new here and need some advice.....

[84 turbo cat]

hello all,

I have been searching the forums on this board but didnt want to join until i had a four eye of my own again. I have recently aquired and will be picking up in january an 84 capri rs 4cyl turbo car. the car has no engine or trans right now which is where my question comes in.

Just to get the car running and driveable I want to put in a regular 4 banger and was wonder if their are certain model years i should be looking for or if any 4 will work from any mustang/capri from 79/93 the car is also set up for stick which means i will be getting a manual trans for it as well. I am also going to be rebuilding a 4 cyl turbo motor to drop in while i am driving it in its regular 4 cyl form. please advise with any input you may have as it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nick

[moelll]

welcome to FEP first of all and to answer your question, instead of putting a normal 2.3, you can put a 2.3T from a Turbocoupe from a junk yard. as for the tranny, all of the trannies can fit as long as everything matches and you have the proper hardware.

[Marz]

I'd deffinetly look for a Thunderbird Turbo coupe for a replacement turbo 4.

Same for the trani.

[v8only]

if you're looking for a beater four, I think pretty much all years will work, right around 86/87 the 2.3 got the fuel injection (mustangs) so keep that in mind

[svo85]

Absolutely! If you are going to pick up an N/A motor, you might as well pick up the turbo engine. Any 2.3T from a turbo coupe, SVO, XR4TI will work and are fairly plentiful in the yards still. Let us know if you run into any snags, there are a few of us that have busted a knuckle or two on 2.3's on this board.! Oh, and if you're already going to do the engine, pick up a T-5 from any of the same cars. preferred is the 87 88 T-bird turbo coupes as they have the best setup (and SVO's in yards are a little scarce!)

Last but not least! Welcome!

[svo85]

if you're looking for a beater four, I think pretty much all years will work, right around 86/87 the 2.3 got the fuel injection (mustangs) so keep that in mind

The 2.3 turbo went efi in 83-84 (83-84 GT Turbo, 84-86 SVO, 84 and up Turbo Coupes were all EFI)

[84 turbo cat]

thanks for all the input guys. I will try and keep you posted of my progress in finding the motor. whatever i put in it at first depends on the yard around here but there are quite a few big ones so i have my fingers crossed for a good turbo motor right off the bat. I will also post some pics so that you can see my diamond in the rough as soon as I get her home in mid january hopefully.


thanks again,

Nick

[Evil86lx]

Absolutely! If you are going to pick up an N/A motor, you might as well pick up the turbo engine. Any 2.3T from a turbo coupe, SVO, XR4TI will work and are fairly plentiful in the yards still. Let us know if you run into any snags, there are a few of us that have busted a knuckle or two on 2.3's on this board.! Oh, and if you're already going to do the engine, pick up a T-5 from any of the same cars. preferred is the 87 88 T-bird turbo coupes as they have the best setup (and SVO's in yards are a little scarce!)

Last but not least! Welcome!

Get a turbo motor and tran's from a 84-86 T-bird. It would be correct for your car.


kyle

[84 turbo cat]

OK, I sat down last night and created a shopping list of stuff that i am going to need for my capri project. tell me what you think.

1. motor and trans probably out of a turbo coupe hopefully this shouldn't be too difficult to find.
2. computer probably out of the same car engine and trans comes from or which one is the best? i have heard the 87/88 tc's had the best computers?
3. wire harness. can i get this out of the tc also or does it need to come from a mustang/capri? if so which years can i get this from?
4. probably need to do the brakes and get some 10 holes which should be fairly easy
5. I know the car doesnt have a heator core right now. I dont really want a/c so which years can i pull the heater from in order to have heat in the car, and if i get a motor that has a/c on it is there a delete for the 2.3 like there is for the 5.0? or can i just remove the ac and run a non ac belt?

Let me know your thoughts and opinions, i am open to all suggestions.

Thanks,
Nick

[Evil86lx]

If it was me I would snag a motor/tran's/ecu/wiring from a 84-86 T-bird and get the car running correctly and safe.

Then I would shoot over to www.turboford.org or see a couple of thread's over here about modifying the 2.3t.

Start simple and do all of the basic's first. Get the car running good, looking good, and safe to drive.

And then mod the crap out of it. :D You can make the 2.3t run harder than a lightly modded 5.0 for less cash. And I'm going to tell you their is nothing better than giving Vett''s, modular's, and 5.0 a ass whooping with a 4cyl stang/capri.

My SVO draw's more attention than any other car I have owned at the local cruise's and car show's. People like to see different thing's and well a RS turbo is definetly different and hella cool.

I'm just wondering but are you aware of just how rare 83-84 Turbo RS's are?

kyle

[84 turbo cat]

Yes i am very aware of how rare they are that is why when i saw this one i had to have it. something like 1320 made in 84 and this one is a hardtop but i am not sure exactly what the numbers were on how many hardtop's there were. My first car was a 81 capri v8 and i loved it and hated getting rid of it when the time came. I was 17 at the time and an older gentleman mustang fanatic bought it from me for i think it was something like $400 bucks. I have owned numerous mustangs since then but was never able to get my hands on another 4 eye until now. the reason why i have so many questions is because i have never dealt with the 2.3t before. I have seen it all pretty much with the 5.0 and felt it was time to try something different which is why instead of dropping an 8 into the car i want to do the turbo and surprise some people. I have also been researching these for a while and have found quite a few very helpfull pieces of information both here and at turboford.

Nick

[84 turbo cat]

Evil,

I will definately be taking your advice though and look for the 84-86 t/c before settling on anything else, but i do have to run with what i can find as far as the yards around here. I do also have some family in wisconsin looking for me and my little brother is off of school this week and I have him running around in the yards looking to see if there is anything there that i can use, otherwise there is alwaysthe bay and these sites that i can use but i will have to have the parts shipped to me which i want to try to avoid.

[84 turbo cat]

just posted some pics of the capri as it sits as of 12/20/04. you might have seen it before.....this is the car that nosbaby was selling on turboford.

Nick

pics are in the 83-86 capri album on page 11

[J. Alden]

Welcome Nick

What town are you in? I'm in Palatine, probably not to far from you.

J.

[84 turbo cat]

hi J,

your right, not too far, im in villa park.

Nick

[Evil86lx]

just posted some pics of the capri as it sits as of 12/20/04. you might have seen it before.....this is the car that nosbaby was selling on turboford.

Nick

pics are in the 83-86 capri album on page 11

SWEET!! You saved the turboford capri RS. 8O Thats way cool...

Yeah if you need any help feel free to ask question's. Their are a couple of us turboforder's on FEP.

kyle

[evlgt85]

HOORAY!!! Another 84 Turbo RS safe!!!!!! Thank you for picking it up and making it a project.

[84 turbo cat]

when i saw the pics of that car i just had to find out if he still had it. I actually sent him money on it today to hold it for me and im giving him the rest when i pick it up in january some time. Thats also why im looking for the advice and parts now because i wanna get started on her as soon as i get her in the garage. she looks to be in pretty good shape just some assmbly required which shouldnt't be too dificult provided i can find the parts i need without too much of a hassle.

Nick

[negusm]

Excellent. A rare Capri saved.

-Mike

[83rsturbo]

thats great news another rs turbo goog luck finding a motor. glade your not slapping a 5.0 in it

[84 turbo cat]

thats great news another rs turbo goog luck finding a motor. glade your not slapping a 5.0 in it


Yeah i know, these things are few and far between but hopefully with some patience, the internet and family in 3 different states which are all car nuts im sure ill find something..

Thanks

Nick

[moelll]

am i the only advocate of putting a turbo or two onto a 5.0? it'll be sick! :D

[Evil86lx]

am i the only advocate of putting a turbo or two onto a 5.0? it'll be sick! :D

I'm in the middle of building a single turbo car righ now! where you been man.

kyle

[moelll]

am i the only advocate of putting a turbo or two onto a 5.0? it'll be sick! :D

I'm in the middle of building a single turbo car righ now! where you been man.

kyle


in my garage..... in Mars....

[84 turbo cat]

made some interesting progress last night but i'm not sure about. Can any of you tell me if you can bolt up a manual trans to a 2.3t that was originally mated with an auto? I found a motor but it is from an 87 t/c auto car. I also have a buddy that has a full v8 t5 transmission with clutch and everything else to go with it, would this bolt up to the motor?



Nick

[83rsturbo]

yes you can but with a v8 trans i think you have to change the imput shaft
also don't forget the shaft bushing

[Asha'man]

You wouldn't be able to use the 5.0 clutch assembly, just the tranny if you get the right pilot bearing.

Brian

[84 turbo cat]

ok then i guess the 5.0 trans is pretty much out of the question, i would rather have the correctt trans any way. does anyone know if a manual trans will fit up to an engine that had an auto bolted to it though? also I was looking around some more and found a prts car that should have everything i need, only thing is its an 87. so naturally i have some questions. will the set up from the 87 just bolt into the capri or will i have to change some stuff? I am pretty sure i will need a different exhaust but a friend of mine is telling me the accessory drive on the motor might need to be changed around because it is out of a t/c?? can anyone either validate that or shoot some holes in it for me. If this was just an easy swap then i might just have to go and get this car before i bring the capri home so that i can get what i need out of it. Oh and dont worry im not just gonna strip a car just cause, from what the guy says it was in a pretty bad accident and isnt worth fixing so he is selling it for parts.

thanks again,

Nick

[Evil86lx]

The T/C will have a serp belt set up, your car should have a V belt set up. You can run the serp belt if you want to.

The motor itself will be the same but it will have the wrong turbo. The down pipe will be a little different.

I think a 87/88 Tbird is an excellent donor car. The Tbird has the faster ecu, bigger squirter's etc etc.

The Tbird made 190hp with that little ihi turbo and it's intercooled. Your car made 145hp and is non intercooled. Using the 87/88 Tbird is going to put you three step's closer to turboford bliss.

Your going to want to use the tbird ecu, exhaust manifold, squirter's, ACT sesnsor, motor. I would also use the Tbird brake's, they are 4 wheel disc brake's and you can use the bigger front brake's also.

If the car is complete that is a very nice score and it has alot of part's that you want. The wheel's will even fit.

kyle

[84 turbo cat]

that sounds great, now i am just waiting for the guys response then. will I have to change the accessory drive on the motor though to make it fit? my buddy is a ford master tech and is telling me i would but for some reason i am agreeing to disagree with him. i also found another car to get parts from in a salvage yard up in green bay WI. 85 turbo coupe but its an auto i think, but we take em where we can get em right.

Nick

[Evil86lx]

Alot of people have converted over to the Serpbelt setup. I didnt on my SVO because I'm lazy and I may want to put it back to stock one of these day's.

You should do a search here at FEP. Skye started a really good thread on 2.3t performance part's. If I remember correctly that thread reached 3-4 page's and has a lot of good info.

Let me see if I can dig up a few pic's of my 84 gt turbo.

kyle