a CAI from UPR and I think it looks really sweet. It's a polished aluminum kit. The heat on the metal was a concern mine, being that aluminum is a good conductor but it seems to be alright, thanks for the help.um, you want something that does not transfer heat...heating the air in the inlet tube voids out the bennifits of a cold air induction system

[4eyedfox86]

Here's the car with the CAI.
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[frankiesaysrelax]

Sweeeet!!!! :tu: