Parts list for a low 13sec 86 gt

[StangBoy]

Ive seen a couple ppl on here running 12's on a stock bottom end.

The 86 im getting in a week or so is an aod that is starting to slip. that is going to be swapped out for a t5 and the appropriate parts. I have a set of e7 heads that i am going to port/gasket match as well as a 87-93 intake that is going to be smoothed/gasket matched.

i know the pistons will have to be flycut for a bigger cam. what else will get me there?

[cobraman1994]

gears (try the 3.90's out)
drag radials
headers (long tubes if you can deal with the smog issue)
some sort of clutch (i like my spec stage 1, it should hold for my application of 400 to the ground)
pulleys
off road exhaust and your muffler of choice
sub frame connectors

and if you want, the crower 1511 cam (i think thats the number, but its called the "speed density" cam) with 1.7 roller rockers on those heads. if it was me, i would swap those heads for some gt40's.

the best thing you can do for good times is skill though. skill will get you better times then any mod out there, so practice away! ;)

[StangBoy]

gears (try the 3.90's out)
drag radials
headers (long tubes if you can deal with the smog issue)
some sort of clutch (i like my spec stage 1, it should hold for my application of 400 to the ground)
pulleys
off road exhaust and your muffler of choice
sub frame connectors

and if you want, the crower 1511 cam (i think thats the number, but its called the "speed density" cam) with 1.7 roller rockers on those heads. if it was me, i would swap those heads for some gt40's.

the best thing you can do for good times is skill though. skill will get you better times then any mod out there, so practice away! ;)im hoping the ported e7 heads will work for now, as i cant do both the 5sp swap and the heads. im definately putting a good clutch in it as i dont want to have to do it again ;) it has a full exhaust already except for headers which will be swapped out for some bbk/mac shorties. gears will be this summer but since the back tires are shot, what are some good 15inch drag radials?

[Evil86lx]

Well here are my combo's. Now remember that I am 6100ft above sea level so subtract a full second from my ET's.

86 LX= 306, ported E7's, stock cam, A/C and smog delete, MAF, 24's, performer intake, 70mm throttle body, bbk header's, summit off road H pipe, flowmaster cat back, 190 fuel pump, and 3.55's.
The car whent 14.2 at 96 which correct's to 13.0's and 276rwhp. 60ft's where right around 1.9s with worn out drag radial's.

86 GT AOD car(when in Rich V's possesion)= Cobra intake, bbk header's, flowmaster cat back, 100hp shot of N2O, otherwise stock as can be. 14.0's at 100mph. I dont have any correction factor's for this car. But I would expect low 13's and possibly mid 12's with slick's, gear's and a good working AOD.

85 SVO= 17psi, K/N cone filter, 3 inch exhaust, LA3, 35's, 255 fuel pump, unknown cam(prob a ranger roller). The car whent 15.1 at 92 mph with 2.0 60ft's. Correct's to 227 rwhp and 14.0's.

My plan's for the 86 GT are... ported E7's, all of the bolt on's from the lx, T-5 swap, 355'sm and the same NOS kit jetted at 100hp. I'm hoping for mid 13's out of it up here. I have a single turbo kit from PTK that I still need to install. I want to get the brake's/suspension worked out before I bolt it on.
I'm hoping for high 12's with the turbo and no NOS.

kyle

[50 Proof]

theres a long thread on the corral for a stock 12 second combination...

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=184378&highlight=stock

[BetterDays]

Well here are my combo's. Now remember that I am 6100ft above sea level so subtract a full second from my ET's.


excuses, excuses.... :lol:

I can't comment here since my car is carb'd.

Carb, Intake, and Cam (2.73 gears) brought to 13.84 @101.6... 2.2 60'

With gears, I would be low 13's.. high 12's......

[Evil86lx]

Well here are my combo's. Now remember that I am 6100ft above sea level so subtract a full second from my ET's.


excuses, excuses.... :lol:

I can't comment here since my car is carb'd.

Carb, Intake, and Cam (2.73 gears) brought to 13.84 @101.6... 2.2 60'

With gears, I would be low 13's.. high 12's......

Blah blah blah... :D

I love it when people come up here to do some racing. They alway's think their something wrong with their car's. "Man my car ran mid 12's in texas but I could only sqeeze a 13.9 out of it. Their must be some thing wrong with my car"..

Nope nothing wrong with the car.. Just something wrong with the amount of oxygen molecule's at 6k feet...

Everyone around here is running some sort of power adder.

kyle

[cobraman1994]

or a junkyard twin turbo application would do. and be different the any other mustang in your town probably :D

[Evil86lx]

Yep... Turbo's rock and boost is addicting.

I have a really good hook up on sinlge/twin turbo set up's. I have been helping a good friend of mine get his business started.

If anyone is interested let me know.

kyle

[cobraman1994]

can he sell seperate parts? i still need the turbo and intercooler. T04e series...for now... :twisted:

[Evil86lx]

Yep.. You want me to PM you his #.

kyle

[cobraman1994]

yes please, or does he have a site? i wont be buying ANYTHING for my car until christmas is over. ive spent enough on my car for the time being. if he is ready in january, im down. who here thinks i can hit 10's ?

heres the set up:

bone stock long block
performer rpm intake manifold
70mm throttle body
80mm maf
36lbs injectors
single hair dryer kit (To4 62-1, pro charger FMIC, Tial billet BOV, Tial 36m waste gate bla bla bla)
full fuel system (sumped tank, braided lines, SX 1600 hp pump, cartech rails, 36lbs injectors, aeromotive boost afpr)
spec stage 1 clutch
steeda adjustable clutch kit
stock t5 with kirban shifter (shut up, it was free)
3.55 with aburn posi
drag radials

so far all that is installed is the stock engine and tranny. my daily driver's engine had a seized oil pump shaft, and that did a nice number on the internals. the cost of the repair was 2 times the amount of the car's worth. hahahaha

so, untill i get another daily, the poopstang is in daily driver form as i put the finishing touches on the interior. (roll bar and painting black)

also, i have coilovers, sub frame connectors, and a 5 lug conversion to install. next year should be a fun one. ill be all done by march

[Evil86lx]

http://www.pperformance6.com/

Their you go. If you talk to Scott make sure you tell him that Kyle sent you to him.

You could also just post up some question's here http://www.stampedeusa.com/

That combo sounds pretty good to me!

kyle

[BRUNO]

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[Evil86lx]

OK..

kyle

[RichV]

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Why did you edit that, it was such an "eye-opening" post.

[Evil86lx]

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Why did you edit that, it was such an "eye-opening" post.

LOL.......

Hey the SVO is back together. You going to be around today?

kyle

[BRUNO]

Because the problem may have been resolved person to person.
We'll see.

[Capri50]

who here thinks i can hit 10's ?

heres the set up:

bone stock long block


you might goe 10's a few times before you split the block or scatter the stock internals. I get a kick out when people on the corral say they 'have a safe tune'. There is no such thing on a stock block @ 450+ RWHP.

If your going to keep making that kind of power, and keep it to some level of reliable, consider a better block. at a minimum, a mexican 302 block, a motorsport B50, or if your lucky find a deal on an A4 block at a swap meet.

I know every message board has the 1 person that's been running 10's forever and ever with a stock block and no problem. Even if it's true, those instances are far and few between.

A quick search for 'cracked block' on the corral will provide countless hours of reading on how to turn a stock 5.0 v8 into two 2.5 4 cylinder motors.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=579533&highlight=cracked+block


http://www.capri50.com/temp/crackedblock.jpg

[BRUNO]

Thats true, but tuning does help. This season at the oval track we race at a guy that pits a few spots down from us did that to a Dart block(chevy), tuned out the carb had a small leak between the baseplate and the mainbody. It started to melt a piston and once the balance went away, it ripped the block apart right above the mains. That being said, any little problem or tuning issue can turn into a major disaster in high horsepower engines.

But I have heard from many people that 450 rwhp is about the breaking point on a stock block. Granted some people go a while with no issues, but I imagine their on borrowed time. My friends 95 GT threw the crank out the bottom of two stock blocks. He never had it on the dyno but it had twisted wedge heads, cobra upper & lower, trick flow stage 1 cam, 36lbs'ers and a T trim at 15psi.

[Capri50]

that motor from the link popped at 10.8:1 AFR. Balancing helps quite a bit. Once the harmonics are out just a bit, and then amplified by decent power, the risk increases for the above.

The thing I never understood is why people stuff 2 grand worth of rotating assembly parts into a stock block, when you risk wrecking these parts.

[frankiesaysrelax]

:roll: How did a auestion about how to get into the 13s develop into a discussion of whether a stock block can handle 450 rwhp. 8O

[cobraman1994]

mine will be able to take it untill i can save up for a dart/r combo. but i dont have that budget for the time being. i dont race the hell out of cars, and i wont build 15+ psi just driving around. so it will last.
but i know it wont last forever, however it will hold up for a while

lets get back on topic of a low 13 second combos :D

[StangBoy]

must be my threads, can we plz stay on topic? i have some rice to smoke this summer :D

[QTRMILE]

Thats true, but tuning does help.

Well, not really. Only if you tune it down to where its not making power. Cylinder pressure is cylinder pressure. Granted, nitrous builds it a whole lot faster than turbos, so its more "violent" and tends to break **** more often, but the fact is when you start making power you are going to start breaking stock parts.

Which is why I went to 351s a decade ago. There weren't many options us normal guys could afford. Now I'm to the point I need an aftermarket 351 block, lol :?

[Capri50]

sorry, I thought cobraman was the original poster. When he wrote 'think I can hit 10's', then 'stock block', that's where it came from.

it is still good info for the overly ambitious stock blown owner.

[4no mor]

Its pretty easy to get low 13's high 12's.

I use a stock 90 short block, stock p heads with springs, tfs stage 1 cam stock pushrods and rockers, weiand stealth intake 650 demon carb and 1-3/4" long tubes with an offroad x, 5spd and 4.10 gears. My best run has been 12.66@103. My best 60' was 1.697 on slicks...

[StangBoy]

it needs to be drivable on the highway so i think 3.73s will be the highest i can go?

[4no mor]

I drive mine on the highway, 2 hours one way to the drag strip. With the 4.10's and 5spd I turn 26-2700 rpm @ 70-75mph.