Oh no no!!!!!

[Slick 5.0]

I was getting the 302 ready to put in my car tomorrow. But the torqe wrench broke the oil pan bolt off in block. Can I fix this ?

[twister]

how much of the bolt is sticking off? is it equal to the block? have you tried an easy-out?

[Slick 5.0]

The head of the bolt is what broke of. I think it may be equal to the block. What is easy-out?

[twister]

heat up the block andsee if you can get it out with a pair of vice grips..an easy out is a tool that usese a reversed thread to grab and twist the bolt out.

[Zap's 85 GT]

If the bolt isnt bound up or bottomed out then it should be easy to remove by spinning it out with a scribe or sharp pick-like instramnt. Unless you have reverse style screw extracting drill bits then I'd save the easy outs for last. I've been known to cut a slot in broken bolts to remove them with a flat blade screwdriver.

[Slick 5.0]

I think if I drop the oil pan down I maybe able to get it out with some vice grips.

[GT350R]

What is easy-out?

An "Easy out" is a device that snaps off instantly in your broken bolt compounding your problems. Broken easy outs require the use of carbide bits to remove or have the whole thing burned out with a process called "EDM".

Ask me how I know................

[795.0pacecar]

I agree with GT350R. I say just drill it out and retap the hole. I have a bolt break off when taking off the motor mounts once and thats what had to be done.

[Zap's 85 GT]

"EDM"

Whats that acronym stand for? I've seen a process called "Spark Erotion" used on a buddys 2.3L turbo exhaust manifold.

[bigblock79]

as long as it ain't the corner bolts don't sweat it. I figured thats why ford put all them stinkin bolts on there for anyhow. you have a 90% chance that it won't leak. Of course there is no guarentee, and this is based on no scientific facts at all.

[Evil86lx]

High quality easy out's wont break. The cheap one's are worhtless and cause more damage than the broken bolt.

Dont trust a chep left handed drill bit either.

If your going to use either one I would recomend spending the money on quality tool's. Snap On, Matco, Mac etc etc.

kyle

[StangBoy]

dont gamble it

drill it and retap it.

[Mike Croke]

"EDM"

Whats that acronym stand for? I've seen a process called "Spark Erotion" used on a buddys 2.3L turbo exhaust manifold.

Electrical Discharge Machining. Reverse welding essentially. You allow the electrical spark/current to erode the workpiece. It's very slow but very accurate and works on hard metals that are difficult to cut with conventional milling/drilling tools. In this case, Wire EDM is used and works like a wire feed welder that continuously erodes/sparks the target area.

The other kind of EDM is sinker. Instead of a constant feed wire, the process uses an electrode usually made of graphite. The graphite electrode is shaped kinda like a rubber stamp and is similar in size. The stamp/electrode erodes an area of the workpiece instead of the "point" from wire EDM.

Full of useless information I am. :D

[GT350R]

Thanks Mike.

Another bit of info to add to that is the messyness of it as one of those (or both?) have to be under water or oil while its being done. Imagine completely disassembling your block and dunking it in water over an easy out.

[MurPHy]

High quality easy out's wont break. The cheap one's are worhtless and cause more damage than the broken bolt.

Dont trust a chep left handed drill bit either.

If your going to use either one I would recomend spending the money on quality tool's. Snap On, Matco, Mac etc etc.

kyle

Err.....Sears Craftsman?

[Seijirou]

My easy out has always been just a small dab of JB weld on the end of a nail and carefully sticking it to what is left of the bolt. Let it set up, and then grab the nail with some plyers or something and turn the stud out. If you mess up or it doesn't work, you have to drill it out. But then again, you have nothing to lose there so I say give it a try.

[Evil86lx]

High quality easy out's wont break. The cheap one's are worhtless and cause more damage than the broken bolt.

Dont trust a chep left handed drill bit either.

If your going to use either one I would recomend spending the money on quality tool's. Snap On, Matco, Mac etc etc.

kyle

Err.....Sears Craftsman?

Nope wont touch them. Their easy out's break. I found out the hard way, several time's before I was finally willing to spend the money on a good set.

kyle

[noslofiveoh]

so how did u actually break the bolt off? isn't the pan bolts only supposed to be torques to like 18 ft.lbs.?

[AaronATX]

oil pan bolts are really easy to break off. I did that to a friends car when "helping" him when I first got started.


He just left it that way and it didnt leak.

[noslofiveoh]

ahh....hopefully ur's will come out easy

[v8only]

lol, he said the book stated 40 pounds, and he couldn't get the needle to move at all. I think he was using it wrong, or it was a major pos, + isn't 40 pounds too much? as stated, 18, give or take sounds right.

so, thomas, what happened, you get it out?? Pictures??!!

[Evil86lx]

It should be alot closer to like 15lb's.

Everyone has broken a bolt or two. Eve the pro's do it from time to time. No big deal.

kyle

[AaronATX]

40 inch/pounds mebbe :)

[anthonydalrymple]

Yeah, very little torque is nessissary. I like the nice OEM style 1piece oil pan gaskets myself. A little tougher to install the timing chain cover; but torque only needs to be 10-15 lbs.... I just use a 1\4" rachet, 6" extension, 7/16" socket, & torque as tight as i can with one hand. Haven't broken a bolt yet. (knock on wood;) )

[Evan]

alot of times the tourgue wrench is a bad thing, its good tool for breaking bolts. when the wrong tourgue is used

i only tourge critcal bolts. main journals , rods, head bolts etc.

most everything else is done with the calibrated arm or hand depending on the bolt.



one way to get that broken bolt out that i dont think anyone has mentioned is to weld a nut to it then use wrench to get it out, JB weld inside the nut may also work

welding nuts to bolts works especialy well on cast iron or aluminum parts. the weld will not penetrate the material, just the bolt.


good luck


Evan

[Slick 5.0]

Will I look at it today. It look's it all has to come a part. The bolt broke off equal to the block. So that mean's that I have to drill it and retap it. This time I'm, going to see if the engine is good to use. I have a job now so maybe I can do some more thing's to it.

[50 Proof]

n/m

[Slick 5.0]

It is fix. All that is lift is to put the engine back in.

[svo85]

Err.....Sears Craftsman?

90% of Craftsman stuff is pretty good but some things just absolutely have to come from a high end tool dealer. Easy outs are one of them. (line wrenches are another, but that's a different story!)